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Smurf-Herder
01-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Among Democrats, Calls To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- Some Capitol Hill Democrats want President Barack Obama to extend tax cuts for wealthy Americans now scheduled to expire at the end of 2010, arguing that a tax increase could hinder economic recovery.

"I think there is a certain logic to leaving well-enough alone for now, given the fragility of the economic recovery," said Rep. Gerry Connolly (D., Va.). " It's a question of prudent judgment and timing."

White House officials are preparing to unveil their 10-year budget plan on Feb. 2, which will include a decision on what to do about the pending expiration of tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush.

Asked in recent days about the tax cuts for the wealthy, administration officials have insisted that Obama won't propose extending the tax cuts for the wealthy.

"That's not something we have contemplated, and I don't think that's a necessary act," Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said in an interview with CNBC last week.

Obama during the campaign and in last year's budget plan proposed extending Bush tax cuts affecting the poor and middle class. He proposed letting the top two tax rates, now 33% and 35%, return to 36% and 39.6% respectively, in 2011.

This year, the top rate will apply to income above $373,650 for individuals and married couples. Under Obama's plan, the 36%, second-highest rate would kick in at $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for married couples.

Obama also proposed bumping the 15% rate on capital gains and dividends up to 20% for those with income in excess of $200,000, or $250,000 for married couples.

"The president's always said that tax cuts just for those people making more than a quarter million dollars a year--something like 2% of people--that those ought to expire when they were scheduled to expire, but...he has called for extending all the rest of the tax cuts," Austan Goolsbee, a member of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, said Monday on PBS.

However, some Democratic strategists looking toward midterm elections see peril in heading into November with looming tax increases on the horizon. Tax increases may be a potent issue for Republican opponents as Democrats defend majorities in the House and Senate.

Rep. Harry Mitchell (D., Ariz.), a second-term congressman who held on to his seat in 2008 with 53% of the vote, wrote Obama last week asking him to extend the lower capital gains and dividend rate, and estate tax rates.

"Given the unique economic difficulties we face as a nation, this is the wrong time to raise these taxes. We need to retain these tax cuts that encourage investment that stimulates growth and job creation," Mitchell wrote.

Connolly said the decision on whether or not to extend the tax cuts should be weighed against the impact of doing so on the deficit. But "re-instilling confidence in the economy" should be paramount, he said.

Their view, while gaining clout, remains in the minority among congressional Democrats. Rep. Jim McDermott (D., Wash.), a member of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, dismissed the argument that allowing taxes on investment to rise now would slow the recovery.

"There's no proof that the Bush tax cuts had anything but a negative effect," said McDermott.

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Revere
01-23-2010, 10:45 AM
The deficit has everything to do with tumbling tax revenues caused by shutting down economic activity and growth by kneecapping private enterprise.

The producer class is sitting on their hands not knowing when government will punish them next.

Pat
01-23-2010, 11:20 AM
First sentence,
Some Capitol Hill Democrats want President Barack Obama to extend tax cuts for wealthy Americans now scheduled to expire at the end of 2010, arguing that a tax increase could hinder economic recovery.
Funny, I thought those tax cuts applied to almost every American, and I know that they applied to middle class incomes.

Smurf-Herder
01-23-2010, 11:26 AM
First sentence,

Funny, I thought those tax cuts applied to almost every American, and I know that they applied to middle class incomes.

They're talking about everybody making over $200,000. Obama said he's keeping the lower bracket cuts in place - supposedly.

But, at $200,000 you're talking about working professionals, like a married couple who are working professionals, or small business owners filing as an S Corp. It still comes down to upper middle class having less money to put back into the economy; either through consumer purchases, or hiring new workers - which in turn have more money to put back into the economy.

Pat
01-23-2010, 11:32 AM
They're talking about everybody making over $200,000. Obama said he's keeping the lower bracket cuts in place - supposedly.

But, at $200,000 you're talking about working professionals, like a married couple who are working professionals, or small business owners filing as an S Corp. It still comes down to upper middle class having less money to put back into the economy; either through consumer purchases, or hiring new workers - which in turn have more money to put back into the economy.
Those 2003 tax cuts are all part of the same bill, middle class, poor and rich all rolled into one bill.
I suspect that if they expire, they will expire for everybody.
Although, a congresscritters salary is just barely under $200k.
We'll see.

Smurf-Herder
01-23-2010, 11:37 AM
Those 2003 tax cuts are all part of the same bill, middle class, poor and rich all rolled into one bill.
I suspect that if they expire, they will expire for everybody.
Although, a congresscritters salary is just barely under $200k.
We'll see.

According to the article above, only the top two brackets will be affected. Although, this is the first time I heard that part. And you never know what DC will come out with next.

Pat
01-23-2010, 11:40 AM
According to the article above, only the top two brackets will be affected. Although, this is the first time I heard that part. And you never know what DC will come out with next.
They could write it an exclusion I suppose.
Set a top limit or create a new tax bracket.

CommonCents
01-23-2010, 05:45 PM
If they allow any of the Bush tax cuts to expire, it will have a profoundly negative effect on our already struggling economy. Mark my words.

Pat
01-23-2010, 05:47 PM
If they allow any of the Bush tax cuts to expire, it will have a profoundly negative effect on our already struggling economy. Mark my words.
Fixed it for you.

If they allow any of the 2003 tax cuts to expire, it will have a profoundly negative effect on our already struggling economy. Mark my words.

CommonCents
01-23-2010, 05:54 PM
Fixed it for you.

That works. Thx

Pat
01-23-2010, 05:55 PM
That works. Thx
I'm only here to help.

















































And cause trouble.

steamedheat
01-23-2010, 06:03 PM
Among Democrats, Calls To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

No taxation without equal representation

Pat
01-23-2010, 06:05 PM
No taxation without equal representation
Fixed it for you to,
No taxation without representation

CommonCents
01-23-2010, 06:24 PM
Fixed it for you to,

I think that's the way he meant it Pat.

Being he's a socialist, rewriting American history is the only chance in hell they have of getting people to buy into their crap, so they can destroy this country.

steamedheat
01-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Fixed it for you to,

I wasn't quoting James Otis. And I am thinking taxation should be equally applied to all Americans, including the rich & poor.

I oppose any Federal taxation & the IRS, but then that would be a socialist rewriting capitalist history.

Pat
01-23-2010, 07:00 PM
I wasn't quoting James Otis. And I am thinking taxation should be equally applied to all Americans, including the rich & poor.

I oppose any Federal taxation & the IRS, but then that would be a socialist rewriting capitalist history.


Were you not speaking about representation in the previous post?
Looked like that to me.