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Frankg
01-15-2010, 06:24 PM
If you don't belong to a union than you should be outraged.

The labor unions hemmed and hawd about the Cadallic Tax which basically taxes your insurance provider 40% for plans worth 8500 or more per individual and 23000 for families.

After a closed door meeting today obama has now exempted union members from this tax for another 8 years.

I don't belong to a union but the union workers where work make six figures already, not only do I blame obama but it just prooves how labor unions even though at one time served the american worker are now a big part of the reason for economic crisis .

Time to throw the bum out.
Unions will dodge O's health tax
By CARL CAMPANILE
Last Updated: 10:55 AM, January 15, 2010
Posted: 2:49 AM, January 15, 2010

Big Labor got some big love from President Obama and congressional Democrats yesterday after they agreed to exempt union workers from the whopping “Cadillac tax” on high-cost health-care plans until 2018.

The sweetheart deal, hammered out behind closed doors, will save union employees at least $60 billion over the years involved, while others won't be as lucky -- they'll have to cough up almost $90 billion.

The 40 percent excise tax on what have come to be called "Cadillac" health-care plans would exempt collective-bargaining contracts covering government employees and other union members until Jan. 1, 2018.


In another major concession to labor, the value of dental and vision plans would be exempt from the tax even after the deal expires in eight years, negotiators said.

Under the plan to help fund health-care reform, the tax would kick in for plans valued at $8,900 or more for individuals and $24,000 or more for families.

That's slightly higher than the $8,500 and $23,000 thresholds in the bill passed by the Senate last month.

The threshold will be even higher for certain plans with many older workers and women -- a move to benefit unions with a high proportion of female membership, sources said.

New York labor leaders -- who had initially campaigned against the Cadillac tax, favoring instead a surcharge on the wealthy -- said they are thrilled.

"We can live with it. We have an agreement that nothing will be taxed until 2018," crowed George Boncoraglio, regional president of the Civil Service Employees Association.

Officials said the deal was thrashed out over more than 15 hours of negotiating at the White House that ended after midnight Wednesday.
Powerful unions were well-represented around the bargaining table.

Participants included AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and Andy Stern, head of Service Employees International Union; Anna Burger, head of Change to Win; and the leaders of unions representing teachers, government workers, food and commercial workers, and electricians.

Stern has been among the most frequent visitors to the White House over the last year, showing up more than 20 times, according to logs.

Originally, the Cadillac tax included in the Senate bill was estimated to raise $149 billion through 2019.

But Trumka said the exemption would reduce that amount by $60 billion -- money that negotiators will now have to find elsewhere, or reduce the coverage in the legislation.

Boncoraglio said CSEA leaders were meeting in Albany -- preparing to wage a major offensive against the tax -- when their Washington lobbyist called and briefed them on the changes.

Obama backs the Cadillac excise tax, citing economists who say it would drive down costs by encouraging insurance companies to offer employers and workers a chance to buy lower-cost health plans to avoid the levy.


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MintJulep
01-15-2010, 06:54 PM
Gee, you don't say?

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Pat
01-15-2010, 07:55 PM
The sweetheart deal, hammered out behind closed doors...
Ahh yes, transparency.

Participants included AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and Andy Stern, head of Service Employees International Union; Anna Burger, head of Change to Win; and the leaders of unions representing teachers, government workers, food and commercial workers, and electricians.
Big surprise. Do you think the cadillac health insurance the congress gets will be taxed? (Rhetorical question, we all know the answer to that is a big fat NO!)

Obama backs the Cadillac excise tax, citing economists who say it would drive down costs by encouraging insurance companies to offer employers and workers a chance to buy lower-cost health plans to avoid the levy.
In other words, the government wants you to have the amount of health insurance they think you need, not the amount you think you need.

Now, since this bill is supposedly about health care, why all the focus on health insurance? (Another rhetorical question, we all know it's about more government control see the above quote.)

Boogie man
01-15-2010, 08:16 PM
The bribes are being done right out in the open and the liberals act like it's business as usual. This administration and congress will go down in history as the most corrupt since the 60s.

doctordog
01-15-2010, 10:14 PM
The bribes are being done right out in the open and the liberals act like it's business as usual. This administration and congress will go down in history as the most corrupt since the 60s.

That is what happens when you elect a friend of Bill Ayers that is part of the Chicago political machine.

CommonCents
01-15-2010, 10:47 PM
I can sum up this latest episode of democratic corruption in 5 words:

"...And The Band Played On."

Boogie man
01-16-2010, 10:48 AM
The American people are getting a good look at the left and it's pretty ugly. That's why the left keeps demonizing and mocking Palin. She represents decency and traditional American values. Their very angry. Nothing is working and the people are turning against them. Now everyone can see just how fucking awful nasty they really are.

Frankg
01-16-2010, 03:34 PM
Judging by the responses to this thread I have to assume that the liberals here feel its ok to give the labor unions a pass while the rest of us foot the bill.

Boogie man
01-16-2010, 06:42 PM
Looks like the Amish are exempt also. Isn't that against the supposed line between church and state?