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Bill
07-31-2007, 02:00 AM
A very interesting video - and I've followed this topic myself in debating abortion.

"If abortion is made illegal, what punishment should be given to women who have an abortion?".

Except, I always add this question - "If abortion is made illegal, and a woman has an abortion with the knowledge of the man who provided the semen, what punishment should be given to the man?".

That one always seems to add an interesting new dimension to the debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T95avZoqlhE

Bill
07-31-2007, 03:07 AM
Hah! MSNBC is clued in to this video and this topic...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20010696/site/newsweek/

"A new public-policy group called the National Institute for Reproductive Health wants to take this contradiction and make it the centerpiece of a national conversation, along with a slogan that stops people in their tracks: how much time should she do? If the Supreme Court decides abortion is not protected by a constitutional guarantee of privacy, the issue will revert to the states. If it goes to the states, some, perhaps many, will ban abortion. If abortion is made a crime, then surely the woman who has one is a criminal. But, boy, do the doctrinaire suddenly turn squirrelly at the prospect of throwing women in jail.

"They never connect the dots," says Jill June, president of Planned Parenthood of Greater Iowa. But her organization urged voters to do just that in the last gubernatorial election, in which the Republican contender believed abortion should be illegal even in cases of rape and incest. "We wanted him to tell the women of Iowa exactly how much time he expected them to serve in jail if they had an abortion," June recalled. Chet Culver, the Democrat who unabashedly favors legal abortion, won that race, proving that choice can be a winning issue if you force people to stop evading the hard facts. "How have we come this far in the debate and been oblivious to the logical ramifications of making abortion illegal?" June says."

LadyMod at scam.com
07-31-2007, 09:15 AM
The woman and man both should be sterilized?

LM

kres24GT
07-31-2007, 10:30 AM
Death penalty?

The abortion debate should be based on whether or not you consider a fetus to be a live person with rights or not. This in between crap just doesn't cut it. If a woman is murdered and her fetus dies it shouldn't be murder if abortion is not. If abortion is murder, the life of the mother, rape or incest should not be taken into account.

Either its alive or tis not.

To me, it's pile of cells up until the moment it pops out, if vacuuming it out means one less kid on welfare, I am all for it. If we the taxpayers are going to continue to foot the bill for a lot of these kids we should be demanding abortions.

Moby
07-31-2007, 11:43 AM
Most conceptions end in miscarriage within a few minutes/hours without the woman even knowing that she was pregnant. Now, what happens if a sexually active married woman has a glass of wine after having sex and it's later found that the sperm entered the egg but and then died (which is what happens 90% of the time a sperm enters an egg). Is she guilty of man slaughter?

What if she's fat? What if she exercises too much? What if she drinks diet sodas? What if she smokes? All of these things can make her womb less hospitable and if life is created at the moment the sperm enters the egg then couldn't she be guilty of man slaughter for not taking better care of her womb?

Of course we could always make women wear black robes and keep their faces covered. That's worked very well in other countries where they seem to have very few abortions.

I don't believe in late term abortions. At 8.5 months there is clearly life but I don't think it happens at 8.5 minutes. Some where in that time frame things change but I don't know exactly when.

Linkster
08-01-2007, 11:51 AM
If the law is written as they normally are, both the man and woman would both be liable as murderers - of course that assumes that society will again decide that the man should have some input into controlling a womans body

LadyMod at scam.com
08-01-2007, 04:42 PM
of course that assumes that society will again decide that the man should have some input into controlling a womans body

And let us fervently hope that, THAT never happens.

LM

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Linkster
08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
And let us fervently hope that, THAT never happens.

LM

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Unfortunately while its a great hope it has already happened - seems to have started around 300 AD and just keeps getting worse - although at least women get to vote now so maybe they will band together and get rid of these pansy congressmen whore-lovers in Wash DC and get some common sense back in the laws :)

Betty Blowtorch
08-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Any woman who has an abortion should be strapped into a chair
and forced to watch 500 hours of reruns of Jim and Tammy Faye
Bakker, the 700 Club and Jimmy Swaggart.

I realize it's a harsh punishment http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8444/swaggartcryingsu4.jpg
but it'll teach those sluts to keep their legs together. Right, Jimmy?

LadyMod at scam.com
08-02-2007, 11:46 PM
Any woman who has an abortion should be strapped into a chair
and forced to watch 500 hours of reruns of Jim and Tammy Faye
Bakker, the 700 Club and Jimmy Swaggart.

I realize it's a harsh punishment http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8444/swaggartcryingsu4.jpg
but it'll teach those sluts to keep their legs together. Right, Jimmy?

That is Cruel and Unusual punishment. :lmao2:

Betty Blowtorch
08-03-2007, 02:39 AM
That is Cruel and Unusual punishment. :lmao2:
If that punishment is too cruel, how about this:

If a woman gets caught having an abortion,
we should slap her with a 10-dollar fine,
give her a handful of condoms,

and send her on her merry way. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2435/14mj9.gif