View Full Version : The White House To Give 100 Billion Of U.S. Money To Poor Countries "Go Obama" Yes!!!
ILoveObama
12-17-2009, 05:26 PM
COPENHAGEN -- The United States is prepared to join other rich countries in raising $100 billion in yearly climate financing for poor countries by 2020, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced Thursday at the Copenhagen talks.
The U.S. declaration could give a boost to the deadlocked climate talks in the Danish capital, which have faltered over disputes between rich and developing countries on greenhouse gas emission cuts and aid to poor countries most affected by climate change.
Mrs. Clinton, however, said any U.S. funds were contingent on world leaders reaching a broader climate pact at the U.N. talks in Copenhagen. Negotiations have stalled amid disputes between rich and poor countries -- and between the two biggest carbon polluters, the United States and China.
Mrs. Clinton said any deal would have to include a system for ensuring that pledges to cut carbon emissions are fulfilled -- a demand that China staunchly opposes because it says its climate targets are voluntary. A similar demand was made by Japan when it announced Wednesday that it would provide $15 billion in public and private money by 2012 for developing countries.
"If there is not even a commitment to pursue transparency, that's kind of a deal-breaker for us," Mrs. Clinton told reporters.
"There has to be a commit to transparency. We have said it consistently," she said. "There is backing away from transparency. That, to us, undermines the whole effort."
Mrs. Clinton said the long-term climate financing of $100 billion would come "from a wide variety of sources" and would be focused mainly on forestry and adaptation "for the poorest and most vulnerable among us."
She urged all sides to seek common ground in the final stretch of negotiations.
"I understand that the talks have been difficult," she said, "and we will continue doing all that we can do, but the time is at hand for all countries to find common ground."
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, meanwhile, said the United States must offer deeper emission cuts and stressed the urgency of reaching a concrete climate agreement in Copenhagen.
"I believe this Copenhagen conference is the primary touchstone for whether we will succeed in setting a new path of global development, of sustainability," Mrs. Merkel told lawmakers in Berlin before heading off to Copenhagen.
Mrs. Merkel called on all industrialized nations to make deeper emission cuts, but particularly singled out the United States.
"I have to be honest, an offer by the United States to cut only 4 percent from 1990 levels is not ambitious enough," Mrs. Merkel said.
The European Union has pledged a 20 percent emissions cut that could increase to a 30 percent cut if other developed nations also make far-reaching pledges.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/17/clinton-us-ready-join-100b-climate-aid-fund/?feat=home_headlines
JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 06:05 PM
What do you think the poor countries are gonna do with that money- buy windmills?
ILoveObama
12-17-2009, 07:05 PM
What do you think the poor countries are gonna do with that money- buy windmills?
I dont care as long as they get it. They deservve it!!!
JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 07:17 PM
I dont care as long as they get it. They deservve it!!!
Undoubtedly- much of the left would agree with this nonsense.
MintJulep
12-17-2009, 07:37 PM
Absolutely insane.
CosmicRocker
12-17-2009, 08:23 PM
Absolutely insane.
what really is insane is we'll be borrowing money from China to pay them, because they are considered an undeveloped country.
JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 08:52 PM
what really is insane is we'll be borrowing money from China to pay them, because they are considered an undeveloped country.
And the spending spree continues...
foxbaron
12-17-2009, 09:56 PM
I dont care as long as they get it. They deservve it!!!
Hopefully they will pull the money out of your ass because I have none left.
Zebulon0351
12-17-2009, 11:24 PM
Hopefully they will pull the money out of your ass because I have none left.
Well that's your fault. You should carry your weight just like everyone else. Why would you want someone else to pay your share of the money? Its not our fault you didn't make responsible financial decisions that put you next to broke.
doctordog
12-17-2009, 11:39 PM
Well that's your fault. You should carry your weight just like everyone else. Why would you want someone else to pay your share of the money? Its not our fault you didn't make responsible financial decisions that put you next to broke.
Posted by the guy that smokes pot and will someday instruct minors how to as well.:disbelief:
foxbaron
12-18-2009, 10:16 AM
Well that's your fault. You should carry your weight just like everyone else. Why would you want someone else to pay your share of the money? Its not our fault you didn't make responsible financial decisions that put you next to broke.
And your leaders are making sound financial decisions????????????????
Zebulon0351
12-18-2009, 11:11 AM
And your leaders are making sound financial decisions????????????????
It doesn't matter if they are or not. If I remember correctly, it was shitty financial decisions that led us to this mess in the first place. If you didn't make sound financial decisions it is all on you. Shit.. that's the argument you use against health care isn't it? That's the argument you use about the mortgage crisis. Why should it be any different when dealing with your own piss-poor financial decisions?
Don't make an argument when the exact same argument could be said about you. You'll be called out about it every single time.
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 12:28 PM
It doesn't matter if they are or not. If I remember correctly, it was shitty financial decisions that led us to this mess in the first place. If you didn't make sound financial decisions it is all on you. Shit.. that's the argument you use against health care isn't it? That's the argument you use about the mortgage crisis. Why should it be any different when dealing with your own piss-poor financial decisions?
Don't make an argument when the exact same argument could be said about you. You'll be called out about it every single time.
Who argues against health care? Are you capable of posting anything that is even remotely accurate? Lay off that bong, Zebulon. You have fried your brain.
Socialist_Revolution
12-18-2009, 12:35 PM
Who argues against health care? Are you capable of posting anything that is even remotely accurate? Lay off that bong, Zebulon. You have fried your brain.
Are you serious!!?? Just about EVERYONE on the right INCLUDING people on this board like Minty who are against ANY change to the current status qou and liberals like myself who feel the currents bill(s) running through congress don't do nearly enough.
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 12:58 PM
Are you serious!!?? Just about EVERYONE on the right INCLUDING people on this board like Minty who are against ANY change to the current status qou and liberals like myself who feel the currents bill(s) running through congress don't do nearly enough.
That means you argue against health care? Where did you lefties learn your critical thinking skills?
Socialist_Revolution
12-18-2009, 01:03 PM
That means you argue against health care? Where did you lefties learn your critical thinking skills?
hey caption genious I am FOR healthcare reform that actually does something to help lower costs and make it MORE affordable and acessible but dont like the current bill that DOES NOTHING but give freebies to the insurance industry and big pharma...selling out what the American people want for the interest of further lining the pockets of Congress and the Insurance industry.
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 01:09 PM
hey caption genious I am FOR healthcare reform that actually does something to help lower costs and make it MORE affordable and acessible but dont like the current bill that DOES NOTHING but give freebies to the insurance industry and big pharma...selling out what the American people want for the interest of further lining the pockets of Congress and the Insurance industry.
before you sarcastically refer to me as genius- you might want to rethink your language. Noone has argued against healthcare. We are all for health care. What is discussed is access to healthcare by reforming.....health insurance.....genius.
Zebulon0351
12-18-2009, 03:28 PM
Who argues against health care? Are you capable of posting anything that is even remotely accurate? Lay off that bong, Zebulon. You have fried your brain.
The next time I hear of any of you making an argument relating to "poor financial decisions" made by individuals I will always point out Foxbaron's current situation and his hypocritical statement he made as a result.
I'll keep smoking out of my bong JJ, if that is all you have on me then I must be doing pretty good.
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 03:40 PM
The next time I hear of any of you making an argument relating to "poor financial decisions" made by individuals I will always point out Foxbaron's current situation and his hypocritical statement he made as a result.
I'll keep smoking out of my bong JJ, if that is all you have on me then I must be doing pretty good.
Foxbarron made no such hypocritical statement. His statement referred to the idiocy of spending money we do not have, and the effects of the high taxation that our current spending spree will mandate.
I don't know if you are doing "pretty good" or not. But your embrace of your bong explains a great deal, such as your statement anyone has argued against health care.
Zebulon0351
12-18-2009, 04:04 PM
Foxbarron made no such hypocritical statement. His statement referred to the idiocy of spending money we do not have, and the effects of the high taxation that our current spending spree will mandate.
I don't know if you are doing "pretty good" or not. But your embrace of your bong explains a great deal, such as your statement anyone has argued against health care.
You gotta bring up the bong again..
Resort to insults when you can't make a logical argument. Good job. :hi:
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 04:12 PM
You gotta bring up the bong again..
Resort to insults when you can't make a logical argument. Good job. :hi:
You stated the following;"If you didn't make sound financial decisions it is all on you. Shit.. that's the argument you use against health care isn't it?"
I am merely pointing out that perhaps it is your inebriation that leads to such ridiculous statements, as nobody has argued against health care. The fact is, logical, reasoned thought tends to be impaired by drug use, and my associating your irrational and unreasoned posts with your professed drug use is entirely logical.
Zebulon0351
12-18-2009, 04:47 PM
You stated the following;"If you didn't make sound financial decisions it is all on you. Shit.. that's the argument you use against health care isn't it?"
I am merely pointing out that perhaps it is your inebriation that leads to such ridiculous statements, as nobody has argued against health care. The fact is, logical, reasoned thought tends to be impaired by drug use, and my associating your irrational and unreasoned posts with your professed drug use is entirely logical.
Not if foxbarron still expects other people to put up his share. Suck on that for a while.
MintJulep
12-18-2009, 04:59 PM
Not if foxbarron still expects other people to put up his share. Suck on that for a while.Foxbaron never said he expects anyone to pick up anything. You're taking one harmless statement and twisting it. Time for another hit off the old bong. :D
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 05:00 PM
Not if foxbarron still expects other people to put up his share. Suck on that for a while.
The effects of intoxication extend to all aspects of one's thoughts, Zebulon. Nothing Foxbaron has stated has anything to do with your statement that "that's the argument you guys make against health care". Clearly, you are incapable of making the simple distinction between arguments against healthcare- which do not exist- and arguments against health insurance reform. I can only guess that, once again, your confusion is at least in part caused by your bong hits.
Zebulon0351
12-18-2009, 05:17 PM
Foxbaron never said he expects anyone to pick up anything. You're taking one harmless statement and twisting it. Time for another hit off the old bong. :D
Ok Bitch.. reread his statement and tell me what it says then.
It sounds to me he wants somebody else to pay his way because he doesn't have any money left.
Pretty simple if you ask me.
Binky
12-18-2009, 05:24 PM
COPENHAGEN -- The United States is prepared to join other rich countries in raising $100 billion in yearly climate financing for poor countries by 2020, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced Thursday at the Copenhagen talks.
The U.S. declaration could give a boost to the deadlocked climate talks in the Danish capital, which have faltered over disputes between rich and developing countries on greenhouse gas emission cuts and aid to poor countries most affected by climate change.
Mrs. Clinton, however, said any U.S. funds were contingent on world leaders reaching a broader climate pact at the U.N. talks in Copenhagen. Negotiations have stalled amid disputes between rich and poor countries -- and between the two biggest carbon polluters, the United States and China.
Mrs. Clinton said any deal would have to include a system for ensuring that pledges to cut carbon emissions are fulfilled -- a demand that China staunchly opposes because it says its climate targets are voluntary. A similar demand was made by Japan when it announced Wednesday that it would provide $15 billion in public and private money by 2012 for developing countries.
"If there is not even a commitment to pursue transparency, that's kind of a deal-breaker for us," Mrs. Clinton told reporters.
"There has to be a commit to transparency. We have said it consistently," she said. "There is backing away from transparency. That, to us, undermines the whole effort."
Mrs. Clinton said the long-term climate financing of $100 billion would come "from a wide variety of sources" and would be focused mainly on forestry and adaptation "for the poorest and most vulnerable among us."
She urged all sides to seek common ground in the final stretch of negotiations.
"I understand that the talks have been difficult," she said, "and we will continue doing all that we can do, but the time is at hand for all countries to find common ground."
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, meanwhile, said the United States must offer deeper emission cuts and stressed the urgency of reaching a concrete climate agreement in Copenhagen.
"I believe this Copenhagen conference is the primary touchstone for whether we will succeed in setting a new path of global development, of sustainability," Mrs. Merkel told lawmakers in Berlin before heading off to Copenhagen.
Mrs. Merkel called on all industrialized nations to make deeper emission cuts, but particularly singled out the United States.
"I have to be honest, an offer by the United States to cut only 4 percent from 1990 levels is not ambitious enough," Mrs. Merkel said.
The European Union has pledged a 20 percent emissions cut that could increase to a 30 percent cut if other developed nations also make far-reaching pledges.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/17/clinton-us-ready-join-100b-climate-aid-fund/?feat=home_headlines
And what do we think we're going to do to "fix" the climate and keep it from warming? Stop it altogether?:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 05:26 PM
Ok Bitch.. reread his statement and tell me what it says then.
It sounds to me he wants somebody else to pay his way because he doesn't have any money left.
Pretty simple if you ask me.
who has argued against health care again????:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
Zebulon0351
12-18-2009, 05:38 PM
who has argued against health care again????:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
Health Care reform. You can argue semantics all you want.. it doesn't change anything.
MintJulep
12-18-2009, 05:42 PM
Ok Bitch.. reread his statement and tell me what it says then.
It sounds to me he wants somebody else to pay his way because he doesn't have any money left.
Pretty simple if you ask me.Look terrorist lover, if you think THIS means he wants someone else to 'pay his way', you are stoned out of your gord again.
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=160901&postcount=8
JJGlanton
12-18-2009, 05:58 PM
Health Care reform. You can argue semantics all you want.. it doesn't change anything.
I am not arguing semantics. I am giving you the benefit of your posts. You stated that "you guys argue against health care". Which is bullshit.
And seriously Zebulon- all that dope is makin you...well.....dopey. The issue at hand isn't health care reform. It is not the practice of medicine that we seek to reform. It is access to health care- through insurance. Do not confuse your misapprehension of the health care industry and the health insurance industry as semantics. It suits your belief that conservatives are selfish by claiming that we "argue against health care"- which is, of course, wildly inaccurate. You are probably a reasonably intelligent person- at least a point or two above borderline retarded, so I am left to excuse your idiocy, which you support with idiocy, due to the bong tokes you rip....:lmao2:
I dont care as long as they get it. They deservve it!!!
Why? :confused:
And your leaders are making sound financial decisions????????????????
It doesn't matter if they are or not. If I remember correctly, it was shitty financial decisions that led us to this mess in the first place. If you didn't make sound financial decisions it is all on you. Shit.. that's the argument you use against health care isn't it? That's the argument you use about the mortgage crisis. Why should it be any different when dealing with your own piss-poor financial decisions?
Don't make an argument when the exact same argument could be said about you. You'll be called out about it every single time.
"It doesn't matter if they are or not"
Because 2 wrongs do make a right (In bizzaro liberal land).
It doesn't matter anymore, we are liberals, we will do as many wrongs as we want to prove our point.
Is that what you meant?
Sure sounds like it.
Health Care reform. You can argue semantics all you want.. it doesn't change anything.
Care to show us what part of the current congresscritter "health care reform" is actually dealing with health care and what part is dealing with insurance reform?
Compare and contrast it, see what you come up with.
There ain't much "health care" in the bills.
Lou_Dobbs
12-18-2009, 11:55 PM
America is in such great shape it would be insane not to hand out 100 billion.
Share that wealth!
foxbaron
12-19-2009, 01:10 AM
Not if foxbarron still expects other people to put up his share. Suck on that for a while.
What exactly did I do that has you so pissed off at me?
Pay my way for what?
Should I not be more concerned for my own family first?
Times are tough for a lot of people. Folks don't have a lot of extra cash hanging around to give away so you feel better.
Your leaders have this country turned upside down. Nobody knows what is going to happen next so everyone is holding things close at the moment because they are afraid to spend like they did in the past. That is hurting a lot of businesses and causing many of them to go under because of a lack of cash flow. Add onto that the fact that the banks aren't making loans to busineses like they used to and we have a real serious financial crisis going on right here in River City.
Not everyone is a financial guru like you.
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