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Smurf-Herder
12-16-2009, 10:16 PM
2-Stage solid fuel. Far, faster, more accurate, with virtually no warning time on launch. It's a first-strike weapon, designed to threaten Europe. They don't need these for Israel. They have over 500 Shahab Missiles that can reach Israel, along with anything Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas want to throw in. These missiles are meant for Europe.

Iran Tests New Version of Missile that Can Reach Europe, Israel

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Iranian state media reported Wednesday that Tehran successfully test-fired an enhanced version of a solid-fuel medium-range missile, as U.S. and Western powers prepare to push for new economic sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program.

Iran said it fired an "optimized" version of its Sajjil-2, a medium-range missile capable of hitting Israel, according to Iranian media.

Tehran first tested the weapon in May, claiming it marked a significant milestone in its missile-technology efforts. In May, Iran said the Sajjil-2 had a range of 2,000 kilometers, or about 1,200 miles. That would make it capable of reaching Israel and the Black Sea coast of European Union members Romania and Bulgaria, though that isn't different than range capabilities claimed in previous missile launches.

Iran said, however, the missile was more sophisticated than earlier models, and propelled by a solid-fuel system, which would make it easier to deploy than liquid-fuel missiles.

Iran's state media reported Wednesday the updated version is faster, harder to shoot down and quicker to launch.

Brig. Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, Iran's defense minister, said in comments to state media the new weapon was defensive in nature. "Iran's missile capabilities are strictly defensive and at the service of regional peace and stability," Gen. Vahidi said. "They will never be [used] against any country."

Iran has a history of conducting war games and unveiling what is says are military innovations during times of international pressure.

President Barack Obama has given an end-of-year deadline for progress in talks with Iran over its alleged nuclear ambitions. Washington and other capitals have ratcheted up threats of fresh sanctions as that deadline approaches.

The White House said Wednesday's test would increase the international community's resolve. "There's no doubt that, given this environment, missile tests do nothing but undermine the Iranian claims" that its nuclear program has peaceful aims, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters.

In October, the U.S., France, Russia and the International Atomic Energy Agency hammered out a tentative deal to exchange uranium with Iran. The pact envisioned Iran shipping out the bulk of its low-enriched uranium. Russia would further enrich it before sending it back to Iran for use in a medical research reactor.

But Iran never agreed to the deal. Over the weekend, Iran's foreign minister offered Tehran's clearest counterproposal: to swap a limited amount of its own low-enriched fuel for higher-enriched uranium on the Iranian island of Kish. Western officials dismissed the offer.

The U.S. has threatened to unveil fresh, unilateral sanctions if it can't get broader support for United Nations-backed measures.

In response to the missile test Wednesday, Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Silvan Shalom said there was no need for the U.S. and Europe to wait for a decision in the U.N. Security Council to impose sanctions on Iran, according to Israeli radio. Mr. Shalom called for sanctions to be imposed immediately.

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Iran's "Euro-missile" goes into production
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=9293&highlight=europe+iran+missile

Smurf-Herder
12-16-2009, 10:21 PM
I think of these as Iran's Pershing 2s.

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Bill Cosby
12-16-2009, 10:52 PM
Euro-Missile..... Is that what they call it???

How you think that plays in wackistan??

They are nuked up, on their boarder & they have issues w/ them???

JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Hey- if anyone has nuclear weaponry, Iran should as well. right, lefties?

xav8terx
12-17-2009, 01:51 PM
We were not exactly responsible with ours so who are we to judge? Well atom bomb but yeah.

Zebulon0351
12-17-2009, 02:37 PM
Hey- if anyone has nuclear weaponry, Iran should as well. right, lefties?

I don't think anyone on the left has said that shit-for-brains. It would have been great if somebody had taken care of Iran instead of hunting for a non-existent nuclear program in Iraq. You think? :D

JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 02:44 PM
I don't think anyone on the left has said that shit-for-brains. It would have been great if somebody had taken care of Iran instead of hunting for a non-existent nuclear program in Iraq. You think? :D
Your inability to post without insults is very telling, Zebulon. And for support for the premise of my post...see Xav's post.

xav8terx
12-17-2009, 03:18 PM
Your inability to post without insults is very telling, Zebulon. And for support for the premise of my post...see Xav's post.


They face people like you and who think like you. I cant say i blame them.

JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 03:21 PM
They face people like you and who think like you. I cant say i blame them.
Ahhhhh- the mythical tolerance of the left......

xav8terx
12-17-2009, 03:23 PM
Ahhhhh- the mythical tolerance of the left......


And the warmongering "kill all in front of us" righties...great place we have here huh? Bomb, bomb, Iran...and you almost elected him and the cunt he drug along.

JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 03:26 PM
And the warmongering "kill all in front of us" righties...great place we have here huh? Bomb, bomb, Iran...and you almost elected him and the cunt he drug along.
Hysteria and intolerance suit you well.

CosmicRocker
12-17-2009, 03:27 PM
I don't think anyone on the left has said that shit-for-brains. It would have been great if somebody had taken care of Iran instead of hunting for a non-existent nuclear program in Iraq. You think? :Dgood point. although how to "take care of Iran" is perplexing. :confused:

CosmicRocker
12-17-2009, 03:34 PM
Iran is going to have nuclear weapons. a fact.
Now they will be also able to target Europe.

I believe I read that we have theater ABMS ( maybe ship based) that are capable of launch intercept.
But as SMURF has said these things can be launched very quickly - we'd have to have ships in the area at all times.

I still can't figure out why Obama pulled the ABM;s out of Poland - what did we get in return?

JJGlanton
12-17-2009, 03:41 PM
Iran is going to have nuclear weapons. a fact.
Now they will be also able to target Europe.

I believe I read that we have theater ABMS ( maybe ship based) that are capable of launch intercept.
But as SMURF has said these things can be launched very quickly - we'd have to have ships in the area at all times.

I still can't figure out why Obama pulled the ABM;s out of Poland - what did we get in return?
The eternal gratitude and respect of Russia and Iran.

CosmicRocker
12-17-2009, 05:35 PM
The eternal gratitude and respect of Russia and Iran.
wunderball. I'm all choked up with eternal gratitude. :thumbsup:

Smurf-Herder
12-23-2009, 08:39 PM
Iran is going to have nuclear weapons. a fact.
Now they will be also able to target Europe.

I believe I read that we have theater ABMS ( maybe ship based) that are capable of launch intercept.
But as SMURF has said these things can be launched very quickly - we'd have to have ships in the area at all times.

I still can't figure out why Obama pulled the ABM;s out of Poland - what did we get in return?

Because the SM-3 interceptors on the Aegis ships are a perfected technology. Cheaper and make multiple, mobile targets for anti-missile missile attacks. What bothers me is, cutting funding for the multiple warhead interceptor program. We're heavily into taking out 10 targets with each interceptor. But the funding's been taken away. So, they could overwhelm a system with barrages of conventional missiles, before going to nukes. Just have us use up all our interceptors.

Iran's newer missiles are on trucks that are deployed in fortified bunkers, btw. Just drive out to erect and fire; then go back in the bunker to reload. I believe that have around 100 mobile launchers, as of a few years ago. That means dozens of missiles can be launched simultaneously, with maybe 10 minutes notice, if we were looking in the right places at the right time. I think we only have 150 SM-3s deployed. Not sure how plentiful and accurate the PAC-3 Patriots are; but I know SOP is to fire two interceptors for each target.

Another big factor is, we need interceptors now. not 10 years down the road. Iran is getting ready to launch their second satellite. And we're behind in everything.

He got nothing in return. They just announced no START treaty with the Russians this year.