The Money Masters - How International Bankers Control America - google vid

[Bill]

I've been watching/listening-to this as I work, It's pretty interesting stuff. A brutally long video tho. The guy says there's practical advice about how to deal with a money crisis, when it happens, but I haven't reached that part yet.

I thought you folks might find it interesting. The story of the origin of modern banking. Like old Rothschild said, "Give me the power to issue money, and I care not who makes the laws.".

Right now I'm listening to the part about banking in the revolutionary and post-revolutionary days.

If it's true, how the fed was created by an after-hours during-holiday senate vote by just 3 senators, in 1913, that's just freekin amazing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&hl=en

[Bill]

Huh. It's a really revolutionary yet somehow incredibly appealing idea.

That a government should issue it's own money, rather than allowing private banks to create and control money.

I guess with Lincoln's greenbacks as something of a model?

Wouldn't that be something.

[Bill]

The video doesn't actually seem to have practical instructions, at least not the type I was looking for. I haven't watched the last ten minutes tho.

Basically, they propose passing laws abolishing "fractional reserve banking", the legal right that banks have to lend out ten times as much money as they actually have in the bank.

Combined with passing laws giving the government control over money creation, so that, instead of banks creating and controlling the money supply (all the US government does is _print_ money, it doesn't create it), it becomes the governmnets job to create money, as well as print it.

Which is a fascinating idea. But, the masters will never allow it.

Supposedly, the masters killed Lincoln because he defied them and printed greenbacks. Then punished the whole country, by collapsing the money supply, leading to the horrors of the post-civil-war depression.

It's really an astonishing story, and the video is well worth watching, even if it is way too long.

[Southern Man]

Your pal George Soros knows more about this than most anyone. How do you think he got so filthy rich? By nearly bankrupting nations. He certaintly didn't earn it. Now he wants to bankrupt the US of A with his liberalism.

[Kinky Jones]

Your pal George Soros knows more about this than most anyone. How do you think he got so filthy rich? By nearly bankrupting nations. He certaintly didn't earn it. Now he wants to bankrupt the US of A with his liberalism.

lemme guess, they should hang this Soros fella right? because Bill O'rielly screams and cries about him and says stuff like "they should hang this Soros guy" (http://mediamatters.org/items/200601030007)


O'Reilly has previously accused Soros of being one of the "money men" behind a so-called "secret plan" to "diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A."

and there we have it folks, the "secret war on religion" strikes again and we should listen to an opinion via proxy that holds no water...

welcome to the full spin zone people :thumbsup:

[Southern Man]

lemme guess, they should hang this Soros fella right? because Bill O'rielly screams and cries about him and says stuff like "they should hang this Soros guy" (http://mediamatters.org/items/200601030007)


O'Reilly has previously accused Soros of being one of the "money men" behind a so-called "secret plan" to "diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A."

and there we have it folks, the "secret war on religion" strikes again and we should listen to an opinion via proxy that holds no water...

welcome to the full spin zone people :thumbsup: Wow. You're like one of those toys that requires very little input from the user, then it spins off randomly and crazily.

[Moby]

Your pal George Soros knows more about this than most anyone. How do you think he got so filthy rich? By nearly bankrupting nations. He certaintly didn't earn it. Now he wants to bankrupt the US of A with his liberalism.
Interesting that you would say that. Soros was a major influence in the over throw of the Soviet block and he's been a very out spoken voice against the very liberal economy that the neo-cons are implementing. He's very critical of Dubya for his growth of government and the amount laws signed that govern business and our own lives.

Remember, the neo-cons follow the economic strategy of John Maynard Keynes a very liberal professor and for decades conservatives have considered his books some of the most dangerous books ever written.

Soros is trying to stop the neo-cons and not the conservatives. The neo-cons are for big government and government subsidies to the economy. His agenda is much more middle of the road then the neo-cons. Maybe one day you'll understand the difference between Liberalism, Conservatism and the Neo-Cons.

[Kinky Jones]

Interesting that you would say that. Soros was a major influence in the over throw of the Soviet block and he's been a very out spoken voice against the very liberal economy that the neo-cons are implementing. He's very critical of Dubya for his growth of government and the amount laws signed that govern business and our own lives.

Remember, the neo-cons follow the economic strategy of John Maynard Keynes a very liberal professor and for decades conservatives have considered his books some of the most dangerous books ever written.

Soros is trying to stop the neo-cons and not the conservatives. The neo-cons are for big government and government subsidies to the economy. His agenda is much more middle of the road then the neo-cons. Maybe one day you'll understand the difference between Liberalism, Conservatism and the Neo-Cons.

I didn't get it either and he mentioned Soros more than once so less than 30 seconds in google and you find out that papa bear don't like Soros and says outlandish lies on tv so it must be the truth becaue his show is the no spin zone :D

[Southern Man]

.... Maybe one day you'll understand the difference between Liberalism, Conservatism and the Neo-Cons. I guess so as I've been called a neocon about 50 times so far on this board and I don't even know what it is. Nor do I know of anyone who claims to be one.

I think this is a made -up demon by liberals to justify their misunderstanding of modern economics and their hate of capitalism and love of central control and big government.

[Judy___]

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sUiDomHbL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

Of course there are economic hit men who do the same to the US but this is how we do it to others. The techniques are similar.


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Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

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We speak with John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man he describes how as a highly paid professional, he helped the U.S. cheat poor countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars by lending them more money than they could possibly repay and then take over their economies. [includes rush transcript] John Perkins describes himself as a former economic hit man - a highly paid professional who cheated countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars.

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[psikeyhackr]

Judy, Judy, Judy,...I knew somebody named Judy___ once upon a time.

:D :D

I think this is a made -up demon by liberals to justify their misunderstanding of modern economics and their hate of capitalism and love of central control and big government.

It's 38 years after the moon landing. Have any CAPITALISTS told you how much Americans have lost on depreciation of automobiles.

You can get a used computer off eBay for $100 that is more powerful than a 1980 $3,000,000 mainframe. Do you hear any economists saying that accounting should be mandatory in our schools? Double entry accounting is 700 years old, how difficult can it be?

http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-11714,00.html

Neither the Commies or the Capitalist Pigs suggest mandatory accounting. :lmao2:

Leaders want followers to be dumb and dependent on the leaders.

psik

[Bill]

What I've read about the book "Confessions of an economic hitman" was very interesting, I haven't read the book itself, and still don't see how I'll have time to do it.

I mentioned it earlier here:

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=1077

There seems to be quite a few youtube clips about it, I'll have to watch some of them.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Confessions+of+an+Economic+Hi t+Man

[Moby]

I guess so as I've been called a neocon about 50 times so far on this board and I don't even know what it is. Nor do I know of anyone who claims to be one.

I think this is a made -up demon by liberals to justify their misunderstanding of modern economics and their hate of capitalism and love of central control and big government.
Who was the last President to increase the size of government more, sign more laws governing business, more laws governing society, increase the deficit, increase pork spending and cut more benefits from veterans?

It wasn't a democrat president in your life time. Read a little and you may learn a lot of things.

BTW - Name one President that has spent more time centralizing control then Dubya? That's not a democrat thing. That's a PNAC thing (aka Neo-Con). They've signed their fucking names to the docs. How can you not know about them? Never mind, I know who watch on TV.

The problem is that most Republican voters are voting for bigger government but don't know it because the group that's doing have R's next to their names. Check your facts and you will see the truth.

[Judy___]

Judy, Judy, Judy,...I knew somebody named Judy___ once upon a time.

...

Leaders want followers to be dumb and dependent on the leaders.

psik

Hi psik!!

Yes, leaders like to have dumb followers. And voters often vote for dumb leaders thinking they might not be bright enough to ruin them. Both often get surprises.

[Judy___]

http://oregonstate.edu/cla/polisci/faculty/sahr/debtchng.htm

THis chart is interesting.

Also this one of presidential pay...
http://oregonstate.edu/cla/polisci/faculty/sahr/sumprpay.pdf

Prof Sahr recently moved his web site and so some of the llinks there haven't been fixed yet. Too bad - he seems to be the only one doing long term charting on the web.