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MintJulep
11-15-2009, 02:40 AM
If the New York Trial Incites Terror Attack Should Obama Be Impeached?
The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence.
None of the above are acceptable options, but...
NO!
John Galt
11-15-2009, 05:35 AM
NO....unless you agree that if these confessed terrorists get a speedy trial, and get the death penalty, we automatically cancel the 2012 election, and name Obama as the president.
Mr, gone
11-15-2009, 06:13 AM
what a silly and useless poll, started out of the fear that Minty is full of. I see you have fallen hard for the government's "war on terror" propaganda.:D There will only be another "terrorist" attack if the government supports it.
Socialist_Revolution
11-15-2009, 08:36 AM
The Fact that this is even a poll makes me laugh....ummm NO! because i don't even bother to subscribe to that non sensical way of thinking that was branded and born 8 almost 9 years ago when the right decided to shove 9-11 down our throats every chance they got as a way to install fear and keep us weak.
If a "terror attack " has not happened since that day WHAT makes you think it will happen now?
Minty, there's a lot of cleanup left from the last administration and getting a conviction on this guy is just one of those things. Even you claimed that Bush should have done this years ago but didn't.
Sooner or later this has to have a trial. If Military Tribunals were an option than why didn't Bush do them. We've had this guy around for years and the last administration didn't want to piss off his buddies in Saudi Arabia so now we have to do something.
Kanadesaga
11-15-2009, 12:16 PM
Gee, Minty, guess you got this all wrong too. and I would explain to you the many reasons why a trial is imperative, but you would disregard all of them for your favored pitchfork and torchlit mobscene of "hang em". And you would do this on nothing more than the word of the retard from Texas and the criminal from Wyoming. Just like your favorite people Stalin, Mao and Hitler. Convict because you can. Making YOU the stalinist, fascist, socialist, Nazi symathizer you claim everyone on the left is.
Whereas, the true essence of America is a fair trial. Something us liberal Progressives endorse and support. and something you right wingers rail against.
MintJulep
11-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Minty, there's a lot of cleanup left from the last administration and getting a conviction on this guy is just one of those things. Even you claimed that Bush should have done this years ago but didn't.
Sooner or later this has to have a trial. If Military Tribunals were an option than why didn't Bush do them. We've had this guy around for years and the last administration didn't want to piss off his buddies in Saudi Arabia so now we have to do something.Military tribunals are an option. Terrorists do not have Constitutional rights. Generally, captured combatants are held until the end of the conflict. Obama is also on record stating KSM would receive a military tribunal. Now, he is choosing to put the lives of our citizens at risk for politics.
This is way beyond poor judgment. It is complete idiocy.
http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/
Socialist_Revolution
11-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Military tribunals are an option. Terrorists do not have Constitutional rights. Generally, captured combatants are held until the end of the conflict. Obama is also on record stating KSM would receive a military tribunal. Now, he is choosing to put the lives of our citizens at risk for politics.
This is way beyond poor judgment. It is complete idiocy.
http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/
This guy should have had his trial and been dealt with LONG before now....it is just the Rove/Cheney thinking of these guys are inferior Barbarians and dont deserve shit that has brought on so many enemies to this country.
If nothing else this trial can be used to get some of the families of those that died on that horrible day in front of the man so they can rip him apart with words of how he ruined their families...they can spit at him , punch him whatever but last i remember our justice system allows for mass murders to stand trial and have their day in court and that is what this man is is a mass murderer, whether you fly planes into buildings or kill people and chop their bodies up...its all mass murder.
Military tribunals are an option.
Then why didn't the previous administration bother to use them during the 7 years of holding captives? There are some issues here and you supported leaving them for the next guy instead of taking action. Now you're criticizing the next guy.
Stop acting like a child. If tribunals were accepted than they would have been used years ago.
MintJulep
11-15-2009, 04:24 PM
Then why didn't the previous administration bother to use them during the 7 years of holding captives? There are some issues here and you supported leaving them for the next guy instead of taking action. Now you're criticizing the next guy.
Stop acting like a child. If tribunals were accepted than they would have been used years ago.POWs and enemy combatants are generally held until the conflict is over.
Tribunals are accepted and Obama states that right here and says KSM will have a military tribunal:
http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/
This is an unnecessary risk of innocent lives and a three-ring circus for the terrorists, who will be located only 1000 ft away from the remnants of the WTC. Obama clearly values politics over lives.
Bill Cosby
11-15-2009, 04:33 PM
If the New York Trial Incites Terror Attack Should Obama Be Impeached?
The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence.
Don't you think that is a big assumption???
If there is an attack would it made a difference if they were tried in Cuba??? Makes no sense to me... :dunno:
I don't believe location means much, if anything to them regarding his trial..
Socialist_Revolution
11-15-2009, 04:34 PM
POWs and enemy combatants are generally held until the conflict is over.
Tribunals are accepted and Obama states that right here and says KSM will have a military tribunal:
http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/
This is an unnecessary risk of innocent lives and a three-ring circus for the terrorists, who will be located only 1000 ft away from the remnants of the WTC. Obama clearly values politics over lives.
You keep saying that but dont explain what you mean...can you do that?
Kanadesaga
11-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Military tribunals are an option. Terrorists do not have Constitutional rights. Generally, captured combatants are held until the end of the conflict. Obama is also on record stating KSM would receive a military tribunal. Now, he is choosing to put the lives of our citizens at risk for politics.
This is way beyond poor judgment. It is complete idiocy.
http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/
OKay, we'll try this from the beginning. A person held by the government of the United States, is entitled to ALL the rights of any citizen in the judicial system. Do you think Americans enjoy Constitutional rights when arrested and put on trial in another nation? Do you think that foreigners held for crimes in the US are judged on their native nations judicial code? Obviously the answer is "no" in both instances.
You see, you're boys the 'tard and the 'Vard fucked up big time by torturing this asshole. and they knew it, whi8ch is why they left it to Obama to clean up. Typical spoiled frat boy attitude, make a big mess and expect someone else to clean up after you.
Mr, gone
11-15-2009, 05:03 PM
Why do you think this patsy has not been tried for all these years? They needed time to spin, twist and "groom" Kalid's weak mind into submission.
This trial will be nothing more than a circus to entertain the masses.:p
MintJulep
11-15-2009, 06:48 PM
OKay, we'll try this from the beginning. A person held by the government of the United States, is entitled to ALL the rights of any citizen in the judicial system. Do you think Americans enjoy Constitutional rights when arrested and put on trial in another nation? Do you think that foreigners held for crimes in the US are judged on their native nations judicial code? Obviously the answer is "no" in both instances.
You see, you're boys the 'tard and the 'Vard fucked up big time by torturing this asshole. and they knew it, whi8ch is why they left it to Obama to clean up. Typical spoiled frat boy attitude, make a big mess and expect someone else to clean up after you.No. Foreign unlawful enemy combatants are not entitled to Constitutional rights and never in history have they been afforded such. This is UNPRECEDENTED.
The only mistake was not drowning this son of a bitch.
CosmicRocker
11-15-2009, 07:12 PM
Minty, there's a lot of cleanup left from the last administration and getting a conviction on this guy is just one of those things. Even you claimed that Bush should have done this years ago but didn't.
Sooner or later this has to have a trial. If Military Tribunals were an option than why didn't Bush do them. We've had this guy around for years and the last administration didn't want to piss off his buddies in Saudi Arabia so now we have to do something.damn good question.
One thing I could never fathom was why they held them so long - indefinatly.
Socialist_Revolution
11-15-2009, 07:38 PM
No. Foreign unlawful enemy combatants are not entitled to Constitutional rights and never in history have they been afforded such. This is UNPRECEDENTED.
The only mistake was not drowning this son of a bitch.
I like you for the mostpart Minty...we have our issues and all BUT I must say that is the most barbaric and uncompassionate statement ANYONE has EVER made. Did you read my comments about giving him a trial? YES he commited mass murder on that horrific day but he still deserves a trial and for justice to be served for EVERYONE...what good would drowning the "son of a bitch" have done? As ghandi said and I found on a bumber sticker today " an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'
MintJulep
11-15-2009, 08:06 PM
No. Foreign unlawful enemy combatants are not entitled to Constitutional rights and never in history have they been afforded such. This is UNPRECEDENTED.
The only mistake was not drowning this son of a bitch.
I like you for the mostpart Minty...we have our issues and all BUT I must say that is the most barbaric and uncompassionate statement ANYONE has EVER made. Did you read my comments about giving him a trial? YES he commited mass murder on that horrific day but he still deserves a trial and for justice to be served for EVERYONE...what good would drowning the "son of a bitch" have done? As ghandi said and I found on a bumber sticker today " an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'I am damn mad about this situation so I meant it. If we'd drowned the SOB, we wouldn't be risking the lives of our citizens to bring this human garbage here.
The people who died on that day didn't get any "options" so fuck him and the camel he rode in on.
doctordog
11-15-2009, 08:07 PM
No. Foreign unlawful enemy combatants are not entitled to Constitutional rights and never in history have they been afforded such. This is UNPRECEDENTED.
The only mistake was not drowning this son of a bitch.
I like you for the mostpart Minty...we have our issues and all BUT I must say that is the most barbaric and uncompassionate statement ANYONE has EVER made. Did you read my comments about giving him a trial? YES he commited mass murder on that horrific day but he still deserves a trial and for justice to be served for EVERYONE...what good would drowning the "son of a bitch" have done? As ghandi said and I found on a bumber sticker today " an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'
FUCK ghadi, when we more of an eye for an eye country, this shit did not happen, pussy liberal poltically correct, "we have feelings" is why the country is going to hell in a hand basket.
MintJulep
11-15-2009, 08:08 PM
FUCK ghadi, when we more of an eye for an eye country, this shit did not happen, pussy liberal poltically correct, "we have feelings" is why the country is going to hell in a hand basket.Thirteen Americans are now in a pine box thanks to political correctness.
doctordog
11-15-2009, 08:11 PM
Thirteen Americans are now in a pine box thanks to political correctness.
Liberals like a high body count.
Socialist_Revolution
11-15-2009, 09:27 PM
Liberals like a high body count.
It seems to me neocon warhawks like a high body count...how many innocent civilians died in Iraq and what about that town we took out in Afghanistan that we "thought" was filled with insurgents? It seems far more die at the hands of these "wars' we got into than died on 9-11 AND in Texas...but i guess that Iraq and Afgahnistan is just "collateral damage " in the name of getting the evil bad guys!:banghead:
doctordog
11-15-2009, 09:43 PM
It seems to me neocon warhawks like a high body count...how many innocent civilians died in Iraq and what about that town we took out in Afghanistan that we "thought" was filled with insurgents? It seems far more die at the hands of these "wars' we got into than died on 9-11 AND in Texas...but i guess that Iraq and Afgahnistan is just "collateral damage " in the name of getting the evil bad guys!:banghead:
I'll take 100 dead afghans to one dead American.
lucytalk
11-15-2009, 10:12 PM
If the New York Trial Incites Terror Attack Should Obama Be Impeached?
The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence.
No. Foreign unlawful enemy combatants are not entitled to Constitutional rights and never in history have they been afforded such. This is UNPRECEDENTED.
lmao
it's like you use misinformation and terror to help support your views
america has tried more then one terrorist before now. tell me when john gotti was tried did you think the mob was going to attack then as well? (yeah i know they're not considered terrorist but same principal)
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Yet, earlier this year, Republican Defense Secretary Robert Gates explained how terrorists have been tried and convicted by American courts for years: “This started 20 years ago when I was at CIA, and we captured a Hezbollah terrorist who had been involved in killing an American sailor on an aircraft that had been taken hostage in Beirut. We brought him to the United States, put him on trial and put him in prison.” In fact federal prosecutions have been extraordinarily effective. The federal prison system holds or held a large number of convicted terrorists, including:
* Ramzi Yousef. The mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombings was convicted and sentenced in 1998 by the Federal District Court in Manhattan and is being held at ADX Florence, the supermax prison in Florence, Colorado. [NY Times, 1/9/98. NY Times, 4/5/03]
* Zacharias Moussaoui. Convicted of conspiring to kill Americans for his role in the 9/11 attacks, Moussaoui is currently serving a life sentence at the ADX Florence, the supermax prison in Florence Colorado. [NY Times, 5/3/06. NY Times, 5/14/06. NY Times, 5/5/06]
* East African embassy bombing perpetrators. Wahid el-Hage, Mohammed Sadiq Odeh, Mohammed Rashed al-Owhali, and Khalfan Khamis Mohammed are all serving in ADX supermax. [NY Times, 12/25/01]
* Richard C. Reid. The so called “Shoe Bomber,” Reid was convicted for trying to blow up an airliner over the Atlantic with explosives in his shoe. He is currently serving a life sentence at the ADX Florence supermax prison. [NY Times, 1/31/03. NY Times, 5/14/06]
* Timothy McVeigh. Convicted of killing 168 people by blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, McVeigh was held in the Colorado Supermax prison, ADX Florence, until his execution on June 11, 2001. [NY Times, 6/11/01]
* Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri. The only person known to be held as an enemy combatant in the continental United States, al-Marri spent six years in the Naval Consolidated Brig in Charleston South Carolina and is now being held in the Federal Correctional Institution in Illinois. [Associated Press Via Fox News, 5/1/09. NY Times, 4/30/09]
* Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. Responsible for plotting a series of bombings and assassinations, Omar Abdel-Rahman is currently serving a life sentence at Butner Federal Correctional Institution in North Carolina. [NY Times, 1/18/96.]
* Muhammad Salameh. Convicted for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Salameh is serving a life sentence in ADX Florence. [Library of Congress, 9/99. NY Times, 3/5/94.]
http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1452
Independent Harry
11-16-2009, 12:59 AM
If the New York Trial Incites Terror Attack Should Obama Be Impeached?
The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence.
I didn't know you had hold Islamic views to be a terrorist...I thought it was simply committing an act of violence to express any political or ideological view...
Bill Cosby
11-16-2009, 01:28 AM
lmao
it's like you use misinformation and terror to help support your views
america has tried more then one terrorist before now. tell me when john gotti was tried did you think the mob was going to attack then as well? (yeah i know they're not considered terrorist but same principal)
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Yet, earlier this year, Republican Defense Secretary Robert Gates explained how terrorists have been tried and convicted by American courts for years: “This started 20 years ago when I was at CIA, and we captured a Hezbollah terrorist who had been involved in killing an American sailor on an aircraft that had been taken hostage in Beirut. We brought him to the United States, put him on trial and put him in prison.” In fact federal prosecutions have been extraordinarily effective. The federal prison system holds or held a large number of convicted terrorists, including:
* Ramzi Yousef. The mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombings was convicted and sentenced in 1998 by the Federal District Court in Manhattan and is being held at ADX Florence, the supermax prison in Florence, Colorado. [NY Times, 1/9/98. NY Times, 4/5/03]
* Zacharias Moussaoui. Convicted of conspiring to kill Americans for his role in the 9/11 attacks, Moussaoui is currently serving a life sentence at the ADX Florence, the supermax prison in Florence Colorado. [NY Times, 5/3/06. NY Times, 5/14/06. NY Times, 5/5/06]
* East African embassy bombing perpetrators. Wahid el-Hage, Mohammed Sadiq Odeh, Mohammed Rashed al-Owhali, and Khalfan Khamis Mohammed are all serving in ADX supermax. [NY Times, 12/25/01]
* Richard C. Reid. The so called “Shoe Bomber,” Reid was convicted for trying to blow up an airliner over the Atlantic with explosives in his shoe. He is currently serving a life sentence at the ADX Florence supermax prison. [NY Times, 1/31/03. NY Times, 5/14/06]
* Timothy McVeigh. Convicted of killing 168 people by blowing up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, McVeigh was held in the Colorado Supermax prison, ADX Florence, until his execution on June 11, 2001. [NY Times, 6/11/01]
* Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri. The only person known to be held as an enemy combatant in the continental United States, al-Marri spent six years in the Naval Consolidated Brig in Charleston South Carolina and is now being held in the Federal Correctional Institution in Illinois. [Associated Press Via Fox News, 5/1/09. NY Times, 4/30/09]
* Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. Responsible for plotting a series of bombings and assassinations, Omar Abdel-Rahman is currently serving a life sentence at Butner Federal Correctional Institution in North Carolina. [NY Times, 1/18/96.]
* Muhammad Salameh. Convicted for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Salameh is serving a life sentence in ADX Florence. [Library of Congress, 9/99. NY Times, 3/5/94.]
http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1452
Excellent points...........:thumbsup: :banana: :banana:
Socialist_Revolution
11-16-2009, 04:45 AM
terrorist attack
noun
a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorist+attack?qsrc=2446
it says NOTHING about islamic views just religous so minty you are using assumptions to stereotype.
damn good question.
One thing I could never fathom was why they held them so long - indefinatly.
I think they were held over for the next guy to cause the type of media hysteria that we see today.
Think about it.
You can't do military tribunals because there was no declaration of war. If we claim that his government sponsored the terrorist attacks than we have to blame Saudi Arabia and that means two things:
1. Bush family allies sponsored the war
2. We invaded the wrong country (I think most people understand that now)
Remember we're at a time in history where political media consultants are running media outlets. Every thing is pushed into the media just like this issue.
It was left over to cause this type of hysteria and Minty and others are playing along as the perfect pawns.
Military tribunals are an option. Terrorists do not have Constitutional rights. Generally, captured combatants are held until the end of the conflict. Obama is also on record stating KSM would receive a military tribunal. Now, he is choosing to put the lives of our citizens at risk for politics.
This is way beyond poor judgment. It is complete idiocy.
http://www.breitbart.tv/bombshell-uncovered-obama-statement-ksm-will-get-full-military-trial/
I think the problem was that military tribunals are only an option if we're at war. We're not at war with Saudi Arabia so we can't pull him into a tribunal without claiming that Bush's family friends attacked us.
The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence.
So there was never any terrorism in Ireland because they didn't have Islamic views?
Bill Cosby
11-16-2009, 10:38 AM
I love that vote-poll
Yes - He is deliberately putting lives at risk for political gain.... only one
No - Terrorists have feelings too............ four (4) lol.. HAHaheeeeee........
BlackAsCoal
11-16-2009, 10:49 AM
What the fuck kind of "poll" is this .. with all the answers you want to say.
The question asked in this thread is monumentally ignorant .. and it only reveals a demonic mind that wants an attack to occur to prove itself right.
Ideology before country, before all sense of humanity.
serum114
11-16-2009, 12:36 PM
If NY Terrorist Trials Incite a Terror Attack, Should Obama be Impeached?
Yes - Because I'm a right wing coward that can't handle the fact that a black Democrat is in office. It gives me irritable bowel syndrome and and I'm sitting in front of the TV watching FOX news shitting my pants at the thought of mooslims.
What the fuck kind of "poll" is this .. with all the answers you want to say.
Of course it has to be stacked. You can't open up something to honest debate.
MintJulep
11-16-2009, 01:45 PM
If NY Terrorist Trials Incite a Terror Attack, Should Obama be Impeached?
Yes - Because I'm a right wing coward that can't handle the fact that a black Democrat is in office. It gives me irritable bowel syndrome and and I'm sitting in front of the TV watching FOX news shitting my pants at the thought of mooslims.Typical moonbat rhetoric. Sorry pal, your little "waycist" shtick isn't going very far with this one. Most Americans could give a shit about your little terrorist friends. Cry waycist till the cows come home and it ain't gonna change that. :thumbsup:
The only good terrorist is a DEAD one.
MintJulep
11-16-2009, 01:46 PM
So there was never any terrorism in Ireland because they didn't have Islamic views?Who said anything about that?
The IRA will not be who blows shit up or kills people while we are trying these little savages in NYC.
serum114
11-16-2009, 01:54 PM
Typical moonbat rhetoric. Sorry pal, your little "waycist" shtick isn't going very far with this one. Most Americans could give a shit about your little terrorist friends. Cry waycist till the cows come home and it ain't gonna change that. :thumbsup:
The only good terrorist is a DEAD one.
Where did I say anything about racism? The whole premise of this thread is nothing but rhetoric. It's purely partisan politics, that was the point if W had given an effort to prosecute most Republicans would have been OK with it.
Who said anything about that?
The IRA will not be who blows shit up or kills people while we are trying these little savages in NYC.
You stated "The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence."
I was just asking if terrorism could occur without Islamic views. I think it can and asked about a situation in history.
MintJulep
11-16-2009, 02:03 PM
You stated "The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence."
I was just asking if terrorism could occur without Islamic views. I think it can and asked about a situation in history.Certainly it can. I was talking any terrorism pertaining to this particular situation, though.
The_Limit
11-16-2009, 02:32 PM
Why in the hell would it be Obama's fault, if crazy hate-filled Islamofascists committed a gross act of terrorism?
Its like blaming Bush for 9/11.
It was disgusting when people blamed Bush for any terrorist attack, and it is disgusting when people are trying to pre-blame Obama for it now.
NONE of the past two president have ANY BLAME when people bent on killing people KILL PEOPLE.
The blame lies with the MURDERERS AND MURDERERS ONLY.
How petty of you to even start such a thread.
Absolutely disgusting.
Socialist_Revolution
11-16-2009, 03:25 PM
What the fuck kind of "poll" is this .. with all the answers you want to say.
The question asked in this thread is monumentally ignorant .. and it only reveals a demonic mind that wants an attack to occur to prove itself right.
Ideology before country, before all sense of humanity.
BINGO!that is the way of neocons...they say libs hate this country but tell me what good does predicting/wanting another attack do besides create a hyper partisan rhetoric feel, I cant remember who it was but some ignorant smuck went on fox news and said basically that he wanted another terror attack to wake the country back up...was not said in those exact terms but that is what he meant...what is wrong with these so called "patriots"?!
MintJulep
11-16-2009, 03:42 PM
Why in the hell would it be Obama's fault, if crazy hate-filled Islamofascists committed a gross act of terrorism?By bringing foreign Islamofascist terrorists to our soil, he is tempting armed Islamic terrorists who are already here to stage an attack. It could be a school taken hostage with demands to release the terrorists, or another bomb going off in NYC.
Make no mistake, if one person dies because of this terrorist-loving spectacle, the blood will be on Mullah Obama's hands. He has the power to stop it. We have the facilities in place in GITMO consistent with the rule of law to conduct these trials. Bringing them here to make terrorists and their supporters "feel good" is unnecessarily endangering the lives of citizens and a dereliction of duty.
MintJulep
11-16-2009, 03:44 PM
Where did I say anything about racism? The whole premise of this thread is nothing but rhetoric. It's purely partisan politics, that was the point if W had given an effort to prosecute most Republicans would have been OK with it.Right here:
"Yes - Because I'm a right wing coward that can't handle the fact that a black Democrat is in office."
Find another excuse to defend terrorists. This bogus crutch was worn down to a toothpick two years ago.
The_Limit
11-16-2009, 04:53 PM
By bringing foreign Islamofascist terrorists to our soil, he is tempting armed Islamic terrorists who are already here to stage an attack. It could be a school taken hostage with demands to release the terrorists, or another bomb going off in NYC.
Make no mistake, if one person dies because of this terrorist-loving spectacle, the blood will be on Mullah Obama's hands. He has the power to stop it. We have the facilities in place in GITMO consistent with the rule of law to conduct these trials. Bringing them here to make terrorists and their supporters "feel good" is unnecessarily endangering the lives of citizens and a dereliction of duty.
You're stupid, fantastical views on this matter are astonishing in their idiocy.
You remind me EXACTLY of the idiots who tried to blame Bush for the 9/11 attacks.
Placing the blame on your fellow American instead of the murderers...a tactic of the lazy, ignorant and bitter.
MintJulep
11-16-2009, 06:34 PM
You're stupid, fantastical views on this matter are astonishing in their idiocy.
You remind me EXACTLY of the idiots who tried to blame Bush for the 9/11 attacks.
Placing the blame on your fellow American instead of the murderers...a tactic of the lazy, ignorant and bitter.He has the opportunity to stop them from coming here. His choice. If he brings the terrorists here to be "tried", then he is responsible for anything those actions precipitate.
The_Limit
11-16-2009, 06:53 PM
He has the opportunity to stop them from coming here. His choice. If he brings the terrorists here to be "tried", then he is responsible for anything those actions precipitate.
Do you realize how stupid it sounds when you say "he has the opportunity to stop them from coming here?"
It is absolutely meaningless. An excercise in bizarre rhetoric.
If some maniac wants to blow up schoolchildren, than that is on the murderer who decides to commit such a heinous crime.
For you to blame it on the President is outrageous.
It is no one's fault but the person who decides to carry out the crime.
The_Limit
11-16-2009, 06:58 PM
The Iraq war was directly responsible for the high recruiting numbers for Al-queda and the other various groups that did not exist before the US invasion of Iraq.
That has put the US at far more risk than KSM having a trial in New York.
BlackAsCoal
11-18-2009, 09:04 AM
You're stupid, fantastical views on this matter are astonishing in their idiocy.
You remind me EXACTLY of the idiots who tried to blame Bush for the 9/11 attacks.
Placing the blame on your fellow American instead of the murderers...a tactic of the lazy, ignorant and bitter.
I beg to differ a bit.
If Obama had prior warnings that a terror attack was imminent in New York then did NOTHING about it .. then a terror attack occurs in New York .. he could most certainly be blamed.
That's just scratching the surface of 9/11.
BlackAsCoal
11-18-2009, 09:05 AM
He has the opportunity to stop them from coming here. His choice. If he brings the terrorists here to be "tried", then he is responsible for anything those actions precipitate.
Wow
Moronic beyond belief.
doctordog
11-18-2009, 05:33 PM
Do you realize how stupid it sounds when you say "he has the opportunity to stop them from coming here?"
It is absolutely meaningless. An excercise in bizarre rhetoric.
If some maniac wants to blow up schoolchildren, than that is on the murderer who decides to commit such a heinous crime.
For you to blame it on the President is outrageous.
It is no one's fault but the person who decides to carry out the crime.
If that was true, Michael Moore would be broke from making movies!:lmao2:
MintJulep
11-18-2009, 05:49 PM
Wow
Moronic beyond belief.No, realistic beyond belief.
foxbaron
11-18-2009, 08:37 PM
The Obama Administration bears the brunt of the responsibility if the radical muslim cells decide to respond to the trial with acts of violence. It is his choice that he is bringing them here for trial. The same trial can just as easily be held in GITMO, assumming you agree they are entitled to a trial.
It is an opportunity for violence that they will be hard pressed to ignore and not just necessarily in New York.
Is there an opportunity KSM may be found not guilty? Is so, what then?
If not, then is this nothing more than a show trial like the Russians used to put on? Is that justice or just another kanagroo court?
What do you say to the families of anyone killled if the radical muslims decide to reach out and touch someone? I'd love to hear that explanation.
Maybe you guys should start working on your responses, now.
Bill Cosby
11-18-2009, 09:24 PM
The Obama Administration bears the brunt of the responsibility if the radical muslim cells decide to respond to the trial with acts of violence. It is his choice that he is bringing them here for trial. The same trial can just as easily be held in GITMO, assumming you agree they are entitled to a trial.
It is an opportunity for violence that they will be hard pressed to ignore and not just necessarily in New York.
Is there an opportunity KSM may be found not guilty? Is so, what then?
If not, then is this nothing more than a show trial like the Russians used to put on? Is that justice or just another kanagroo court?
What do you say to the families of anyone killled if the radical muslims decide to reach out and touch someone? I'd love to hear that explanation.
Maybe you guys should start working on your responses, now.
Did the terrorist state a preference as to were they want them tried???:disbelief:
To me it is stupid to assume for political reasons that they will attack if they are tried in NYC as opposed to Cuba or anywhere else.. WTF do they care???
They don't......................
So if the trial is in NYC it is Obama's fault......... If it is in Cuba it is his falut. If there is no trial it is his fault...
Now you should start working on your response..........:lmao2:
foxbaron
11-18-2009, 11:11 PM
Did the terrorist state a preference as to were they want them tried???:disbelief:
To me it is stupid to assume for political reasons that they will attack if they are tried in NYC as opposed to Cuba or anywhere else.. WTF do they care???
They don't......................
So if the trial is in NYC it is Obama's fault......... If it is in Cuba it is his falut. If there is no trial it is his fault...
Now you should start working on your response..........:lmao2:
I would execute him by firing squad and bury him in pigs blood and screw a trial.
MintJulep
11-18-2009, 11:19 PM
I would execute him by firing squad and bury him in pigs blood .Facing West, with a bottle of Jack.
xav8terx
11-19-2009, 09:57 AM
Facing West, with a bottle of Jack.
So can we bury bush nailed upside-down on the cross and throw Cheney in a pit with goats blood and a pentagram nailed to his fuckin forehead?
Bill Cosby
11-19-2009, 11:20 AM
I would execute him by firing squad and bury him in pigs blood and screw a trial.
I was expecting more from you....:disbelief:
Hopefully if they are one day looking for you or some of your loved ones they will be better men then you............:thumbsup:
Binky
11-19-2009, 12:24 PM
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FUCK ghadi, when we more of an eye for an eye country, this shit did not happen, pussy liberal poltically correct, "we have feelings" is why the country is going to hell in a hand basket.
There isn't any doubt in my mind about that. Heaven forbid we step on anyones toes and hurt their little feelings. Geez... What the hell ever happened to "grow a pair" and become adults with adult thinking rather than whining about this and that every time something doesn't go right? America has turned into a sissified, cry baby, whiney country where anything goes. This pc crapola has put this country in the gutter.....
Binky
11-19-2009, 12:34 PM
You stated "The definition of a terrorist act is any individual holding radical Islamic views committing an act of violence."
I was just asking if terrorism could occur without Islamic views. I think it can and asked about a situation in history.
Sure. It has just recently. Anyone going and terrorizing others for whatever reason, is a terrorist. Doesn't make much difference what their nationality is. Look at Columbine, for instance. That had nothing to do with Islam or any other kind of religion. It was just a nut job that went bezerk. Unfortunately, one of our own can do it. Look at Charles Manson. He and his bunch were nothing but murdering terrorists. Plain and simple. Terrorism can come from any direction. Islam just happens to be the largest one that stands out more.
MintJulep
11-19-2009, 12:48 PM
So can we bury bush nailed upside-down on the cross and throw Cheney in a pit with goats blood and a pentagram nailed to his fuckin forehead?Awwww, look at the widdle baby all upset because I talked bad about his widdle twerrorist heroes. :lmao2:
xav8terx
11-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Awwww, look at the widdle baby all upset because I talked bad about his widdle twerrorist heroes. :lmao2:
Nope, just showing your ignorance once again.
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