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doctordog
11-07-2009, 08:05 PM
With House Democrats racing to pass their 2,000-plus page health care reform bill this weekend, a new CNN/Opinion Research poll shows that an overwhelming majority of those surveyed -- 72 percent -- want Congress either to make major changes, start over from scratch, or simply stop working on health care legislation. Just 26 percent want Congress to pass the current health care proposal as is, or with minor changes.

This was the question asked by the CNN/Opinion Research pollsters:

As you may know, several health care bills have been passed by committees in the U.S. House and Senate and they can be brought before Congress for debate and a final vote at any time. Which of the following do you think Congress should do:

** Continue working on those bills this fall and make relatively minor changes
before passing final legislation.

** Continue working on those bills this fall but pass final legislation only if major changes are made.

** Start work on entirely new bills that would not be ready until some time next year.

** Stop working on any bills that would change the country's health care system.

The results: 26 percent want the bills passed with relatively minor changes; 33 percent want the bills passed but only with major changes; 24 percent want Congress to start work on entirely new bills; and 15 percent want Congress to stop work altogether. Just one percent have no opinion.

That means 72 percent of those surveyed either want Congress to make major changes, start over, or stop work on health care reform, versus 26 percent who want the bills passed with minor changes.

On another question, the CNN/Opinion Research pollsters found that 53 percent of those surveyed oppose President Obama's plan to reform health care, with 45 percent favoring the plan. Just two weeks ago, the same pollsters found the public evenly split on the issue, 49 percent to 49 percent.

The 53 percent opposition to ObamaCare is the highest figure in any of six CNN/Opinion Research polls since June. The question asked was whether respondents "favor or oppose Barack Obama's plan to reform health care." Even though the president has not put forth a plan of his own, the White House released a statement today saying that he strongly supports the House Democrats' health care bill.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Poll-Huge-majority-doesnt-want-Democrats-health-care-bill-69399612.html

The_Limit
11-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Thats because most Americans want Single-payer.

doctordog
11-07-2009, 08:32 PM
Thats because most Americans want Single-payer.

That is what I hear, but they can't make their representatives hear their pleas.

Parade Rain
11-07-2009, 08:33 PM
That is what I hear, but they can't make their representatives hear their pleas.

That's because 'ka-ching, ka-ching' is all whores can hear.

doctordog
11-07-2009, 08:35 PM
That's because 'ka-ching, ka-ching' is all whores can hear.

I agree, until you have term limits for congress, this will not change. Most of those long term seat holders are owned.

MintJulep
11-07-2009, 08:35 PM
That is what I hear, but they can't make their representatives hear their pleas.I think they heard on Tuesday night.

doctordog
11-07-2009, 08:38 PM
I think they heard on Tuesday night.

That Michigan race shocked me, that race alone tells me democrats are in trouble in the next Presidential election.

CosmicRocker
11-07-2009, 08:39 PM
Isn't the House vote scheduled for tonight?

foxbaron
11-07-2009, 08:40 PM
hy don't we all agree to vote every single member out of office no matter who they are, how good or bad they are just dump them all and start over.

Sure can't be any worse than what is going on now.

Maybe that is what is needed, new faces, new thoughts, new ideas, new values and then let them all know they only get two terms no matter what they do.

MintJulep
11-07-2009, 08:42 PM
That Michigan race shocked me, that race alone tells me democrats are in trouble in the next Presidential election. If they pass this healthcare bomb against the will of their supporters, the red-state democrats' asses will be run out on rails.

Wait for it.

doctordog
11-07-2009, 08:45 PM
hy don't we all agree to vote every single member out of office no matter who they are, how good or bad they are just dump them all and start over.

Sure can't be any worse than what is going on now.

Maybe that is what is needed, new faces, new thoughts, new ideas, new values and then let them all know they only get two terms no matter what they do.

It would be great but I don't really see that happening.

doctordog
11-07-2009, 08:46 PM
If they pass this healthcare bomb against the will of their supporters, the red-state democrats' asses will be run out on rails.

Wait for it.

I do like those Blue Dogs!:thumbsup:

Moby
11-07-2009, 10:19 PM
hy don't we all agree to vote every single member out of office no matter who they are, how good or bad they are just dump them all and start over.
I've asked people on this board at least twice if they voted for nay incumbents during the last election and no one responded. I'm might vote for a few people for a 2nd Senate term or a rep for a 3rd term or maybe even with but people in office for more than 8 to 10 years start to get really bad. I'm not sure that I ever voted for someone that had been around that long but people seem to keep doing it.

Moby
11-07-2009, 10:21 PM
I agree, until you have term limits for congress, this will not change. Most of those long term seat holders are owned.
People elect thier own officials. If they;re stupid enough to keep voting people in than maybe they're too stupid to be allowed to vote. Rules isn't the problem with term limits. Voters are the problem.

Moby
11-07-2009, 10:22 PM
That is what I hear, but they can't make their representatives hear their pleas.
You want your reps to move forward with a single-payer system? :disbelief:

doctordog
11-07-2009, 10:31 PM
You want your reps to move forward with a single-payer system? :disbelief:

I don't but he said most voters do.

BlackAsCoal
11-08-2009, 09:29 AM
If they pass this healthcare bomb against the will of their supporters, the red-state democrats' asses will be run out on rails.

Wait for it.

What is the benefit of having someone labelled "democrat" if they have to vote republican to stay in office?

Why are they democrats?

BlackAsCoal
11-08-2009, 09:30 AM
People elect thier own officials. If they;re stupid enough to keep voting people in than maybe they're too stupid to be allowed to vote. Rules isn't the problem with term limits. Voters are the problem.

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