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Life_Long_Dem!
10-25-2009, 03:16 PM
Critics Call the Criticism of Fox News Petty, But Maybe It Could Work
By LINDA FELDMANN
Oct. 25, 2009—


The Obama administration has taken a fair amount of grief for its campaign to marginalize Fox News, saying the cable network is "not a news organization" but rather "the communications arm of the Republican Party."

Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus, not a fire-breathing conservative, calls it "dumb on multiple levels"  a distraction from policy messages, a boost to Fox ratings, and, she writes, "it deprives the White House, to the extent it refuses to provide administration officials to appear on the cable network, of access to an audience that is, in fact, broader than hardcore Obama-haters."

Stephen Hess, a Brookings Institution scholar on White House press relations going back decades, says, "It makes them in the White House look terribly political, and political means petty in our lexicon."

The White House has also opened itself up to charges that it is creating an "enemies list," à la President Richard Nixon  a charge made on the Senate floor Wednesday by Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) of Tennessee, the No. 3 Republican in the Senate with a reputation for collegiality. He also cited recent administration criticism of the US Chamber of Commerce, the insurance industry, and the insurance company Humana, among others.

Obama's strategy

Still, could the administration have planted seeds that could pay dividends down the road? Perhaps, says Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

"If the White House could persuade moderates that any story originating with Fox is politically motivated and hence suspect, it might reduce the initial impact of Fox-generated content," she says. "What the White House appears to be trying to do is reduce the migration of stories from Fox to other cable, broadcast, and print."
Fox has gotten mileage recently with stories about community organizers ACORN and green jobs "czar" Van Jones, who resigned his White House post after Fox and other conservative media pushed aggressively on his past associations.

"There are two audiences here," says liberal columnist David Sirota. "There's the Fox audience, then there's the rest of the news-consuming public. You're never going to delegitimize Fox with the hardest of the hardcore base. But if you can delegitimize it in the eyes of the rest of the media, that impacts the rest of the news-consuming audience."

The anti-Fox campaign

The administration's anti-Fox drumbeat has been building for weeks.

On Sept. 20, President Obama appeared on all the major Sunday morning news programs except Fox News. Last week, White House communications director Anita Dunn asserted that "Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party."

But perhaps the starkest moment came last Sunday, when Obama's top two political aides unleashed attacks.

Fox News "is not really news," said David Axelrod on ABC. "It's pushing a point of view."

Rahm Emanuel told CNN that Obama considers Fox News "not a news organization so much as it has a perspective."

When reporters pressed White House spokesman Robert Gibbs later for specifics, he mentioned Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity  two personalities known for their fiery rhetoric (as distinct from briefing room regulars like Major Garrett and Wendell Goler).

Fox's owner, Rupert Murdoch, says ratings have gone up since the Obama "campaign" began. Obama himself has not engaged in the discussion, but when asked about it on Wednesday in an interview with NBC, he said, "it's not something I'm losing a lot of sleep over."

"I think the American people are a lot more interested in what we're doing to create jobs or how we're handling the situation in Afghanistan," Obama said.

Democrats cheer

Some Democratic media strategists say the White House is right to go after Fox  particularly the more incendiary personalities like Mr. Beck.

"I just find the antics of my buddy Glenn Beck absolutely out of control, and I think the problem now is that the rhetoric has been ratcheted up so high," says Peter Fenn, president of Fenn Communications Group. "To capture an audience, they have to be more shrill and outrageous than the last time they were on."

Fenn says he also wishes Keith Olbermann, a liberal talk show host on MSNBC prone to over-the-top rhetoric, would dial it back. "I wish he'd stop doing 'The Worst Person in the World,'" says Fenn.



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Life_Long_Dem!
10-25-2009, 03:28 PM
(CBS) After months of taking incoming fire from the prime-time stars of Fox News, the Obama White House is firing back, charging that FOX News is different from all other news.

"FOX News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican party," said Anita Dunn, White House communications director.

"If media is operating basically as a talk radio format, then that's one thing, and if it's operating as a news outlet, then that's another," Mr. Obama said.

And the White House has gone beyond words, reports CBS News senior political correspondent Jeff Greenfield. Last Sept. 20, the president went on every Sunday news show - except Chris Wallace's show on FOX. And on Thursday, the Treasury Department tried to exclude FOX News from pool coverage of interviews with a key official. It backed down after strong protests from the press.

"All the networks said, that's it, you've crossed the line," said CBS News White House correspondent Chip Reid.

Tension between presidents and the press is as old as the Republic. FDR was so incensed by the war reporting of one New York Daily News correspondent he tried to present him with an Iron Cross from Nazi Germany. John Kennedy tried to get New York Timesman David Halberstam pulled out of Vietnam; and Vice-President Spiro Agnew's assaults on the network press is legendary.

"We have more than our share of nattering nabobs of negativism," Agnew said.

What gives this dust-up special irony is that FOX News success comes in no small part from its ability to convince its viewers that the "mainstream" media are slanted to the left. Now, the White House is arguing that the network is not a real news organization at all, and that has brought some mainstream media voices to its defense.

There's no question that FOX's prime-time voices come from the right. Moreover, its owner, Rupert Murdoch is a staunch conservative, and its first and only CEO, Roger Ailes, is a veteran of Republican media wars.

But MSNBC in prime-time has its own lineup of commentators - all of whom are on the left side of the spectrum, some of whom met with the president the White House this week.

So why is the White House out to "de-legitimize" FOX? Not because it has opinions, but because its opinion voices are so hostile to Mr. Obama - and because FOX News is, as it has been for a decade, by far the most watched of the cable news networks. In fact, its ratings have increased 13 percent this summer. So if FOX is feeling any pain from the White House's stance, it's crying all the way to the bank.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/23/eveningnews/main5415921.shtml

Mason66
10-25-2009, 06:03 PM
This story assumes that people are just stupid and can't think for themselves.

If they think the White House can convince anybody of anything they are crazy.

Anybody that can think for themselves will watch Fox and make up thier own minds.

MintJulep
10-25-2009, 06:09 PM
The Fox News War: What's the Upside for Obama? In a word, NONE.

But FOX is laughing all the way to the bank....


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Life_Long_Dem!
10-25-2009, 06:10 PM
This story assumes that people are just stupid and can't think for themselves.

If they think the White House can convince anybody of anything they are crazy.

Anybody that can think for themselves will watch Fox and make up thier own minds.
which one are you talking about? the abc or cbs one...has to be the highlighted part of the abc one cause cbs is not to friendly about it towards the whitehouse. I posted these cause Moby said he wanted to hear what the bureau chiefs were saying and this is what I came up with so far...msnbc had nothing except a rachael maddow piece on how fox news isnt news....knew that one would be ripped to shreds by you wingers so I didnt post it.

ROdger Right
10-25-2009, 06:27 PM
A really dumbmove to insult so many people. Hes going to ripped apart as he continues his partisian mission. Yea by attacking them more people will watch them. The way this is going to go is that only the die hard left will continue to believe what this administration is preaching instead of what they hopped to do.

Boogie man
10-25-2009, 07:27 PM
A bunch of independents watch Fox and BO is doing a good job of alienating the very ones who got him elected. I hope he keeps going with this. Liberals are proving once again to a new generation why they are stupid.

Moby
10-26-2009, 07:32 AM
But FOX is laughing all the way to the bank....

So did Halliburton, Saudi Arabia and AL Qaeda during the last administration. Are you proud of that too?

Moby
10-26-2009, 07:34 AM
A bunch of independents watch Fox and BO is doing a good job of alienating the very ones who got him elected.
Anyone that can think for themselves has followed the money and the careers of the Fox hounds. I sometimes watch Fox news only to see what new NLP and marketing techniques are being used. 30 years from now if America is still a democracy what's happening at Fox news will be in text books on programming and brainwashing people.

MintJulep
10-26-2009, 09:56 AM
So did Halliburton, Saudi Arabia and AL Qaeda during the last administration. Are you proud of that too?What does that have to do with the War on Fox by the government?

This is about the White House criticizing and influencing the press.

Again

You don't have a problem with that?

GetAClue
10-26-2009, 11:18 AM
This story assumes that people are just stupid and can't think for themselves.
If they think the White House can convince anybody of anything they are crazy.

Anybody that can think for themselves will watch Fox and make up thier own minds.
Being as that assumption turned out to be a reality for more than half of the voters last year, it must be true to a certain extent.

Smurf-Herder
10-26-2009, 11:51 AM
Anyone that can think for themselves has followed the money and the careers of the Fox hounds. I sometimes watch Fox news only to see what new NLP and marketing techniques are being used. 30 years from now if America is still a democracy what's happening at Fox news will be in text books on programming and brainwashing people.

Anyone who can "really" think for themselves has followed the money and the careers of Obama organizations and advisors. And as to NLP techniques, you really need to follow up on Obama's Behavioral Science advisors and the book "Nudge", by one of his czars; if you really want to know where state-of-the-art NLP is today.