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Global Crier
10-24-2009, 10:49 PM
The Goldstone United Nations report has hit a nerve with the Israeli government because it high-lights one piece of the truth that has gone on for decades. The true facts on the ground and the realities of truth are clearly in the Palestinian people’s favor. United States Ambassador Susan Rice called for the an end to “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks at the United Nation in Jerusalem while the United States-European and the State of Israel play out two weeks of war games. The United States and the State of Israel are the master of mass media manipulation of the truth to cover their path of sins and crimes of the past. Prime Minister Netanyahu address to the United Nation in Sept. 2009 epitomizes this so well. Talking about the Goldstone Report, Holocaust and the Islamic terrorists as Israeli’s right to do anything to defend her self.
What the State of Israel has done in the name of defense is to create a Slowocaust with a very sophisticated high tech military industrial complex over the last sixty years. Today it is only Israelis that can make better military hardware and software than the United States military industrial complex. For two weeks they will test the software and hardware of these missiles near Gaza and the West Bank where the Palestinian people have been living imprisoned under Israel military control for years. So something as simple as a plane helicopter, or jet flying over head has a totally different meaning and feeling that someone who lives under imprisoned occupation for so long.
The latest military actions the State of Israel that has done outside borders of Israel proper must be investigated and those worthy of trial must be tried before the International Court of Law. Including the bombings, military attacks and occupation of Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, West Bank and Iran. Only after the State of Israel has been held accountable for its illegal military and social action against the Palestinian people and dramatic internal political changes are made. Then the State of Israel should be respected as South Africa and Germany are today within the global community of nations.
So if United States Ambassador Susan Rice wants to bring an end to the “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks by the international community of nations. Have the United States government put the pressure on the government of Israel to change her evil ways of today and to make amends with the Palestinian people. The transformation of Germany and South Africa would have never taken place without the global international pressure being applied. The same kind of international pressure has to be applied on the State of Israel to make the reforms that are needed to gain acceptance and respect within the international community of nations.
http://peacereform.blogspot.com/

disrupter
10-24-2009, 11:07 PM
If Ms. Rice doesn't like the anti-Israel vitriol she should stop Israel from hijacking US foreign policy.

Goldstone was on Bill Moyers last night.
He does a really good job finding balance.
He talks about civilian terrorism based on Hamas [other?] rockets fired on civilians in Israel.
He talks about all the war criminal actions of Israel inflicting collective punishment on Palestinian civilians & all the infrastructure they depend on for life & reasonable living.

Hey Ms. Rice, Charge the Israelis guilty of spying on the US & caught red handed at it. As per Jane Harman & the NSA's illegal phonetap used to blackmail her into supporting that very same illegal wiretapping against innocent US citizens.

The phone call was Harman being asked to help cover up Israeli spying on our nation.
These Israeli spys promised her a committee chairmanship if she would.

Mother of GOD! Israel is controlling committee chairmanships in the god damned US government!

I am so fucking pissed.
Israel can barbecue in hell for eternity, after the small minority of decent Israelis is allowed to leave.

mtz
10-25-2009, 01:41 AM
Heh...

I think I remember all of this happening before...about 70 years ago.

Global Crier
10-25-2009, 12:14 PM
Link to Bill Moyers interview with Justice Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10232009/watch.html

Boogie man
10-25-2009, 12:25 PM
Neighborhood Bully

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.

He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.

Bob Dylan

disrupter
10-26-2009, 01:20 AM
The boogie man supports bullies,

WAR CRIMINAL bullies.

boogie man needs to join the lineup of those charged with treason.

Bill Cosby
10-26-2009, 01:28 AM
Link to Bill Moyers interview with Justice Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10232009/watch.html

Awesome clip I remember that one......... :thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
10-26-2009, 01:30 AM
The boogie man supports bullies,

WAR CRIMINAL bullies.

boogie man needs to join the lineup of those charged with treason.

He merely quoted a Dylan song.....
Make him lay out his opinion & solutions............

If he doesn't agree say it- & back it up...:thumbsup:

disrupter
10-26-2009, 01:37 AM
You can't get blood out of a turnip.

The rabid right does not exist on logic, ethics & critical thinking.

They are dogs, who operate on rabid instincts.
Who leave a trail of stinking dog shit for someone else to clean up.

disrupter
10-26-2009, 01:41 AM
That Dylan song is a very confused nightmare.
Intermingling/confusing the dispossessed with bullies.
Emotional schlock garbage, even though i understand we over iconcize & simplify many things.

Dylan is probably a complete fabricated phony, but i never paid that much attention anyway.

Not a Dylan fan.

Looking at those lyrics, i believe my instincts were correct, lol.

disrupter
10-26-2009, 01:44 AM
but what else would i expect from the right wing nutcases?

Emotional schlock garbage, because intellect they don't got.

they try to snag you with gush, to hook you into bizarre nonsense.

When i need nonsense in can do my own, & i will know clearly & unambiguously it is nonsense, without their deceptions to the contrary.

Bill Cosby
10-26-2009, 01:48 AM
You are a smart guy- he is a dog... How hard can it be???

He has said nothing...... = Nuthin!!!

Global Crier
10-27-2009, 05:47 PM
HUMAN RIGHTS IN PALESTINE AND OTHER
OCCUPIED ARAB TERRITORIES
Report of the United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict
otherwise known as the Goldstone Report
link
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

This should only be the beginning investigation to the Slowocaust of the Palestinian people. For over sixty years the Palestinian people have been suffering from the Israeli government’s actions and policies with this report investigating only sixteen out of thousands of other crimes against humanity and war crimes.

disrupter
10-27-2009, 07:11 PM
I can support a decent Israel, even as a predominantly Jewish state on land previously owned by others,

but when it acts in a wildly, obscene, war criminal disproportionality?

It should not be accepted as a nation.

If Israel can not be satisfied with current boundaries as they are & allowing some kind of Palestinian state to exist along side it,

I will not stand for my US tax dollars [3 Billion$/year] to support another war criminal regime like Saddam's Iraq, or the Shah's Iran, or Marco's Philippines, Noriega's Panama.

the current right wing extremists running Israel are dirt bag war criminals,
using Palestinians as test pigs to test & inflict advanced weaponry.
I suspect some of that may be US advanced weaponry, which means we have traitors we need to string up in this nation.

Hey Miz Rice, where is the OUTRAGE at using innocent Palestinians to test Pentagon weaponry on?

You are sick & need a reality check woman.

BlackAsCoal
10-28-2009, 03:04 PM
The Goldstone United Nations report has hit a nerve with the Israeli government because it high-lights one piece of the truth that has gone on for decades. The true facts on the ground and the realities of truth are clearly in the Palestinian people’s favor. United States Ambassador Susan Rice called for the an end to “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks at the United Nation in Jerusalem while the United States-European and the State of Israel play out two weeks of war games. The United States and the State of Israel are the master of mass media manipulation of the truth to cover their path of sins and crimes of the past. Prime Minister Netanyahu address to the United Nation in Sept. 2009 epitomizes this so well. Talking about the Goldstone Report, Holocaust and the Islamic terrorists as Israeli’s right to do anything to defend her self.
What the State of Israel has done in the name of defense is to create a Slowocaust with a very sophisticated high tech military industrial complex over the last sixty years. Today it is only Israelis that can make better military hardware and software than the United States military industrial complex. For two weeks they will test the software and hardware of these missiles near Gaza and the West Bank where the Palestinian people have been living imprisoned under Israel military control for years. So something as simple as a plane helicopter, or jet flying over head has a totally different meaning and feeling that someone who lives under imprisoned occupation for so long.
The latest military actions the State of Israel that has done outside borders of Israel proper must be investigated and those worthy of trial must be tried before the International Court of Law. Including the bombings, military attacks and occupation of Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, West Bank and Iran. Only after the State of Israel has been held accountable for its illegal military and social action against the Palestinian people and dramatic internal political changes are made. Then the State of Israel should be respected as South Africa and Germany are today within the global community of nations.
So if United States Ambassador Susan Rice wants to bring an end to the “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks by the international community of nations. Have the United States government put the pressure on the government of Israel to change her evil ways of today and to make amends with the Palestinian people. The transformation of Germany and South Africa would have never taken place without the global international pressure being applied. The same kind of international pressure has to be applied on the State of Israel to make the reforms that are needed to gain acceptance and respect within the international community of nations.
http://peacereform.blogspot.com/

Good thoughts .. but as long as Washington, DC remains Israeli-occupied territory .. there is no chance of any change coming about.

Bill Cosby
10-28-2009, 07:02 PM
I think change can come about & will @ some point.....

disrupter
10-28-2009, 08:48 PM
Not if Israel never acknowledges its atrocities & horrible civil rights abuses against Palestinians.

Abusive Addicts never change their behavior until someone or something drags them to task.

Bill Cosby
10-28-2009, 10:15 PM
Well I find much of the abuse & death needless, senseless & often time intentionally provocative, looking @ it on/from a grander scale it can & will be forgiven...

They/like US have a very strong military industrial complex & for the most part right wing leaning media...

Haartez & a few other exceptions......

Remember it was not that long ago that the real MODERN "aXis of evil= USA, Israel & the union of south africa were against the world.......>>> One third of that has now gone over to "our side"........lol

Hey we are winning.......... :banana: :kiss:

:D

Bill Cosby
10-28-2009, 10:17 PM
& it will be folks like that help it come about.... :thumbsup:

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