Free Press 1; obama 0

[Frankg]

obama has no self-control and on top of that he can't take critisizm.

Freedom of the Press ? Hello !!!!!!

President George W Bush could've pulled the trigger on NBC, CBS, ABC , MSNBC for down-playing victories in Iraq by the US and overplaying the victories by enemy but he didn't , he could've had the NY Times investigated for treason for publisizing secret terrorist bank account monitoring operations but he didn't , because President Bush was smart enough to realize that it meant nothing , however our current thin skinned president just can't stand the fact that FOX NEWS does't think he is the second coming of christ and is not kissing his ass for all his failures so far.

Histrory shows that in the past when the white house goes to war with the media the white house will loose.
Administration Loses Bid to Exclude Fox News From Pay Czar Interview

The Obama administration on Thursday tried to make "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg available for interviews to every member of the White House pool except Fox News. But the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks decided that none of their reporters would interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included.

The Obama administration on Thursday failed in its attempt to exclude Fox News from participating in an interview of an administration official, as Republicans on Capitol Hill stepped up their criticism of the hardball tactics employed by the White House.

The Treasury Department on Thursday tried to make "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg available for interviews to every member of the network pool except Fox News.

The pool is the five-network rotation that for decades has shared the costs and duties of daily coverage of the presidency and other Washington institutions.

But the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks consulted and decided that none of their reporters would interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included. The pool informed Treasury that Fox News, as a member of the network pool, could not be excluded from such interviews under the rules of the pool.

The administration relented, making Feinberg available for all five pool members and Bloomberg TV.

The pushback came after White House senior adviser David Axelrod told ABC News' "This Week" on Sunday that Fox News is not a real news organization and other news networks "ought not to treat them that way."

Media analysts cheered the decision to boycott the Feinberg interview unless Fox News was included, saying the administration's gambit was taking its feud with Fox News too far. President Obama has already declined to go on "Fox News Sunday," even while appearing on the other Sunday shows.

"I'm really cheered by the other members saying "No, if Fox can't be part of it, we won't be part of it,'" said Baltimore Sun TV critic David Zurawik, calling the move to limit Feinberg's availability "outrageous."

"What it's really about to me is the Executive Branch of the government trying to tell the press how it should behave. I mean, this democracy -- we know this -- only works with a free and unfettered press to provide information," he said.

Several top White House advisers have appeared on other news channels to criticize Fox News' coverage of the administration, dismiss the network as the mouthpiece of the Republican Party and urge other news organizations not to treat Fox News as a legitimate news network.

On Wednesday, Obama, speaking publicly for the first time about his administration's portrayal of Fox News as illegitimate, said he's not "losing sleep" over the controversy.

"I think that what our advisers simply said is, is that we are going to take media as it comes," Obama said when asked about his advisers targeting the network openly. "And if media is operating, basically, as a talk radio format, then that's one thing. And if it's operating as a news outlet, then that's another. But it's not something I'm losing a lot of sleep over."

Obama's comments also came after he met Monday with political commentators Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow of MSNBC; Eugene Robinson and E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post; Ron Brownstein of the National Journal; John Dickerson of Slate; Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd and Bob Herbert of the New York Times; Jerry Seib of the Wall Street Journal, Gloria Borger of CNN and U.S. News and World Report, and Gwen Ifill of PBS.
House Republican leaders rushed to the defense of conservative commentators Thursday after the president's comments.

Rep. Mike Pence, chairman of the House Republican Conference, said conservative commentators speak more for Americans than the national media outlets that have targeted them for criticism.

"Goaded on by a White House increasingly intolerant of criticism, lately the national media has taken aim at conservative commentators in radio and television," the Indiana Republican said on the House floor. "Suggesting that they only speak for a small group of activists and even suggesting in one report today that Republicans in Washington are 'worried about their electoral effect.' Well, that's hogwash."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/23/white-house-loses-bid-exclude-fox-news-pay-czar-interview/

[Cookie]

As the mentor and pastor of Obama once said, and which now applies to him and his supporters, "the chickens are comin' home to roost."

Almost daily, Obama's inexperience and inepitude is showing. What the conservatives knew, and what the dems are finding out, he's an ideologue, not a leader. One of his ideals, is a fully censored press, where all negative flubs and gaffes from his administration (and party) are silenced, erased.

It ought to scare the shit out of everyone; wake them up as to what Obama is really about. It sure as hell isn't freedom.
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[foxbaron]

As the mentor and pastor of Obama once said, and which now applies to him and his supporters, "the chickens are comin' home to roost."

Almost daily, Obama's inexperience and inepitude is showing. What the conservatives knew, and what the dems are finding out, he's an ideologue, not a leader. One of his ideals, is a fully censored press, where all negative flubs and gaffes from his administration (and party) are silenced, erased.

It ought to scare the shit out of everyone; wake them up as to what Obama is really about. It sure as hell isn't freedom.

It's really not so much what Obama is about it's more about the advisers surrounding him and their intentions. He only does they direct him to do as he is not his own man, he is their puppet.

[Boogie man]

This administration is a joke.

I'm embarrassed to be an American.

[bairdi]

Obama vs. FOX

By Frank Schaeffer

President Obama is getting criticism for going after Fox News. I fault the White House too: for not going far enough. The real issue is not Fox's right wing "bias." The real issue is that FOX News seems to be trawling for assassins. Here's the letter White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs should write. Or maybe it should come from the head of United States Secret Service.

Dear Rupert Murdoch, since you are responsible for what is on Fox News I have a question for you: Do you ever wonder how you'll be remembered by Americans and the world (not to mention your children) if someone takes a shot at President Obama, and when asked why they did it, quotes the misinformation spouted by Fox News as their "reason?"

You have dozens of far right and dangerous and/or crazy seeming commentators working for you but let’s just talk about one as an example of the rest. What of Glenn Beck?

Does the name Father Charles Coughlin ring a bell? Do you want to be remembered as the facilitator of today's version of that deranged radio personality and hater who hounded President Roosevelt? What if a Coughlin devotee had assassinated Roosevelt? Instead of just being a nasty footnote to American history, Coughlin would be remembered as another John Wilkes Booth. What if Coughlin had had someone with money and virtually unlimited influence backing him and amplifying his remarks? How would we feel about his backer?

Glenn Beck is a second rate, not terribly bright Coughlin-type demagogue with rather dimwitted followers. And you are the paymaster making his silliness dangerous by giving him a voice that would otherwise be heard only by those who happened to hear him barking at the moon on some lonely street corner.

You've given today's Coughlins -- the haters -- a national platform. And they have taken the lies of the "birthers", "deathers", "Obama-is-the-Antichristers" etc., nationwide. It was a bad day for America when you became a citizen for the sole purpose of purchasing TV stations and invading us with your far right agenda. But you've gone way past politics, even the politics of hate. You have legitimized actual insanity by widespread repetition of extremist racist and religion-based lies to the sort of people who believe the earth is 6000 years old, that Jesus will come back soon and send everyone not like them to Hell, that Obama is the Antichrist. In other words, you've got the keys to the national asylum, are stirring up the inmates and threatening to unlock the door!

Here's a sample (compiled with the help of Media Matters and the online magazine Crooks and Liars) of just a small stock of the incendiary rhetoric and bare-faced lies your money pays for.

Fox News host Glenn Beck has:

# said President Obama has, "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture,"

# flirted with the idea that FEMA is building detention camps,

# suggested that President Obama is purposefully "tanking" the economy to force young people to work for AmeriCorps,

# said that Obama is "moving us away from our republic and into a system of fascism,"

# stated: "We are a country that is headed towards socialism, totalitarianism, beyond your wildest imagination..."

# says Obama "Wants you to work as a bureaucratic slave to government."

# said: "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? For the love of Pete, what are you doing? Do you not hear -- do you not hear the cries of people who are saying stop? We would like some sanity in our country for a second! We didn't vote to lose the republic."

# ran several segments, including one on his radio show, promoting the concept of the secession of Texas from the Union,

# promotes "one world government" paranoia, including a supposed plot to put us all on a global currency controlled by the New World Order,

# warned his audience about Obama's supposed secret plot to grab our guns,

# speculated that it is actually liberal "political correctness" that inspires right-wingers to go on murderous killing rampages...

Rupert Murdoch; is there a limit? If Beck was shrieking, "Kill the uppity nigger in the White House!" would that be okay too? Would it be any more of an incitement to violence than what Beck is saying now?

You can't claim you're not having a baleful impact. How about this? According to the Boston Globe ("Secret Service Strained" October 18, 09),

The unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama, a rise in racist hate groups, and a new wave of antigovernment fervor threaten to overwhelm the US Secret Service, according to government officials and reports, raising new questions about the 144-year-old agency’s overall mission.

Where is this "new wave of antigovernment fervor" coming from? Media barons have started a war or two before but I don't recall one fomenting the climate wherein an assassination attempt becomes virtually inevitable. Far fetched? Who stirred up that nut in Pittsburgh who shot down three police officers because he believed that Obama was going to order cops to take away his guns?

Don't you know that here in America we have a rather large angry far right well-armed subculture thriving on imagined insults and nursing a perpetual grievance against the "other"? Don't you have any qualms about feeding them the red meat of hate, lies and incitement?

However you got to this point, you still have a choice: reign in FOX News, fire Beck, speak out to undo some of the lies you have told through your people about our President, our country and the world, or go down in history as the man who fed the unhinged haters lies until one or more of them boiled over in some desperate act and lashed out.

You are playing Russian roulette with American history. When your name is forever linked to an act of history-derailing domestic terror your billions won't save you from the place in history reserved for a select group of monsters. When your name is linked to our next Oklahoma-type bombing or the killing of one of our elected leaders, nothing else you did in your life will be remembered.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/47194

[Parade Rain]

obama has no self-control and on top of that he can't take critisizm.

Freedom of the Press ? Hello !!!!!!

President George W Bush could've pulled the trigger on NBC, CBS, ABC , MSNBC for down-playing victories in Iraq by the US and overplaying the victories by enemy but he didn't , he could've had the NY Times investigated for treason for publisizing secret terrorist bank account monitoring operations but he didn't , because President Bush was smart enough to realize that it meant nothing , however our current thin skinned president just can't stand the fact that FOX NEWS does't think he is the second coming of christ and is not kissing his ass for all his failures so far.

Histrory shows that in the past when the white house goes to war with the media the white house will loose.


...to say nothing of the punctuation errors, run-on sentences and butchered syntax....what a "moran" :lmao2: :lmao2:

[gOd]

...to say nothing of the punctuation errors, run-on sentences and butchered syntax....what a "moran" :lmao2: :lmao2:
Voters should be required to pass a standard aptitude test.

[Boogie man]

...to say nothing of the punctuation errors, run-on sentences and butchered syntax....what a "moran" :lmao2: :lmao2:

Why don't you make a counterpoint. This isn't a critique on puntuation site.

[Boogie man]

Voters should be required to pass a standard aptitude test.

I wholeheartedly agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

[Parade Rain]

Why don't you make a counterpoint. This isn't a critique on puntuation site.

Because certain "points" are so asinine on their face that it's a waste. You idiots and your 'Obama is a dicatator' and 'Obama wants to kill freedom of the press'.

Never mind the payola, the fake news pieces, the taxpayer-funded PR campaign to sell the Iraq War, the freezing out of any journal or journalist who didn't tow the Bush line for eight long, failure-riddled years - all of that was okay with you people.

No, I won't counter this horseshit. You people are fucking imbeciles. BLINDLY LOYAL imbeciles.

[gOd]

I wholeheartedly agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8
So should elected officials and candidates.

http://news.makemeheal.com/images/sarah-palin-vogue.jpg

[Boogie man]

Because certain "points" are so asinine on their face that it's a waste. You idiots and your 'Obama is a dicatator' and 'Obama wants to kill freedom of the press'.

Never mind the payola, the fake news pieces, the taxpayer-funded PR campaign to sell the Iraq War, the freezing out of anyone who didn't tow the Bush line for eight long, failure-riddled years - all of that was okay with you people.

No, I won't counter this horseshit. You people are fucking imbeciles. BLINDLY LOYAL imbeciles.

Bush is no longer the President. Looks like you're the fucking imbecile who is BLINDLY LOYAL.

[Boogie man]

So should elected officials and candidates.

http://news.makemeheal.com/images/sarah-palin-vogue.jpg

Beautiful smart woman. A typical female conservative.

[gOd]

Beautiful smart woman. A typical female conservative.
Um...she thought Africa was a country. :lmao2:

[slowhand]

Bush is no longer the President. Looks like you're the fucking imbecile who is BLINDLY LOYAL.

Thats a good thing..Four more years of that asshole, and the Unites States would be a Third World country

[Parade Rain]

Bush is no longer the President. Looks like you're the fucking imbecile who is BLINDLY LOYAL.

Nice try, ass. I didn't vote for Obama. You voted for and supported Bush.

And all of your lame-ass posts here are a regurgitation of whatever knuckle-dragger you listened to on Fox today.

And no, I won't *explain* to you why or how I arrived at that assessment. :D

[Parade Rain]

Beautiful smart woman. A typical female conservative.


:lmao2: :lmao2:

I rest my case.

[slowhand]

Beautiful smart woman. A typical female conservative.

A regular genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d91brDnt7A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d91brDnt7A)

[Boogie man]

Nice try, ass. I didn't vote for Obama. You voted for and supported Bush.

And all of your lame-ass posts here are a regurgitation of whatever knuckle-dragger you listened to on Fox today.

And no, I won't *explain* to you why or how I arrived at that assessment. :D

Oh go fuck yourself you pusillanimous pissant prarie punk. No one cares what you do or what you think. You're nothing but a lame ass dumb punk.

[Parade Rain]

Oh go fuck yourself you pusillanimous pissant prarie punk. No one cares what you do or what you think. You're nothing but a lame ass dumb punk.


No thank you, I think I'll stay right here at this silly soiree and continue to shoot holes in your idiocy. Thanks!

[Boogie man]

No thank you, I think I'll stay right here at this silly soiree and continue to shoot holes in your idiocy. Thanks!

The only holes are the ones in your head. You never have a persuasive arguement or counterpoint. All you do is toss your lame juvenile insults. You're just another turd from the herd.

[Parade Rain]

The only holes are the ones in your head. You never have a persuasive arguement or counterpoint. All you do is toss your lame juvenile insults. You're just another turd from the herd.

When you start making a decent argument based on factual information and not propagandistic bullshit, it'll be worth 'countering'. Until then, I will reply to the 'turds' you call an argument any way I choose. Your crap isn't worthy of a response any more substantive than what you're getting. The bar is low for you cretins because your standards, double-standards, hypocrisy and ethics are in the toilet. You're getting exactly what you deserve. Go INFORM yourself, idiot - THEN see if you might actually have a seat at the table with the smart people.

[John Galt]

When you start making a decent argument based on factual information and not propagandistic bullshit, it'll be worth 'countering'. Until then, I will reply to the 'turds' you call an argument any way I choose. Your crap isn't worthy of a response any more substantive than what you're getting. The bar is low for you cretins because your standards, double-standards, hypocrisy and ethics are in the toilet. You're getting exactly what you deserve. Go INFORM yourself, idiot - THEN see if you might actually have a seat at the table with the smart people.
Good luck with that.

[Frankg]

Obama vs. FOX

By Frank Schaeffer

President Obama is getting criticism for going after Fox News. I fault the White House too: for not going far enough. The real issue is not Fox's right wing "bias." The real issue is that FOX News seems to be trawling for assassins. Here's the letter White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs should write. Or maybe it should come from the head of United States Secret Service.

Dear Rupert Murdoch, since you are responsible for what is on Fox News I have a question for you: Do you ever wonder how you'll be remembered by Americans and the world (not to mention your children) if someone takes a shot at President Obama, and when asked why they did it, quotes the misinformation spouted by Fox News as their "reason?"

You have dozens of far right and dangerous and/or crazy seeming commentators working for you but let’s just talk about one as an example of the rest. What of Glenn Beck?

Does the name Father Charles Coughlin ring a bell? Do you want to be remembered as the facilitator of today's version of that deranged radio personality and hater who hounded President Roosevelt? What if a Coughlin devotee had assassinated Roosevelt? Instead of just being a nasty footnote to American history, Coughlin would be remembered as another John Wilkes Booth. What if Coughlin had had someone with money and virtually unlimited influence backing him and amplifying his remarks? How would we feel about his backer?

Glenn Beck is a second rate, not terribly bright Coughlin-type demagogue with rather dimwitted followers. And you are the paymaster making his silliness dangerous by giving him a voice that would otherwise be heard only by those who happened to hear him barking at the moon on some lonely street corner.

You've given today's Coughlins -- the haters -- a national platform. And they have taken the lies of the "birthers", "deathers", "Obama-is-the-Antichristers" etc., nationwide. It was a bad day for America when you became a citizen for the sole purpose of purchasing TV stations and invading us with your far right agenda. But you've gone way past politics, even the politics of hate. You have legitimized actual insanity by widespread repetition of extremist racist and religion-based lies to the sort of people who believe the earth is 6000 years old, that Jesus will come back soon and send everyone not like them to Hell, that Obama is the Antichrist. In other words, you've got the keys to the national asylum, are stirring up the inmates and threatening to unlock the door!

Here's a sample (compiled with the help of Media Matters and the online magazine Crooks and Liars) of just a small stock of the incendiary rhetoric and bare-faced lies your money pays for.

Fox News host Glenn Beck has:

# said President Obama has, "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture,"

# flirted with the idea that FEMA is building detention camps,

# suggested that President Obama is purposefully "tanking" the economy to force young people to work for AmeriCorps,

# said that Obama is "moving us away from our republic and into a system of fascism,"

# stated: "We are a country that is headed towards socialism, totalitarianism, beyond your wildest imagination..."

# says Obama "Wants you to work as a bureaucratic slave to government."

# said: "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? For the love of Pete, what are you doing? Do you not hear -- do you not hear the cries of people who are saying stop? We would like some sanity in our country for a second! We didn't vote to lose the republic."

# ran several segments, including one on his radio show, promoting the concept of the secession of Texas from the Union,

# promotes "one world government" paranoia, including a supposed plot to put us all on a global currency controlled by the New World Order,

# warned his audience about Obama's supposed secret plot to grab our guns,

# speculated that it is actually liberal "political correctness" that inspires right-wingers to go on murderous killing rampages...

Rupert Murdoch; is there a limit? If Beck was shrieking, "Kill the uppity nigger in the White House!" would that be okay too? Would it be any more of an incitement to violence than what Beck is saying now?

You can't claim you're not having a baleful impact. How about this? According to the Boston Globe ("Secret Service Strained" October 18, 09),

The unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama, a rise in racist hate groups, and a new wave of antigovernment fervor threaten to overwhelm the US Secret Service, according to government officials and reports, raising new questions about the 144-year-old agency’s overall mission.

Where is this "new wave of antigovernment fervor" coming from? Media barons have started a war or two before but I don't recall one fomenting the climate wherein an assassination attempt becomes virtually inevitable. Far fetched? Who stirred up that nut in Pittsburgh who shot down three police officers because he believed that Obama was going to order cops to take away his guns?

Don't you know that here in America we have a rather large angry far right well-armed subculture thriving on imagined insults and nursing a perpetual grievance against the "other"? Don't you have any qualms about feeding them the red meat of hate, lies and incitement?

However you got to this point, you still have a choice: reign in FOX News, fire Beck, speak out to undo some of the lies you have told through your people about our President, our country and the world, or go down in history as the man who fed the unhinged haters lies until one or more of them boiled over in some desperate act and lashed out.

You are playing Russian roulette with American history. When your name is forever linked to an act of history-derailing domestic terror your billions won't save you from the place in history reserved for a select group of monsters. When your name is linked to our next Oklahoma-type bombing or the killing of one of our elected leaders, nothing else you did in your life will be remembered.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/47194

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

I thought one of the main concepts of liberlism was "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" ?

obama sure blew that one out the water didn't he bairdi ?

The white house cannot win against the media which was pretty obvious during President George W Bush's administration.

obama is going to have to battle the first admendment in addition if he goes after O'Reilly and Beck than he has to go afte Oberman and Mattews because they are equally bias commentators but they are editorialists , they don't report the news.

Apprarently freedom of the press only applies if you're in the tank for for big ears.

We have a thinned skinned , spineless president who is not qualified and should be impeached immediately.

[gOd]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

I thought one of the main concepts of liberlism was "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" ?

obama sure blew that one out the water didn't he bairdi ?

The white house cannot win against the media which was pretty obvious during President George W Bush's administration.

obama is going to have to battle the first admendment in addition if he goes after O'Reilly and Beck than he has to go afte Oberman and Mattews because they are equally bias commentators but they are editorialists , they don't report the news.

Apprarently freedom of the press only applies if you're in the tank for for big ears.

We have a thinned skinned , spineless president who is not qualified and should be impeached immediately.Is it just my imagination, or do you make the exact same linguistic mistakes as Wayers?

[Boogie man]

When you start making a decent argument based on factual information and not propagandistic bullshit, it'll be worth 'countering'. Until then, I will reply to the 'turds' you call an argument any way I choose. Your crap isn't worthy of a response any more substantive than what you're getting. The bar is low for you cretins because your standards, double-standards, hypocrisy and ethics are in the toilet. You're getting exactly what you deserve. Go INFORM yourself, idiot - THEN see if you might actually have a seat at the table with the smart people.

I think we all can pretty much agree that your lame excuses for not replying are wearing pretty thin. Calling posts crap and unworty of a response looks like nothing more than a lame excuse for ignorance on your part. You keep on keeping on with that.

[Parade Rain]

I think we all can pretty much agree

Who would *we* be, "boogie man"? All the other accounts you have here?

YAWN

[Boogie man]

Who would *we* be, "boogie man"? All the other accounts you have here?

YAWN

"We" would be you and me. If you don't agree with that then post a counterpoint instead of your usual excuse of "it's unworty of a reply" crap. That's just lame. Do you really think anyone is buying that? Show us how intelligent you are. You're obviously more intelligent than me so prove it. bury me with your superior intellect instead of your lame excuses.

[Parade Rain]

"We" would be you and me. If you don't agree with that then post a counterpoint instead of your usual excuse of "it's unworty of a reply" crap. That's just lame. Do you really think anyone is buying that? Show us how intelligent you are. You're obviously more intelligent than me so prove it. bury me with your superior intellect instead of you lame excuses.

I don't need to show you or anyone else. You're a rhetoric-spewing, righty-propaganda-spreading idiot. I'm not wasting my time attempting to 'debate' you over such idiotic horseshit as that which you keep posting. Don't like it? Too bad.

[Boogie man]

I don't need to show you or anyone else. You're a rhetoric-spewing, righty-propaganda-spreading idiot. I'm not wasting my time attempting to 'debate' you over such idiotic horseshit as that which you keep posting. Don't like it? Too bad.

Then why don't you start a thread of your own for us to debate?

[Parade Rain]

Then why don't you start a thread of your own for us to debate?

I have my own forum for that.

[Boogie man]

I have my own forum for that.

Give me the link so I can join you and you can kick my butt.

[Parade Rain]

Give me the link so I can join you and you can kick my butt.

Registrations are currently closed. But you're free to check us out as a guest.

www.rumblevillains.com

[Boogie man]

Registrations are currently closed. But you're free to check us out as a guest.

www.rumblevillains.com

LOL. You really are a pathetic little coward.

[Parade Rain]

LOL. You really are a pathetic little coward.

And your opinion of me might matter if you weren't right-wing imbecile.

[Boogie man]

And your opinion of me might matter if you weren't right-wing imbecile.

I read the rules at your site. You're a coward and your forum rules prove it. That's not my opinion. Anyone who reads the rules at your site can see it for themselves.

You're an ignorant coward. I bet you're a pacifist.

[Parade Rain]

I read the rules at your site. You're a coward and your forum rules prove it. That's not my opinion. Anyone who reads the rules at your site can see it for themselves.

You're an ignorant coward.

Maybe if you say I'm a coward a few more times you'll feel better? :lmao2:

[Boogie man]

Maybe if you say I'm a coward a few more times you'll feel better? :lmao2:

Are you a pacifist?

[Parade Rain]

Are you a pacifist?

No, I'm an ignorant coward, remember? And a pusillanimous pissant punk. :lmao2:

[Boogie man]

No, I'm an ignorant coward, remember? And a pusillanimous pissant punk. :lmao2:

Admitting it is the first step to recovery. I'm proud of you.

[GetAClue]

Um...she thought Africa was a country. :lmao2:
Yea, almost as bad as visiting the 57 state capitals. :lmao2:

[MichMike]

Yea, almost as bad as visiting the 57 state capitals. :lmao2:

Or almost as bad as thinking Libertarianism can work

:lmao2:

[GetAClue]

Or almost as bad as thinking Libertarianism can work

:lmao2:
And who thinks that?