Republican Gomorrah: Max Blumenthal

[Bill Cosby]

Listen up (http://fora.tv/2009/09/29/Republican_Gomorrah_Max_Blumenthal)

.................:thumbsup:

[Boogie man]

LOL. Funny stuff. I especially love the "hateful right wing" stuff. In my experidence, i see far more hatred, racist words, and dishonesty on the "hateful left wing". But, that's just me.

[Bill Cosby]

LOL. Funny stuff. I especially love the "hateful right wing" stuff. In my experidence, i see far more hatred, racist words, and dishonesty on the "hateful left wing". But, that's just me.

Sure it is............ :lmao2:

& I guess it will remain so till you start posting some actual evidence..:thumbsup:

[Boogie man]

Sure it is............ :lmao2:

& I guess it will remain so till you start posting some actual evidence..:thumbsup:

Pelosi calling patriotic Americans Nazis.

Keith Olbermann calling Michelle Malkin a big mashed up bag of flesh with lipstick on it".

The hate campaign against Sarah Palin by the left.

Obama attacking insurance companies. Obama attacking doctors by saying they do operations just to get more money from Medicare.

Harry Reid saying the war in Iraq is lost.

Murtha calling our soldiers murderers. Kerry calling our soldiers terrorists. Durbin saying our soldiers in Gitmo were like nazis.

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure you can come up with some from the right also. My point is that when you say one side is hateful, you better be prepared to take the log out of your own eye before you complain about the splinter in someone elses.

The problem with these kinds of "speeches" is that they can stand up there and say whatever they want without being challenged. Kinda like what Keith Olbermann does every pathetic night after night. Bring on people who agree with you and no one who will ever challenge your view. Any fool can do that.

[Bill Cosby]

oberman, harry reid, santa clause & bat boy...:hi:

Post the links to what they actually said so I & others here can read what they actually said & in context.......... & then I will be happy to comment on it.... :D

[Boogie man]

oberman, harry reid, santa clause & bat boy...:hi:

Post the links to what they actually said so I & others here can read what they actually said & in context.......... & then I will be happy to comment on it.... :D

Here is the Olbermann quote.

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2009/20091014053115.aspx

[disrupter]

I don't hate Sarah Palin.
What i hate is that the treacherous extremist right celebrates a dog-poop brain like hers.

She was an atrocious mayor but did do some good reform of corruption.
She has ZERO competent intellect.
She is all celebrity & no cerebrum.

Why waste time on someone who has yet to demonstrate command of ideas & thinking & has demonstrated weird psychotic derangement in her interview with Couric?

The right extreme in the US is dangerous & just plain unbelievably nutty.

[disrupter]

I will be waiting to see if Levi's moose meat diet & workout schedule produces positive results for his upcoming photo shoot. lol

[Brian-W]

Pelosi calling patriotic Americans Nazis.

Keith Olbermann calling Michelle Malkin a big mashed up bag of flesh with lipstick on it".

The hate campaign against Sarah Palin by the left.

Obama attacking insurance companies. Obama attacking doctors by saying they do operations just to get more money from Medicare.

Harry Reid saying the war in Iraq is lost.

Murtha calling our soldiers murderers. Kerry calling our soldiers terrorists. Durbin saying our soldiers in Gitmo were like nazis.

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure you can come up with some from the right also. My point is that when you say one side is hateful, you better be prepared to take the log out of your own eye before you complain about the splinter in someone elses.

The problem with these kinds of "speeches" is that they can stand up there and say whatever they want without being challenged. Kinda like what Keith Olbermann does every pathetic night after night. Bring on people who agree with you and no one who will ever challenge your view. Any fool can do that.

The right is just more subtle with their hatred. But it still exists.

These cowards at the teabagger rallies are just afraid to say what's REALLY on their minds in front of the camera.

I know plenty of them, and off camera, they say things that make your skin crawl.

[Boogie man]

Murtha accused American soldiers of murder. After they were cleared he never apologized. That is about as low as you can get.

[disrupter]

Brian-W, maybe it is because they are more ignorant & more smugly secure. They don't [currently] feel as threatened?

Or perhaps they are just practiced, polished, co-conspiring liars?

Maybe they are just not as excited, because they don't have anything worth being excited about.
All they have is old tired shit. lol

btw Booger man, part of a soldier's job definition is the ready trained capacity to commit murder.

[Boogie man]

Brian-W, maybe it is because they are more ignorant & more smugly secure. They don't [currently] feel as threatened?

Or perhaps they are just practiced, polished, co-conspiring liars?

Maybe they are just not as excited, because they don't have anything worth being excited about.
All they have is old tired shit. lol

btw Booger man, part of a soldier's job definition is the ready trained capacity to commit murder.

American soldiers are trained to commit murder? I'd like to see your evidence of that.

[Bill Cosby]

Here is the Olbermann quote.

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2009/20091014053115.aspx

ThnX for the link........ :thumbsup:

Some pretty rough stuff. SO is it wrong............. That is saying all that about ppl................???

Or is it only wrong when the "wrong ppl" do that to the "right ppl"....

Personally I don't watch any of the entertainers......... I guess cause I really don't GAF what they think or say..... But to me they are all pretty much the same regradless off their political/monetary leanings...

[disrupter]

WTF do you think war is Booger man?

Semi-organized mass murder.

My God, get a reality check guy.

[Boogie man]

WTF do you think war is Booger man?

Semi-organized mass murder.

My God, get a reality check guy.

You're confused about "reality" in my opinion. The American soldier is not trained to commit murder. You may think that is what they are doing, but the reality is they are not. There are established definitions in the reality we live in and American soldiers are not trained to commit murder. That is not anyone's reality except yours.

[Brian-W]

You're confused about "reality" in my opinion. The American soldier is not trained to commit murder. You may think that is what they are doing, but the reality is they are not. There are established definitions in the reality we live in and American soldiers are not trained to commit murder. That is not anyone's reality except yours.

Murder is in the eyes of the beholder.

Just because we can justify it doesn't mean it's not murder.

A mother grieves just as hard when their kid is killed, no matter if it's cold blooded, or collateral damage.

[Boogie man]

Murder is in the eyes of the beholder.

Just because we can justify it doesn't mean it's not murder.

A mother grieves just as hard when their kid is killed, no matter if it's cold blooded, or collateral damage.

You're also confused. Murder is not in the eyes of the beholder. The point is the definition, not whether a mother grieves or not. The entire family grieves when a person is killed in war or by murder. The definition of murder is the point.

American soldiers are not trained to murder as was stated earlier. That is the post I am addressing.

[Brian-W]

You're also confused. Murder is not in the eyes of the beholder. The point is the definition, not whether a mother grieves or not. The entire family grieves when a person is killed in war or by murder. The definition of murder is the point.

American soldiers are not trained to murder as was stated earlier. That is the post I am addressing.

Wow, you really ran in one big circle there didn't you?

When you train a man to be a killer and never train him how to turn that part of him off, you're playing with fire.

I can't even take my 7 year old daughter to the theatre to see "UP" without some military propaganda commercial before the feature showing two guys perched in a fucking snipers nest. She has a 14 year old half brother who already thinks he wants to be a "Navy Seal".

Our kids have no hope for a real future so the parents encourage them to just sign their life away to the federal government's murder machine. MAYBE they wont come home in a box because of some politicians bullshit cause.....But, that sign up bonus looks pretty sweet.

It all goes back to this paradox I see of conservatives not trusting the government, yet they put total faith in the military. Blows my freaking mind.

[Boogie man]

Wow, you really ran in one big circle there didn't you?

When you train a man to be a killer and never train him how to turn that part of him off, you're playing with fire.

I can't even take my 7 year old daughter to the theatre to see "UP" without some military propaganda commercial before the feature showing two guys perched in a fucking snipers nest. She has a 14 year old half brother who already thinks he wants to be a "Navy Seal".

Our kids have no hope for a real future so the parents encourage them to just sign their life away to the federal government's murder machine. MAYBE they wont come home in a box because of some politicians bullshit cause.....But, that sign up bonus looks pretty sweet.

It all goes back to this paradox I see of conservatives not trusting the government, yet they put total faith in the military. Blows my freaking mind.

You're also confused. The military is constitutional. Government control of people's lives is not.

I don't think fighting tyranny is a "bullshit cause". Which faction is your enemy, terrorism or conservatism?

[Brian-W]

You're also confused. The military is constitutional. Government control of people's lives is not.

I don't think fighting tyranny is a "bullshit cause". Which faction is your enemy, terrorism or conservatism?

I'm not confused about dick. Not anymore. At one point in my life I was probably naive about such issues. But I'm older and a little wiser and I know horseshit when I smell it.

Fighting Tyranny is the oldest excuse in the book. And the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing to do with fighting tyranny. They seem to be more about "payback" than anything else.

Lately, conservatism and terrorism seem almost indistinguishable.

[Bill Cosby]

I'm not confused about dick. Not anymore. At one point in my life I was probably naive about such issues. But I'm older and a little wiser and I know horseshit when I smell it.

Fighting Tyranny is the oldest excuse in the book. And the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing to do with fighting tyranny. They seem to be more about "payback" than anything else.

Lately, conservatism and terrorism seem almost indistinguishable.

Brian in the house... :banana:

I think he has a point but I agree it fails under a good sniff test…. Granted I am a pacifist now but I think there is certainly good precedent…

I have discussed this topic a few times but never to my satifaction….

????????????

If you & I beat this fool to death just for the hell of it, it would be straight up murder…. (no one in any civilization would disagree, I would think).

But, if the state said it was not only ok but our duty to kill fools like him (for whatever reason) then it is ok…???????????

idi amin & pol pot, hitler & stalin, mao, ordered the deaths of millions….. The shah, penochet, papa doc & papa assad………. Etc, etc, etc………

Wasn’t what they did often times, if not most of the time- straight up murder??? Albeit legalized……… By them???

[Brian-W]

Wasn’t what they did often times, if not most of the time- straight up murder??? Albeit legalized……… By them???

I'm sure Hitler and his administration just viewed what they did as capital punishment on a grand scale. I regularly hear some conservatard talking about how we should start having mass public executions and advocate sterilizing "drug addicts"

Every madman can justify his actions in his own mind.

As long as these strict laws affect someone else, they're ok with it. They would have no problem with a law denying people the right to worship Allah or Ram , but are the first to play the victim card when it comes to Jesus.

[Bill Cosby]

strict laws affect someone else,

I think that is a huge part of the key..... Apply it to them- NOT ME!!!

[Kanadesaga]

You're also confused. Murder is not in the eyes of the beholder. The point is the definition, not whether a mother grieves or not. The entire family grieves when a person is killed in war or by murder. The definition of murder is the point.

American soldiers are not trained to murder as was stated earlier. That is the post I am addressing.


American soldiers are most definitely trained to murder. If not, why have them? In fact, some are trained to kill better than others, we call them special forces.

In fact, since theDick got through with the army and put his company in charge of everything except fighting, that is all the military trains you to do. No more peeling potatoes, no more KP, that's all's all done by KBR, for a profit mind you, of which the Dick gets a share still, to this day.

[Boogie man]

I'm not confused about dick. Not anymore. At one point in my life I was probably naive about such issues. But I'm older and a little wiser and I know horseshit when I smell it.

Fighting Tyranny is the oldest excuse in the book. And the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing to do with fighting tyranny. They seem to be more about "payback" than anything else.

Lately, conservatism and terrorism seem almost indistinguishable.

You must be confused because the military is constitutional and every citizen who is qualified may join. It's too bad that bothers you, but it's called freedom.

Did we "payback" the Japanese after they attacked Pearl Harbor?

[Boogie man]

Brian in the house... :banana:

I think he has a point but I agree it fails under a good sniff test…. Granted I am a pacifist now but I think there is certainly good precedent…

I have discussed this topic a few times but never to my satifaction….

????????????

If you & I beat this fool to death just for the hell of it, it would be straight up murder…. (no one in any civilization would disagree, I would think).

But, if the state said it was not only ok but our duty to kill fools like him (for whatever reason) then it is ok…???????????

idi amin & pol pot, hitler & stalin, mao, ordered the deaths of millions….. The shah, penochet, papa doc & papa assad………. Etc, etc, etc………

Wasn’t what they did often times, if not most of the time- straight up murder??? Albeit legalized……… By them???

So now our military is being compared to Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin. You forgot one. Mao. You know. The one Anita Dunn admires. She works for your president.

You're gonna have your hands full with "this fool".

[Boogie man]

American soldiers are most definitely trained to murder. If not, why have them? In fact, some are trained to kill better than others, we call them special forces.

In fact, since theDick got through with the army and put his company in charge of everything except fighting, that is all the military trains you to do. No more peeling potatoes, no more KP, that's all's all done by KBR, for a profit mind you, of which the Dick gets a share still, to this day.

Use a dictionary and find out the definitions of murder and war.

[Bill Cosby]

So now our military is being compared to Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin. You forgot one. Mao. You know. The one Anita Dunn admires. She works for your president.

You're gonna have your hands full with "this fool".

Show me were I compared them w/ idi amin & we can go from there... :thumbsup:

You should go back & actually read it........:D

[Brian-W]

You must be confused because the military is constitutional and every citizen who is qualified may join. It's too bad that bothers you, but it's called freedom.

Did we "payback" the Japanese after they attacked Pearl Harbor?

I suppose we did. Those people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't attack Pearl Harbour.

I'm sure in the minds of many mid-easterners, 9/11 was "payback" for what they perceive(sp?) America has done to the common people over there by bedding down and supporting tyrants when it suits our "needs".......and then bombing them to hell when we find someone else we like better.

So with that mindset, wasn't 9/11 just as justified as A-bombing 250,000 INNOCENT people? Simply because their "leaders" chose to attack Pearl Harbor?

[Boogie man]

Show me were I compared them w/ idi amin & we can go from there... :thumbsup:

You should go back & actually read it........:D

Let's cut the crap and get it straight then.

Do you believe the US military is trained to commit murder?

[Boogie man]

I suppose we did. Those people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't attack Pearl Harbour.

I'm sure in the minds of many mid-easterners, 9/11 was "payback" for what they perceive(sp?) America has done to the common people over there by bedding down and supporting tyrants when it suits our "needs".......and then bombing them to hell when we find someone else we like better.

So with that mindset, wasn't 9/11 just as justified as A-bombing 250,000 INNOCENT people? Simply because their "leaders" chose to attack Pearl Harbor?

Osama said the attack on 9/11 was in response to our support of Israel. Do you believe the USA and Israel are "tyrants"?

[Brian-W]

Osama said the attack on 9/11 was in response to our support of Israel. Do you believe the USA and Israel are "tyrants"?

Apparently he and plenty of other people do.

Maybe you just didn't get my point. It's all about perspective. People living in squalor at the expense of our prosperity probably see us as tyrants.

[Brian-W]

Let's cut the crap and get it straight then.

Do you believe the US military is trained to commit murder?

YES.....

that sum it up for you?

[Boogie man]

Apparently he and plenty of other people do.

Maybe you just didn't get my point. It's all about perspective. People living in squalor at the expense of our prosperity probably see us as tyrants.

Osama is very wealthy. The terrorist they just nabbed in Texas lived in a very large home in a suburb.

Maybe you should explain to me why I don't "get it".

[Boogie man]

YES.....

that sum it up for you?

Thanks.

What do you do for a living?

[MintJulep]

Apparently he and plenty of other people do.

Maybe you just didn't get my point. It's all about perspective. People living in squalor at the expense of our prosperity probably see us as tyrants.The 9/11 hijackers were all well-educated, cultured and well-heeled so your point is not supported by facts.

[Boogie man]

I'm finding quite a few posters here are very misinformed or confused. I ask them to explain their views and all I get is rudeness. I thought liberals were tolerant and inclusive and respected all points of view and cultures. Was I mistaken?

[MintJulep]

I thought liberals were tolerant and inclusive and respected all points of view and cultures. Was I mistaken?You are a real comedian. :D

[Boogie man]

You are a real comedian. :D

And I'm scary. I'm the Boogie man.

[Parade Rain]

I'm finding quite a few posters here are very misinformed or confused.

You're finding quite a few posters who don't hang on every word Fox spews, and actually inform themselves from other sources, such as the independent (read: not corporate-sponsored) media. That you automatically assume THEY are misinformed and confused reveals YOUR closed mind and how YOU are ill-informed.

I ask them to explain their views and all I get is rudeness.

The rudeness is in response to your arrogant 'you're confused' and 'you're misinformed' horseshit proclamation, which comes on the heels of anyone's countering of YOUR posts.

I thought liberals were tolerant and inclusive and respected all points of view and cultures. Was I mistaken?

Yes, you're mistaken. Liberals don't respect bigots, liars, and those who choose to be lazy 'casual news consumers' who listen to the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys, then form their opinions from the spew they heard from those two traitors. That's LAZY. Carrying water for the scum who are willing to help destroy this country merely for partisan benefit is despicable. EXPECT rudeness when you post the kind of Fox-apologist bullshit you're posting here.

[Brian-W]

Thanks.

What do you do for a living?

None of your business.

But I come froma military family and was an enlisted man myself once.

[Boogie man]

I'

You're finding quite a few posters who don't hang on every word Fox spews, and actually inform themselves from other sources, such as the independent (read: not corporate-sponsored) media. That you automatically assume THEY are misinformed and confused reveals YOUR closed mind and how YOU are ill-informed.



The rudeness is in response to your arrogant 'you're confused' and 'you're misinformed' horseshit proclamation, which comes on the heels of anyone's countering of YOUR posts.



Yes, you're mistaken. Liberals don't respect bigots, liars, and those who choose to be lazy 'casual news consumers' who listen to the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys, then form their opinions from the spew they heard from those two traitors. That's LAZY. Carrying water for the scum who are willing to help destroy this country merely for partisan benefit is despicable. EXPECT rudeness when you post the kind of Fox-apologist bullshit you're posting here.

Give me an example of a post of mine you disagree with. Let's debate it. I think you're too scared of me to do that.

[Brian-W]

Osama is very wealthy. The terrorist they just nabbed in Texas lived in a very large home in a suburb.

Maybe you should explain to me why I don't "get it".

I'm talking about the general sentiment of average people in the middle east.

We were buddy buddy with Sadaam when we were selling him WMD's that he used to gas thousands of people. Then suddenly we get all indignant and self righteous and claim to be doing the right thing when we toppled him.

[Boogie man]

None of your business.

But I come froma military family and was an enlisted man myself once.

So you're an ex-murderer.

[Brian-W]

I'm finding quite a few posters here are very misinformed or confused. I ask them to explain their views and all I get is rudeness. I thought liberals were tolerant and inclusive and respected all points of view and cultures. Was I mistaken?

I've spent the last 8 years hearing neo-con whack jobs accusing me of being a traitor or hating America.

I see these tea-bagger types screaming the most vile shit I can imagine.

So forgive me, but I'm all out of sugar candy.

I'm not going to call you names or talk about your family, but if you're expecting Emily Post, you've got the wrong guy.

[Brian-W]

So you're an ex-murderer.

Nope, I never got the chance to put my "skills" to use.

I'm an ex flunkie.

[Parade Rain]

Give me an example of a post of mine you disagree with. Let's debate it. I think you're too scared of me to do that.

I'm not scared of my computer and monitor, idiot. There's nothing to debate. I don't agree with you ill-informed, backwards point of view. End of story. Go educate yourself and I'll reconsider. Until then, be a 'boogie man' to someone here you can successfully intimidate. Good luck.

[Boogie man]

I'm talking about the general sentiment of average people in the middle east.

We were buddy buddy with Sadaam when we were selling him WMD's that he used to gas thousands of people. Then suddenly we get all indignant and self righteous and claim to be doing the right thing when we toppled him.

Average people in the Middle east are not the problem. The problem is Osama and his followers. Osama is wealthy. Why would a wealthy man and other wealthy men fund and train terrorists?

[MintJulep]

I've spent the last 8 years hearing neo-con whack jobs accusing me of being a traitor or hating America.

I see these tea-bagger types screaming the most vile shit I can imagine.

No more vile than the shit the moonbats screamed at Bush supporters for the past eight. A little different when the shoe's on the other foot, huh?

[Boogie man]

Nope, I never got the chance to put my "skills" to use.

I'm an ex flunkie.

If you were called into combat would you have gone and put your skills to use?

[Boogie man]

I'm not scared of my computer and monitor, idiot. There's nothing to debate. I don't agree with you ill-informed, backwards point of view. End of story. Go educate yourself and I'll reconsider. Until then, be a 'boogie man' to someone here you can successfully intimidate. Good luck.

Yep, you're scared to debate me. You are clearly intimidated. I can see it and so can the other posters. Your lame excuses give you away.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

No more vile than the shit the moonbats screamed at Bush supporters for the past eight. A little different when the shoe's on the other foot, huh?
I see we still believe in the tit for tat...eye for an eye bullspit...shame that people cant get past that dangerous mentality.

[Parade Rain]

Yep, you're scared to debate me. You are clearly intimidated. I can see it and so can the other posters. Your lame excuses give you away.

Yawn. That bait's stale.

FAIL

[Boogie man]

I've spent the last 8 years hearing neo-con whack jobs accusing me of being a traitor or hating America.

I see these tea-bagger types screaming the most vile shit I can imagine.

So forgive me, but I'm all out of sugar candy.

I'm not going to call you names or talk about your family, but if you're expecting Emily Post, you've got the wrong guy.

I'm not going to call you names or talk about your family either. I just want to discuss views with the intent of showing how wrong you are and vice versa. I can do that. Can you?

[MintJulep]

I see we still believe in the tit for tat...eye for an eye bullspit...shame that people cant get past that dangerous mentality.After eight years of this shit, I wonder how you'd feel? You can barely get through one year of it. How do you think we feel?

[Boogie man]

Yawn. That bait's stale.

FAIL

That's not bait. That's the truth. Your excuses are your name calling and evasion of specificity. All you have is that I'm stupid, yet you cannot explain why or point to a specific post and explain why it's a stupid post.

You're a fraud.

[gOd]

You must be confused because the military is constitutional and every citizen who is qualified may join. It's too bad that bothers you, but it's called freedom.

Did we "payback" the Japanese after they attacked Pearl Harbor?
This is a bad comparison. The Japanese declared war on us. Terror is a tactic; not an enemy. Neither Afghanistan or Iraq attacked us; nor did they declare war on us.

[Parade Rain]

That's not bait. That's the truth. Your excuses are your name calling and evasion of specificity. All you have is that I'm stupid, yet you cannot explain why or point to a specific post and explain why it's a stupid post.

You're a fraud.

And you're a waste of time. You've proven it. In spades. YOU need the "explanation"; no one else who's reading your ridiculous horsehit needs it.

[Boogie man]

This is a bad comparison. The Japanese declared war on us. Terror is a tactic; not an enemy. Neither Afghanistan or Iraq attacked us; nor did they declare war on us.

Iraq never surrendered in 1991. There was a conditional cease fire. After 9/11 Iraq was pressured to obey the conditions of the cease fire which they kept refusing to do; thus, the invasion.

Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban and the USA demanded they turn over Osama bin Ladin or face invasion. They refused; thus, the invasion and being driven from power.

If you disagree with that, I'd like to hear your view.

[Boogie man]

And you're a waste of time. You've proven it. In spades. YOU need the "explanation"; no one else who's reading your ridiculous horsehit needs it.

If I'm a "waste of time" then why do you keep posting to me? Are you still confused?

[Parade Rain]

If I'm a "waste of time" then why do you keep posting to me? Are you still confused?

A debate would be the waste of time, 'boogie man'. It takes all of two seconds to bat at a fly.

[Boogie man]

A debate would be the waste of time, 'boogie man'. It takes all of two seconds to bat at a fly.

Then why are you here?

[Parade Rain]

Then why are you here?

Entertainment. :D

[Boogie man]

Entertainment. :D

I see.

Do you support President Obama?

[Parade Rain]

I see.

Do you support President Obama?

Define "support".

[Boogie man]

Define "support".

Do you support his policy in Afghanistan?

[gOd]

Iraq never surrendered in 1991. There was a conditional cease fire. After 9/11 Iraq was pressured to obey the conditions of the cease fire which they kept refusing to do; thus, the invasion.

Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban and the USA demanded they turn over Osama bin Ladin or face invasion. They refused; thus, the invasion and being driven from power.

If you disagree with that, I'd like to hear your view.
Iraq never declared war on us. They attacked Kuwait—a monarchy; not a democracy. There were no WMDs. Bush & Co. lied.

Afghanistan was NOT ruled by the Taliban. They were a weak fringe group when the war began. We poured gasoline on a small flame. Now they are in control of the region.

Speaking of gasoline, Afghanistan has vast oil reserves. So do their neighbors. These wars were about oil—nothing more.

[Parade Rain]

Do you support his policy in Afghanistan?

Nope.......

[Boogie man]

Iraq never declared war on us. They attacked Kuwait—a monarchy; not a democracy. There were no WMDs. Bush & Co. lied.

Afghanistan was NOT ruled by the Taliban. They were a weak fringe group when the war began. We poured gasoline on a small flame. Now they are in control of the region.

Speaking of gasoline, Afghanistan has vast oil reserves. So do their neighbors. These wars were about oil—nothing more.

Kuwait is and was an ally. Bush and Co. were not the only ones who thought Iraq had WMDs. Everyone thought Saddam had WMDs, even in the previous administration. Either the intelligence was faulty or they were moved.

As far as Afghanistan, you are mistaken. Read this.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/afghanistan/taliban.htm#

[Boogie man]

Nope.......

What do you support Obama on?

[Parade Rain]

What do you support Obama on?

When he actually presents something tangible, rather than lipservice (ALL of his lipservice has sounded great, but that's all it's been, so far), I'll let you know.

So far, he's done nothing I can cheer about. It's the same old, corporate-favoring, war-drum-beating bullshit so far.

[gOd]

Kuwait is and was an ally. Bush and Co. were not the only ones who thought Iraq had WMDs. Everyone thought Saddam had WMDs, even in the previous administration. Either the intelligence was faulty or they were moved.

As far as Afghanistan, you are mistaken. Read this.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/afghanistan/taliban.htm#
Your source is biased. I don't buy it.

Who is everyone? I didn't believe it?

[Boogie man]

Your source is biased. I don't buy it.

Who is everyone? I didn't believe it?

Then show us another source.

[gOd]

Then show us another source.
Here ya go. (http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD)

[Kanadesaga]

Use a dictionary and find out the definitions of murder and war.


I know the definitions, they are symbiotic. War is simply state-sponsored murder.

[Boogie man]

Here ya go. (http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD)

Where does it say who was in power in Afghanistan on 9/11?

[doctordog]

I know the definitions, they are symbiotic.

Do they include lies about people's dead mothers and dogs you lying piece of shit?

[Boogie man]

I know the definitions, they are symbiotic.

That is your evidence that the US military is trained to murder?

[gOd]

Where does it say who was in power in Afghanistan on 9/11?
You have to download the flick. Click here (http://www.archive.org/download/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD.iso).

[Kanadesaga]

That is your evidence that the US military is trained to murder?

It is.




........

[Boogie man]

You have to download the flick. Click here (http://www.archive.org/download/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD.iso).

Nothing there. Give me another source.

[Boogie man]

It is.




........

Your opinion is not evidence.

[gOd]

Nothing there. Give me another source.
The link works for me. Go to the first link I posted and try the download link on their page.

[Boogie man]

The link works for me. Go to the first link I posted and try the download link on their page.

My computer is also my work computer and will not download everything because of safety reasons. I need something like an article from a credible source like I provided.

[gOd]

My computer is also my work computer and will not download everything because of safety reasons. I need something like an article from a credible source like I provided.
Download it when you get home. Does your boss know you're wasting the company's money? Your source was not credible. It was incredibly biased.

If you have NetFlix, order "The Power of Nightmares".

[Boogie man]

Download it when you get home. Does your boss know you're wasting the company's money? Your source was not credible. It was incredibly biased.

If you have NetFlix, order "The Power of Nightmares".

I am at home. This is where I work.

My source is a historical fact. I remember when we attacked Afghanistan and I also remember the Taliban were in power. How can my source not be credible and biased when the fact is the Taliban were in power when 9/11 happened and refused to hand over Bin Ladin? You can't be serious.

[gOd]

I am at home. This is where I work.

My source is a historical fact. I remember when we attacked Afghanistan and I also remember the Taliban were in power. How can my source not be credible and biased when the fact is the Taliban were in power when 9/11 happened and refused to hand over Bin Ladin? You can't be serious.
My source refutes yours; and is unbiased. Rent the film, then we'll have an informed discussion.

[Boogie man]

Download it when you get home. Does your boss know you're wasting the company's money? Your source was not credible. It was incredibly biased.

If you have NetFlix, order "The Power of Nightmares".

Do you believe Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)

[Boogie man]

Here's another source.

http://www.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&q=history+of+taliban+in+afghanistan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&scoring=t&ei=HRjhSvvoC5DesgPMp_nODA&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CCQQ5wIwCg

[Brian-W]

Average people in the Middle east are not the problem. The problem is Osama and his followers. Osama is wealthy. Why would a wealthy man and other wealthy men fund and train terrorists?

But the state of the average people in the middle east is what makes it so easy to recruit people to do the job.

Osama may be wealthy, but he's still "one of them"

I know people who are SHOCKED that people in Iraq are using suicide bombers to attack our soldiers. They are just appalled and can;t understand why they would do that.

I always ask what do they think would be happening over here if some foreign force was occupying our streets and counting dead children as collateral damage.

That's usually the point where they ask me of my last name is Bin Laden and the conversation breaks down from there. They are incapable of thinking past the nose on their faces and putting themselves in the shoes of others.

[Boogie man]

Here's another source. I have now given you three sources. All I'm asking is for one from you that contradicts the fact that the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan when 9/11 occured.

http://www.afghan-web.com/history/chron/index4.html

[gOd]

Do you believe Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)
Nope..........

[Boogie man]

But the state of the average people in the middle east is what makes it so easy to recruit people to do the job.

Osama may be wealthy, but he's still "one of them"

I know people who are SHOCKED that people in Iraq are using suicide bombers to attack our soldiers. They are just appalled and can;t understand why they would do that.

I always ask what do they think would be happening over here if some foreign force was occupying our streets and counting dead children as collateral damage.

That's usually the point where they ask me of my last name is Bin Laden and the conversation breaks down from there. They are incapable of thinking past the nose on their faces and putting themselves in the shoes of others.

So why would the wealthy become terrorists?

[Boogie man]

Nope..........

Do you believe this site?

http://www.afghan-web.com/history/chron/index4.html

[gOd]

Here's another source. I have now given you three sources. All I'm asking is for one from you that contradicts the fact that the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan when 9/11 occured.

http://www.afghan-web.com/history/chron/index4.html
That's not credibe; nor does it support your argument.

[Brian-W]

No more vile than the shit the moonbats screamed at Bush supporters for the past eight. A little different when the shoe's on the other foot, huh?

This is not about Bush.

[Brian-W]

So why would the wealthy become terrorists?

Why not?

Why do wealthy people fight dogs? or deal Drugs? Or run billion dollar ponzi schemes?

[Boogie man]

That's not credibe; nor does it support your argument.

It supports the fact that the Taliban ruled Afghanistan. Here's another source.

http://www.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&q=history+of+taliban+in+afghanistan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&scoring=t&ei=HRjhSvvoC5DesgPMp_nODA&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CCQQ5wIwCg

[Boogie man]

Why not?

Why do wealthy people fight dogs? or deal Drugs? Or run billion dollar ponzi schemes?

Your arguement was that terrorism is the result of poverty and because of Bid bad greedy America and Israel.

[Boogie man]

This is not about Bush.

It's about the fact liberals can dish it out but can't take it.

[Brian-W]

Your arguement was that terrorism is the result of poverty and because of Bid bad greedy America and Israel.

And I believe that it is.

.......are you still clinging to "They hate us for our freedoms"?

[Parade Rain]

It's about the fact liberals can dish it out but can't take it.

Here's a good example of your rabid stupidity.

Should I explain to you how and why it's stupid and rabid? :lmao2:

[Brian-W]

It's about the fact liberals can dish it out but can't take it.

If I couldn't take it, I wouldn't be here discussing it with you.

I just give as good as I get.

[Boogie man]

And I believe that it is.

.......are you still clinging to "They hate us for our freedoms"?

You may believe that, but the facts do not support your belief. Give me your theory why Osama is a terrorist and I'll give you my theory.

[Boogie man]

Here's a good example of your rabid stupidity.

Should I explain to you how and why it's stupid and rabid? :lmao2:

Did liberals post hateful crap and pictures of Bush and ridicule all over the internet for 8 years?

[Brian-W]

You may believe that, but the facts do not support your belief. Give me your theory why Osama is a terrorist and I'll give you my theory.

I already have. I'm not letting you run me in circles.

Osama has not blown anything up himself, he has others to do it for him.

Just like a drug dealer has lower level people doing the leg work so he doesn't have to.

I'm not defending it, I just understand it.

Now....your theory.

[Boogie man]

I already have. I'm not letting you run me in circles.

Osama has not blown anything up himself, he has others to do it for him.

Just like a drug dealer has lower level people doing the leg work so he doesn't have to.

I'm not defending it, I just understand it.

Now....your theory.

You have not given a reason why he has people blow things up. Why?

[Parade Rain]

Did liberals post hateful crap and pictures of Bush and ridicule all over the internet for 8 years?

Are you generalizing? "Liberals"? Would that mean that *all* liberals posted hateful crap and picutres of Bush and ridicule all over the net for 8 years?

Did you support Bush?

[Brian-W]

Did liberals post hateful crap and pictures of Bush and ridicule all over the internet for 8 years?

Don't worry, you guys have at least three more years to post watermellon pictures and ask for Obamas birth certificate.

And I'm sure there's some good neo-con out there with a gun just-a-waitin to teach some of us godless liberals a lesson. Last time it was a church....maybe this time he'll go shoot up an elementary school in San Francisco. That will teach them commie liberal fags huh?

[Brian-W]

You have not given a reason why he has people blow things up. Why?

Ok, I'll try again.....

Because I'm sure many of them feel that our prosperity is at their expense.

Our government is more than willing to be a kiss-ass to the likes of Sadaam when it suits our needs. We sell him WMD's so he can kill his own people and then we come in a few years later with false indignation and bomb the survivors back to the stone age.

Like I said, it's all about perspective.

Now....your opinion.

[Boogie man]

Are you generalizing? "Liberals"? Would that mean that *all* liberals posted hateful crap and picutres of Bush and ridicule all over the net for 8 years?

Did you support Bush?

There was hateful crap and pictures and ridicule of Bush at protests and posted on the internet for 8 years. Obama gets some of the same and his supporters cry about it. That's why I say that a lot of liberals can dish it out but can't take it.

[Boogie man]

Don't worry, you guys have at least three more years to post watermellon pictures and ask for Obamas birth certificate.

And I'm sure there's some good neo-con out there with a gun just-a-waitin to teach some of us godless liberals a lesson. Last time it was a church....maybe this time he'll go shoot up an elementary school in San Francisco. That will teach them commie liberal fags huh?

Thanks for proving my point. You can dish it out, but you can't take it.

[Parade Rain]

There was hateful crap and pictures and ridicule of Bush at protests and posted on the internet for 8 years. Obama gets some of the same and his supporters cry about it. That's why I say that a lot of liberals can dish it out but can't take it.

Not *all* liberals support Obama, ass.

The ridicule Obama gets - the shit that's based in FACTS - are only "cried about" by his blind followers. Perhaps the reason it's so important to you that Obama 'get it back' is because you were one of the blind followers of BUSH and this is "payback time".

The ridicule Bush got was well deserved. FULLY earned. The ridicule Obama gets - the shit that's based in FACTS - is what any elected official has coming from The People.


The fact that the Republicans are willing to spin from whole cloth bullshit and lies that they can then spin endlessly through mouthpieces like nutball Beck and the other cretins at fox, generating more faux outrage from their loyalist neanderthals is what distinguishes an informed citizen from a blind follower.

[Boogie man]

Not *all* liberals support Obama, ass.

The ridicule Obama gets - the shit that's based in FACTS - are only "cried about" by his blind followers. Perhaps the reason it's so important to you that Obama 'get it back' is because you were one of the blind followers of BUSH and this is "payback time".

The ridicule Bush got was well deserved. FULLY earned. The ridicule Obama gets - the shit that's based in FACTS - is what any elected official has coming from The People.


The fact that the Republicans are willing to spin from whole cloth bullshit and lies that they can then spin endlessly through mouthpieces like nutball Beck and the other cretins at fox, generating more faux outrage from their loyalist neanderthals is what distinguishes an informed citizen and blind follower.

I'm not a republican and I disagreed with Bush on The border, Harriet Myers, and Dubai. I also wanted him to do more to fight terrorism. He didn't do enough in my opinion.

And you also prove my point by your continued attacks on Beck, Fox, and Ameican citizens as "neaderthals" for the simple reason they disagree with you.

Ever hear of Karma? Ever hear of treating others the way you wish to be treated? How can you expect to call people names like nutball and neanderthal and then cry about it when you get it back?

You pusillanimous pissant.

[Kanadesaga]

I'm finding quite a few posters here are very misinformed or confused. I ask them to explain their views and all I get is rudeness. I thought liberals were tolerant and inclusive and respected all points of view and cultures. Was I mistaken?

No, you weren't mistaken, it's just after 8 years of incomptence, and the recent stupidity of conservatives over health care, we've grown rather tired of the ignorance and bigotry that the right seems to wallow in, like hogs, much to their great joy. Case in point.

[Brian-W]

Thanks for proving my point. You can dish it out, but you can't take it.

As far as I know, no liberal has ever shot up a church because of something he heard Thom Hartman or Rachael Maddow say.

I'm taking it just fine. Fire away bro. My chest is out.

[Kanadesaga]

Do they include lies about people's dead mothers and dogs you lying piece of shit?


No lies dipshit! Just a good memory. You said it, you know you said it, I know, you know you said it. :lmao2:

[Kanadesaga]

Your opinion is not evidence.


As much as yours.

[Boogie man]

No, you weren't mistaken, it's just after 8 years of incomptence, and the recent stupidity of conservatives over health care, we've grown rather tired of the ignorance and bigotry that the right seems to wallow in, like hogs, much to their great joy. Case in point.

It's your OPINION Bush was incompetent. Calling people stupid, ignorant, bigots and hogs is not conducive to encouraging people to listen to your arguement. Then you wonder why people don't go along with you. The American people have the right to disagree with you. Learn to live with that fact and grow up.

[Kanadesaga]

I am at home. This is where I work.

My source is a historical fact. I remember when we attacked Afghanistan and I also remember the Taliban were in power. How can my source not be credible and biased when the fact is the Taliban were in power when 9/11 happened and refused to hand over Bin Ladin? You can't be serious.

There you are wrong. The Taliban did offer to hand over bin laden before 9/11. They were ignored.

[Boogie man]

As much as yours.

I never made the claim that the US military were trained to commit murder. You did.

[Parade Rain]

I'm not a republican and I disagreed with Bush on The border, Harriet Myers, and Dubai. I also wanted him to do more to fight terrorism. He didn't do enough in my opinion.

He was a miserable failure in every one of his presidential endeavours.

And you also prove my point by your continued attacks on Beck, Fox, and Ameican citizens as "neaderthals" for the simple reason they disagree with you.

And you prove my point that you're rabid and stupid. Learn to read, ass. They're neanderthals because they LIE for partisan reasons. Your biases are obvious, the sources you cite suck wind, and you're ill-informed, yet arrogantly assume everyone who disagrees WITH YOU is "misinformed or confused". There's no point in a 'debate' with a closed-minded, arrogant idiot such as yourself.

Ever hear of Karma?

I'm an atheist and I'm not superstitious. Karma isn't "law" - look thee to the comfort and wealth of Cheney to know that karma is a myth. Otherwise, he'd be homeless and destitute or in prison getting raped nightly by 'Bubba'.

Ever hear of treating others the way you wish to be treated? How can you expect to call people names like nutball and neanderthal and then cry about it when you get it back?

Calling it as I see it. That you don't see it that way, especially regarding the above-mentioned nutballs and neanderthals, means that any criticism YOU might level in my direction carries no weight. No one's "crying" except you idiots kneeling on the Republican altar.

[MintJulep]

There you are wrong. The Taliban did offer to hand over bin laden before 9/11. They were ignored.So did Sudan.

[Boogie man]

There you are wrong. The Taliban did offer to hand over bin laden before 9/11. They were ignored.

Who ignored them?

[Kanadesaga]

It's your OPINION Bush was incompetent. Calling people stupid, ignorant, bigots and hogs is not conducive to encouraging people to listen to your arguement. Then you wonder why people don't go along with you. The American people have the right to disagree with you. Learn to live with that fact and grow up.


My argument is sound. Bush is an incompetent. He has been his entire life. That is a fact. And if people act stupid, ignorant and bigoted, I don;t want those people "going along with" me. I try to avoid such social miscreants, like teabaggers, birthers and most conservatives.

and thank you, but I am all grown up. I have been for 40 years, sonny.

[Boogie man]

He was a miserable failure in every one of his presidential endeavours.



And you prove my point that you're rabid and stupid. Learn to read, ass. They're neanderthals because they LIE for partisan reasons. Your biases are obvious, the sources you cite suck wind, and you're ill-informed, yet arrogantly assume everyone who disagrees WITH YOU is "misinformed or confused". There's no point in a 'debate' with a closed-minded, arrogant idiot such as yourself.



I'm an atheist and I'm not superstitious. Karma isn't "law" - look thee to the comfort and wealth of Cheney to know that karma is a myth. Otherwise, he'd be homeless and destitute or in prison getting raped nightly by 'Bubba'.



Calling it as I see it. That you don't see it that way, especially regarding the above-mentioned nutballs and neanderthals, means that any criticism YOU might level in my direction carries no weight. No one's "crying" except you idiots kneeling on the Republican altar.

So anyone who disagrees with you is stupid, nutball, bigot, neanderthal, etc, etc. I am not a republican. I do not belong to any political party.

You're not doing very well. Maybe you should have a drink and chill for a while.

[Kanadesaga]

So did Sudan.


Yes they did.

[Boogie man]

My argument is sound. Bush is an incompetent. He has been his entire life. That is a fact. And if people act stupid, ignorant and bigoted, I don;t want those people "going along with" me. I try to avoid such social miscreants, like teabaggers, birthers and most conservatives.

and thank you, but I am all grown up. I have been for 40 years, sonny.

Again, it is your opinion that Bush is incompetent.

Give me one example of me being stupid, ignorant and bigoted.

[Kanadesaga]

Who ignored them?


I believe both the Clinton and Bush administrations. George was too concerned with getting that Ken Lay Memorial Pipeline run through Afghansitan than worrying abuot bin Laden. I mean he had the Taliban to lunch when he was gov of Texas.

[Parade Rain]

So anyone who disagrees with you is stupid, nutball, bigot, neanderthal, etc, etc.

Wrong. Anyone who believes the liars and carries water for them is stupid, a nutball and a neanderthal, etc. etc.

I am not a republican. I do not belong to any political party.

Right. You just vote for them, is all. And defend them. And generalize about "liberals".

You're not doing very well. Maybe you should have a drink and chill for a while.

By your standards? Keep trying! :lmao2:

[Kanadesaga]

Again, it is your opinion that Bush is incompetent.

Give me one example of me being stupid, ignorant and bigoted.


Are we being a little defensive? I never said anything about you. Guilty conscience?

But no, it is a fact that GW Bush has been a complete failure at every thing he ever attempted.

[Boogie man]

I believe both the Clinton and Bush administrations. George was too concerned with getting that Ken Lay Memorial Pipeline run through Afghansitan than worrying abuot bin Laden. I mean he had the Taliban to lunch when he was gov of Texas.

Give me a link of the Taliban offering Bin Laden to Bush.

[Boogie man]

Are we being a little defensive? I never said anything about you. Guilty conscience?

But no, it is a fact that GW Bush has been a complete failure at every thing he ever attempted.

Do you think I am ignorant and a bigot? Again, it is your opinion Bush has been a complete utter failure.

[Parade Rain]

Do you think I am ignorant and a bigot? Again, it is your opinion Bush has been a complete utter failure.

Name Bush's "successes" as president.

[Boogie man]

.

Wrong. Anyone who believes the liars and carries water for them is stupid, a nutball and a neanderthal, etc. etc.



Right. You just vote for them, is all. And defend them. And generalize about "liberals".



By your standards? Keep trying! :lmao2:

Yes, I generalize about liberals as you generalize about conservatives. You're a hypocrite of the first degree.

[Boogie man]

Name Bush's "successes" as president.

Tax cuts were good for the economy. Iraq is now an ally and much better off then 8 years ago. Two excellent Supreme Court justices appointed. Afghanistan was fine until the last 6 months under Obama. Homeland security did a good job stopping some planned attacks.

All in all, not bad. Nothing to brag about. I'm off to watch a movie. Talk with ya later.

[Kanadesaga]

Tax cuts were good for the economy.

Forgot about the meltdown last year? Those tax cuts contributed.


Iraq is now an ally and much better off then 8 years ago.

See?! Ignorance shines through. I can site several ways they are not better off. They had electricty about 23 hours a day under saddam, they had working ssewage systems. they had NO AL QAEDA in Iraq, now they do. they also didn't have the sectarian violence. But to you 1 million is "better". You must be a christian too.


Two excellent Supreme Court justices appointed.

after he couldn't get his cleaning lady appointed. :lmao2: and I wouldn't consider either of them qualified. Much like the token and the fat man.


Afghanistan was fine until the last 6 months under Obama.


Again, ignorance shines through.


Homeland security did a good job stopping some planned attacks.


You mean all those bogus attempts that KSM sent them on after they waterboarded him 180 times?

All in all, not bad. Nothing to brag about. I'm off to watch a movie. Talk with ya later.

All in all, terrible. Damn right about bragging. I would suggest you spend your time reading a book. Try something relevant.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

After eight years of this shit, I wonder how you'd feel? You can barely get through one year of it. How do you think we feel?
ACTUALLY I think I have made my views on this very clear in multiple posts in the past so I will no longer explain things except to say this tit for tat bullshit about " oh those meanie libs really hated on Bush and his supporters so we have a right to return the favor" is crap and does nothing but to further divide this country. Yes i get vocal on hear at times and can be very outspoken but that is from an ideological stand point....i dont come on here bitching just for the sake of bitching because I believe its my "right" just for "putting up with" years of trash talking.

[Brian-W]

Name Bush's "successes" as president.

He left office without starting a third war. :thumbsup:

[Parade Rain]

Yes, I generalize about liberals as you generalize about conservatives. You're a hypocrite of the first degree.

Wrong. I generalize about those who follow liars and regurgitate their rhetoric. A large group, to be sure, but specifically defined.

[Parade Rain]

Tax cuts were good for the economy. Iraq is now an ally and much better off then 8 years ago. Two excellent Supreme Court justices appointed. Afghanistan was fine until the last 6 months under Obama. Homeland security did a good job stopping some planned attacks.

All in all, not bad. Nothing to brag about. I'm off to watch a movie. Talk with ya later.

So, you voted for him and supported him through both terms, correct?

[MintJulep]

ACTUALLY I think I have made my views on this very clear in multiple posts in the past so I will no longer explain things except to say this tit for tat bullshit about " oh those meanie libs really hated on Bush and his supporters so we have a right to return the favor" is crap and does nothing but to further divide this country. And, how was the name-calling and vitriol any different during the Bush years? That's right. Exactly it was the same thing. Next time, remember there's a hereafter.

Yes i get vocal on hear at times and can be very outspoken but that is from an ideological stand point....i dont come on here bitching just for the sake of bitching because I believe its my "right" just for "putting up with" years of trash talking. You come on here bitching because you and your friends at Bowling Green can dish it out but you can't take it. :lmao2:

[Kanadesaga]

And, how was the name-calling and vitriol any different during the Bush years?


Bush earned every epithet, the only thing he solely earned in his life. :lmao2:

[Life_Long_Dem!]

And, how was the name-calling and vitriol any different during the Bush years? That's right. Exactly it was the same thing. Next time, remember there's a hereafter.

You come on here bitching because you and your friends at Bowling Green can dish it out but you can't take it. :lmao2:

You are beyond hope there Minty...I guess you forgot what my stance is...I was AGAINST it then with Bush and I am AGAINST it now with OBAMA...this shit is pointless to be doing no matter what side of the political aisle you are on. and AGAIN BTW FYI I went to The University Of Toledo NOT BGSU and did a radio show at 88.3 WXUT' NOT 88.1 WBGU! Jesus crimminy you are so memory lapse ridden!

[MintJulep]

You are beyond hope there Minty...I guess you forgot what my stance is...I was AGAINST it then with Bush and I am AGAINST it now with OBAMA...this shit is pointless to be doing no matter what side of the political aisle you are on. and AGAIN BTW FYI I went to The University Of Toledo NOT BGSU and did a radio show at 88.3 WXUT' NOT 88.1 WBGU! Jesus crimminy you are so memory lapse ridden!
Only kidding. lol. I don't know why you are so insulted by being associated with Bowling Green. :D

[Life_Long_Dem!]

Only kidding. lol. I don't know why you are so insulted by being associated with Bowling Green. :D
actually to be honest i wish I had gone there...and actually it really doesnt bother me about you saying I went there..I just like to mess with you about it...giving you a hard time !all in fun:D

[MintJulep]

actually to be honest i wish I had gone there...and actually it really doesnt bother me about you saying I went there..I just like to mess with you about it...giving you a hard time !all in fun:D
Same here. :D

[Boogie man]

So, you voted for him and supported him through both terms, correct?

I voted for him and I supported the wars, although he didn't do enough to fight terrorism in my opinion. He should have taken out the thugs in Iran and Syria. I disagreed with him about many other things.

[Boogie man]

Forgot about the meltdown last year? Those tax cuts contributed.




See?! Ignorance shines through. I can site several ways they are not better off. They had electricty about 23 hours a day under saddam, they had working ssewage systems. they had NO AL QAEDA in Iraq, now they do. they also didn't have the sectarian violence. But to you 1 million is "better". You must be a christian too.




after he couldn't get his cleaning lady appointed. :lmao2: and I wouldn't consider either of them qualified. Much like the token and the fat man.





Again, ignorance shines through.





You mean all those bogus attempts that KSM sent them on after they waterboarded him 180 times?



All in all, terrible. Damn right about bragging. I would suggest you spend your time reading a book. Try something relevant.

Iraq is better off. You may not agree, but it is a fact.

Harriet Myers biggest foe was conservatives. None of us wanted her appointed. Bush was very disappointing on that one. He finally woke up.

I also find that posters who pick out sentences as you do are cowardly and niggardly in their intellectual comprehension. I answer an entire post in a complete thought.

[Boogie man]

So it looks like the "liberals" have one arguement......."You're stupid".

That's usually what I find their entire arguement boils down to.

[Boogie man]

Wrong. I generalize about those who follow liars and regurgitate their rhetoric. A large group, to be sure, but specifically defined.

I take it you are a regular viewer and listener of Glenn Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, etc. Otherwise, how would you know what their rhetoric is?

[Parade Rain]

I take it you are a regular viewer and listener of Glenn Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, etc. Otherwise, how would you know what their rhetoric is?

Independent journalism is what I read. Media watchdogs report regularly on Beck's, O'Reilly's, Rush's and Hannity's lies. That's how.

[Boogie man]

Independent journalism is what I read. Media watchdogs report regularly on Beck's, O'Reilly's, Rush's and Hannity's lies. That's how.

"Media Matters"? Would you call that "independent journalism?

[Parade Rain]

"Media Matters"? Would you call that "independent journalism?

I mentioned independent journalism and media watchdogs. Did I say I read 'Media Matters'? Go back and check my post and see if I do.

We'd save a lot of dialogue boxes here if you'd READ the post before replying.

[Boogie man]

I mentioned independent journalism and media watchdogs. Did I say I read 'Media Matters'? Go back and check my post and see if I do.

We'd save a lot of dialogue boxes here if you'd READ the post before replying.

What independent journailsts do you get your information from?

[Parade Rain]

What independent journailsts do you get your information from?

Lots of different ones. You don't know enough about any of them to appreciate them; otherwise, they'd be YOUR sources as well.

[Boogie man]

Lots of different ones. You don't know enough about any of them to appreciate them; otherwise, they'd be YOUR sources as well.

We'd save a lot of dialogue boxes if you would give a direct answer to a direct question.

[Parade Rain]

We'd save a lot of dialogue boxes if you would give a direct answer to a direct question.

This is a tired tactic - I list my sources, and you list all your reasons they're untrustworthy. So, no - you're not getting a "direct answer". Go through all my posts and find where I've cited some of them if you're so fucking curious.

[MintJulep]

Lots of different ones. You don't know enough about any of them to appreciate them; otherwise, they'd be YOUR sources as well.
Name one. :D

[Parade Rain]

Name one. :D

I have, many times. Here's one: Pacifica Radio.

[MintJulep]

I have, many times. Here's one: Pacifica Radio.
That's a liberal/progressive station. Any other 'independent' sources you want to cite? :D

[Parade Rain]

That's a liberal/progressive station. Any other 'independent' sources you want to cite? :D

Lots of other ones. Go look through my posts.

[MintJulep]

Lots of other ones. Go look through my posts.
Lighten up. I'm only teasing. lol

[Parade Rain]

Lighten up. I'm only teasing. lol

No, I'm DARK and staying that way today. :taunt:

[doctordog]

This is a tired tactic - I list my sources, and you list all your reasons they're untrustworthy. So, no - you're not getting a "direct answer". Go through all my posts and find where I've cited some of them if you're so fucking curious.

No wonder liberals are such socialist creatures of habit, they are too damn lazy to even answer a damn question without deflection.:lmao2:

[Brian-W]

So it looks like the "liberals" have one arguement......."You're stupid".

That's usually what I find their entire arguement boils down to.

as opposed to the right sides argument which seems to be

"You're confused"

:banghead:

[Parade Rain]

That's a liberal/progressive station. Any other 'independent' sources you want to cite? :D

And? Independent means it's not corporate-sponsored.

[MintJulep]

And? Independent means it's not corporate-sponsored. So you mean government-funded, like NPR? NPR slants decidedly left as does PBS. Corporate sponsorship does not indicate political bent. See: CBS, NBC, ABC, etc.

Name a source you consider "Independent" in political slant.

[gOd]

So you mean government-funded, like NPR? NPR slants decidedly left as does PBS. Corporate sponsorship does not indicate political bent. See: CBS, NBC, ABC, etc.

Name a source you consider "Independent" in political slant.
It varies by degrees. Fox "News" has a blatant bias to the right.

[Boogie man]

as opposed to the right sides argument which seems to be

"You're confused"

:banghead:

You're either confused, retarded or a liar. Which would you prefer? I was being nice.

[Brian-W]

You're either confused, retarded or a liar. Which would you prefer? I was being nice.

Doesnt matter to me.

I was just pointing how ironic it was for you to talk about how limited someones argument was.

And I guess you further proved my point.

[Boogie man]

Doesnt matter to me.

I was just pointing how ironic it was for you to talk about how limited someones argument was.

And I guess you further proved my point.

You're confused and I will tell you why just as I did to others in the other posts.

When I tell you that you are confused I will then tell you why so you can no longer be confused.

[Brian-W]

You're confused and I will tell you why just as I did to others in the other posts.

When I tell you that you are confused I will then tell you why so you can no longer be confused.


Ok, I'm beginning to lose interest.

I have given my opinion as to what I think the root of terrorism and 9/11 was.

Now it;s your turn.

[Boogie man]

Ok, I'm beginning to lose interest.

I have given my opinion as to what I think the root of terrorism and 9/11 was.

Now it;s your turn.

There are poor people all over the world that do not support terrorism. Bin Ladin was not poor and he is the most famous terrorist in the world. Your opinion doesn't hold water.

My opinion is the root of terrorism is Islam. The reason I believe that is by reading the Koran and the history of Islam. My opinion is based on fact.

Your turn.

[Brian-W]

There are poor people all over the world that do not support terrorism. Bin Ladin was not poor and he is the most famous terrorist in the world. Your opinion doesn't hold water.

My opinion is the root of terrorism is Islam. The reason I believe that is by reading the Koran and the history of Islam. My opinion is based on fact.

Your turn.

No, you're opinion is based on your opinion.

If that were the case, then the number of muslims committing terrorism would be much higher than it is.

The Bible,especially the old testament, is just as violent as the Koran.

Your answer sounds a lot like "Marilynn Manson turns kids into murderers"

That being said, what is your solution? extermination of the muslims? That sounds eerily familiar.

[Boogie man]

No, you're opinion is based on your opinion.

If that were the case, then the number of muslims committing terrorism would be much higher than it is.

The Bible,especially the old testament, is just as violent as the Koran.

Your answer sounds a lot like "Marilynn Manson turns kids into murderers"

That being said, what is your solution? extermination of the muslims? That sounds eerily familiar.

The difference between the old testament and the Koran is that the Koran is being preached today. The Old Testament is not being preached. Christians follow the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus. The teachings of Mohammed are being taught today and those teachings are full of hate and murder.

My solution is to keep doing what we are doing and remove the leaders of Iran and Syria.

[Brian-W]

The difference between the old testament and the Koran is that the Koran is being preached today. The Old Testament is not being preached. .

What fucking planet do you live on?

[MintJulep]

The difference between the old testament and the Koran is that the Koran is being preached today. The Old Testament is not being preached. Christians follow the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus. The teachings of Mohammed are being taught today and those teachings are full of hate and murder. Yes. The difference between Islam and Christianity is the latter has evolved and is living in the year 2009. Islam still exists in the year 1400.

[gOd]

Yes. The difference between Islam and Christianity is the latter has evolved and is living in the year 2009. Islam still exists in the year 1400.
Evolution doesn't exist according to the bible; just ask Eman. If Christianity has evolved, that proves that God does not exist.

[disrupter]

Christianity has managed to cover up most of its ugly underbelly of barbarianism.

A lot, but not all of its atrocities have been fogged by the dark ages.

Why don't people select a god based on their ethics & values,
rather than just fall in jack-boot lock step behind the worst psychotic barbarian they have found?

Because a large number of males like to be psychotic barbarians & women either accept or in some cased encourage it.

Religion is a mask for the worst aspects of ourselves & nothing more.

Morality: the last bastion of the unethical.

[MintJulep]

Evolution doesn't exist according to the bible; just ask Eman. If Christianity has evolved, that proves that God does not exist. Christianity has evolved in comparison with Islam.

[Brian-W]

Yes. The difference between Islam and Christianity is the latter has evolved and is living in the year 2009. Islam still exists in the year 1400.

Plus, the Christians really have no need for terrorism. Terrorism is guerilla warfare. Christians have nukes, fighter jets and a trillion dollar war budget.And they basically rule the world.

[disrupter]

Your old shit is better than their not as old shit. :rolleyes:

My God, this is a supposedly adult interchange?

Yeap, i think we are going to go extinct folks, lol.

Party while you can, because these people are 'built-in' suicide.

[gOd]

Christianity has evolved in comparison with Islam.
That defies the rule of God. God's law is immutable—not open to interpretation. It does not evolve.

[Parade Rain]

That defies the rule of God. God's law is immutable—not open to interpretation. It does not evolve.

I think what she's trying to say is that Christians evolve, but Muslims do not. :D

[disrupter]

Religion desires the static.
Time is non-static.

So to keep these people happy we should give them as much static as possible.

That is a joke, but it is amazing how many major organized religions are based on 'we victims'. Judaism, Christianity, Islam all see themselves as fighting some great battle against the evil oppressor(s).
Self perceived 'innocent child' melodrama, that seems to excuse all manner of the worst & most horrible monstrosities against other, unincluded people(s).

Honestly, mostly the real oppressor is their own [willful?] stupidity.

It is just illogical & stupid for those engaged in it.
Like collective, socially acceptable, insanity.

But i suppose we are programmed for love & other forms of insanity, so evolution doesn't quibble about the means, it just follows the path that gets survival done.

[disrupter]

I suppose if you believe god has some secret plan then you avoid the sticky details of trying to figure out what most of us will agree with or not.

But how people don't ask, 'how do i fit into that supposed plan?' defies common sense.

It is like there is no creative possibility in the Universe there is only 'God's' plan.

I suppose the truth is there are a lot of [infinite?] possibilities, & perhaps all that guessing, speculating & risk is hard to deal with on a psychological level.

But if we are going to act as adults there really is no other option.

[MintJulep]

That defies the rule of God. God's law is immutable—not open to interpretation. It does not evolve.Christians no longer subscribe to or practice the violence from the Old Testament.

Islam regularly engages in stonings and honor killings, amongst other atrocities. They remain in the year 1400.

[MintJulep]

I think what she's trying to say is that Christians evolve, but Muslims do not. :DThat's exactly what I'm saying.

[Boogie man]

What fucking planet do you live on?

Christians do not obey the old testament laws and rituals. Christians follow the New Testamant and the teachings of Jesus.

I suggest you find out what you're talking about.

[Brian-W]

Christians do not obey the old testament laws and rituals. Christians follow the New Testamant and the teachings of Jesus.

I suggest you find out what you're talking about.

I know all about the difference between the old testament and the new.

But if you think the values of the old testament are not being preached and followed, then you're seriously naive.

And if you think Christians don't commit terrorism, tell that to the abortion doctors, or the victims at OK city, or the people in that church that were killed by one of Bill Oreilleys robots.

[Brian-W]

Christians no longer subscribe to or practice the violence from the Old Testament.

Islam regularly engages in stonings and honor killings, amongst other atrocities. They remain in the year 1400.

So then with almost a billion Muslims in the world, why are we not seeing terrorism on a GRAND scale?

I will give you this much. Islam is the law of the land in places like Iran and that is why they engage in stonings and the like. However, I've said before that I know plenty of Christians who would be more than happy with public executions and strict laws against "gettin gay".

[gOd]

Christians no longer subscribe to or practice the violence from the Old Testament.

Islam regularly engages in stonings and honor killings, amongst other atrocities. They remain in the year 1400.
Tell that to Mr. George W "eye for an eye" bush.

[Boogie man]

I know all about the difference between the old testament and the new.

But if you think the values of the old testament are not being preached and followed, then you're seriously naive.

And if you think Christians don't commit terrorism, tell that to the abortion doctors, or the victims at OK city, or the people in that church that were killed by one of Bill Oreilleys robots.

Oh my God, there goes the same ole same ole again.. Those are insane people. Not Christians.

Tell me which Christian leader has an organization that reaches all over the world dedicated to terrorism. You can't. There is absolutely no comparison to Christians and Islamic terrorism. Deal with facts and not emotion al rhetoric if you want some credibility.

[Boogie man]

Tell that to Mr. George W "eye for an eye" bush.

Looks like Obama, A Christian President, is murdering people in the Middle East all over the place. You're very confused.

[gOd]

Looks like Obama, A Christian President, is murdering people in the Middle East all over the place. You're very confused.
Obama inherited Bush's blunder. I'm confused? Where the hell have you been the last 8 years?

[Boogie man]

So then with almost a billion Muslims in the world, why are we not seeing terrorism on a GRAND scale?

I will give you this much. Islam is the law of the land in places like Iran and that is why they engage in stonings and the like. However, I've said before that I know plenty of Christians who would be more than happy with public executions and strict laws against "gettin gay".

Public executions and strict laws are not murder or terrorism. Christian conservatives believe in law enforcement. That is not terrorism. You obviously are not a student of the bible or the Koran, so I don't think you know what you're talking about. You're in over your head.

[Boogie man]

Obama inherited Bush's blunder. I'm confused? Where the hell have you been the last 8 years?

Why is your Christian president murdering people in Pakistan and Afghanistan?

[gOd]

Why is your Christian president murdering people in Pakistan and Afghanistan?
Why aren't you in church mumbling to your imaginary space daddy?

[MintJulep]

Tell me which Christian leader has an organization that reaches all over the world dedicated to terrorism. You can't. There is absolutely no comparison to Christians and Islamic terrorism. Deal with facts and not emotion al rhetoric if you want some credibility.Great question. I wonder if anyone will answer it?

[Boogie man]

Great question. I wonder if anyone will answer it?

They will not answer it because they can't answer it. Comparing Christians to Islamic terrorism is insane. These clowns just repeat what they hear some other moonbat say without thinking it through. Their ability to reason is about equal to a Cocker Spaniel.

[Brian-W]

Oh my God, there goes the same ole same ole again.. Those are insane people. Not Christians.

Tell me which Christian leader has an organization that reaches all over the world dedicated to terrorism. You can't. There is absolutely no comparison to Christians and Islamic terrorism. Deal with facts and not emotion al rhetoric if you want some credibility.

I already explained that. Christians have no need for terrorism, as it is a GUERILLA tactic.

There is a lot of truth to the phrase "War is just terrorism with a bigger budget"

[Brian-W]

Public executions and strict laws are not murder or terrorism. Christian conservatives believe in law enforcement. That is not terrorism. You obviously are not a student of the bible or the Koran, so I don't think you know what you're talking about. You're in over your head.


Explain why, with over a billion muslims in the world, are we not seeing massive waves of attack all over the globe? Instead we see a few random people planning attacks that rarely come to be. Like the JFK fuel line thingy and the "attack" on FT Hood.

[Boogie man]

I already explained that. Christians have no need for terrorism, as it is a GUERILLA tactic.

There is a lot of truth to the phrase "War is just terrorism with a bigger budget"

Who is in charge of the Christian war machine?

[Boogie man]

Explain why, with over a billion muslims in the world, are we not seeing massive waves of attack all over the globe? Instead we see a few random people planning attacks that rarely come to be. Like the JFK fuel line thingy and the "attack" on FT Hood.

We are seeing massive waves of attack all over the globe. Let's get you educated to reality. This report is two years old so it has greatly increased since then.

10,000 Islamist terrorist attacks since 9/11 -60,000 dead and 90,000 injured.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3254

[Boogie man]

Here is some more for you.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/globalterrorism1.html

[Brian-W]

Who is in charge of the Christian war machine?

At the moment, it's Barack Obama.

[Brian-W]

We are seeing massive waves of attack all over the globe. Let's get you educated to reality. This report is two years old so it has greatly increased since then.

10,000 Islamist terrorist attacks since 9/11 -60,000 dead and 90,000 injured.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3254

But there's over a billion muslims in the world, if Islam were the root, you would not have to read about it, it would be in your back yard....every day.

[Boogie man]

At the moment, it's Barack Obama.

Oh, okay. So Obama is murdering people in the Middle East in the name of Jesus. Is that correct?

[Boogie man]

But there's over a billion muslims in the world, if Islam were the root, you would not have to read about it, it would be in your back yard....every day.

I would counter that there are hundreds of millions of Christians in the world. You claim Christian terrorism is just as bad as Islamic terrorism. Why isn't that in your back yard....every day?

[Brian-W]

I would counter that there are hundreds of millions of Christians in the world. You claim Christian terrorism is just as bad as Islamic terrorism. Why isn't that in your back yard....every day?

I didn't say that.

I said for the most part, Christians don't need terrorism, because they're already in control.

[Brian-W]

Oh, okay. So Obama is murdering people in the Middle East in the name of Jesus. Is that correct?

Sadly, yes. but Obama didn't start the fight. It was already happening when he walked in the door.

[MintJulep]

I didn't say that.

I said for the most part, Christians don't need terrorism, because they're already in control.Christians don't kill in the name of their religion.

[Brian-W]

Christians don't kill in the name of their religion.

Most of them don't. But that's mainly because Christians for the most part, don't live in third world nations.

However, it was barely a generation ago, when southern Christians regularly committed murder in the name of god. And only because we had a fairly stable society, we were able to put a stop to it.

[Boogie man]

I didn't say that.

I said for the most part, Christians don't need terrorism, because they're already in control.

Christians are in control?

Oh yeah, Christians don't need terrorism because they are in control.

Astounding reasoning ability here. Just astounding.

So the congress and Obama were elected by a majority of Christians. Got it. Thanks for your valuable wisdom.

[Boogie man]

Most of them don't. But that's mainly because Christians for the most part, don't live in third world nations.

However, it was barely a generation ago, when southern Christians regularly committed murder in the name of god. And only because we had a fairly stable society, we were able to put a stop to it.

Africa has millions of Christians and a lot of them are being murdered by Muslims.

I agree with you on the KKK thing and that is not Christianity. Jesus never condoned murder. Mohammed did. The "Christians" who did that were wrong. The Muslims who do it are only following their leader who told them to terrorize and behead the infidel and to not make friends with the Jew or Christian.

[Brian-W]

Christians are in control?

.

yes....they sure are.

[Boogie man]

yes....they sure are.

Then why aren't you being told to go to church or being forced to read your bible? Why can't Christians pray in public school if they are in control?

[Brian-W]

Then why aren't you being told to go to church or being forced to read your bible? Why can't Christians pray in public school if they are in control?

They're trying.

And FYI, they still pray in local schools in my area. And I have never been to a graduation where they did not pray to jesus.

[Boogie man]

They're trying.

And FYI, they still pray in local schools in my area. And I have never been to a graduation where they did not pray to jesus.

Good. I'm glad there is still some freedom in your area.

I still think your comparison of Christian terrorism being compatible to Muslims terrorism is ridiculous. Christians are not in control of the American military. The American government is not being run according to Christian church doctrine, but there are muslim countries being run according to muslim theology and by muslim clerics. Iran has a muslim cleric who is the Supreme leader. Name the Christian minister or Priest who is more powerful than Obama.

[Brian-W]

Good. I'm glad there is still some freedom in your area.
.

No one has ever denied them the freedom to worship Jesus. Privately or publicly. They regularly have outdoor/public preachings at court square.There's a preacher on a mobile stage and church members passing out phamphlets to pedestrians and motorists. And I have no problem whatsoever with that. It's peaceful assembly. Guaranteed by the constitution. Good for them. If that's how they want to get their message out, then I'm in complete support.

The problem arises when they essentially force children to pray to their god or leave the room in shame.

That, my friend is not freedom.

But let's be honest if some Muslim teacher was making your kid pray to allah and kiss the ground, you'd have a fucking coronary.

[MarkMiller]

Then why aren't you being told to go to church or being forced to read your bible? Why can't Christians pray in public school if they are in control?
You need to catch up on this. Some school prayer has been allowed and recently the Lodi city council passed something to allow a prayer before each council meeting.

Now....soon you will be told what god to pray to and what to say in your mind as you pray....and still get a whack with a whip to make sure.

[Boogie man]

No one has ever denied them the freedom to worship Jesus. Privately or publicly. They regularly have outdoor/public preachings at court square.There's a preacher on a mobile stage and church members passing out phamphlets to pedestrians and motorists. And I have no problem whatsoever with that. It's peaceful assembly. Guaranteed by the constitution. Good for them. If that's how they want to get their message out, then I'm in complete support.

The problem arises when they essentially force children to pray to their god or leave the room in shame.

That, my friend is not freedom.

But let's be honest if some Muslim teacher was making your kid pray to allah and kiss the ground, you'd have a fucking coronary.

Tell me who forces children to pray or leave the room in shame. Show me.

[Boogie man]

You need to catch up on this. Some school prayer has been allowed and recently the Lodi city council passed something to allow a prayer before each council meeting.

Now....soon you will be told what god to pray to and what to say in your mind as you pray....and still get a whack with a whip to make sure.

Ridiculous. I might as well say that soon you'll pull a monkey out of your ass and he'll recite the Gettysburg Address.

[Brian-W]

Tell me who forces children to pray or leave the room in shame. Show me.

Pray or step out of the room. That's their policy. Unfortunately, the kids seldom leave the room out of fear of being singled out. So they just stay and pray to magic jesus.

[Brian-W]

You need to catch up on this. Some school prayer has been allowed and recently the Lodi city council passed something to allow a prayer before each council meeting.

Now....soon you will be told what god to pray to and what to say in your mind as you pray....and still get a whack with a whip to make sure.

As long as that god happens to be Jesus, Boogie will be all smiles and think it's just fine and dandy. But as soon as their kids have to sit in on a Muslim or Hindu prayer, it will be time for a teabagger rally screaming about how their freedoms are being destroyed.

[MintJulep]

Pray or step out of the room. That's their policy. Unfortunately, the kids seldom leave the room out of fear of being singled out. So they just stay and pray to magic jesus.I didn't realize this was a national policy. Do you have a link to that law?

[MintJulep]

As long as that god happens to be Jesus, Boogie will be all smiles and think it's just fine and dandy. But as soon as their kids have to sit in on a Muslim or Hindu prayer, it will be time for a teabagger rally screaming about how their freedoms are being destroyed.We don't live in a theocracy, as Muslim nations do, and there are no parallels between Christianity and Islam. That is the point.

[xav8terx]

We don't live in a theocracy, as Muslim nations do, and there are no parallels between Christianity and Islam. That is the point.


No there are no parallels because they are one in the same.

[Brian-W]

I didn't realize this was a national policy. Do you have a link to that law?

I didn't say it was a national policy.
I just said it happens at my kids school.
And I'm sure it's not a unique situation.

[Brian-W]

No there are no parallels because they are one in the same.

DING DING DING DING!!

[MintJulep]

No there are no parallels because they are one in the same.Then show some evidence to back it up. No one here has been able to do that. Maybe you will be the first.

[MintJulep]

I didn't say it was a national policy.
I just said it happens at my kids school.
And I'm sure it's not a unique situation.Then we're not living under Christian rule, as Islam lives under Shariah law, correct?

[Brian-W]

Then we're not living under Christian rule, as Islam lives under Shariah law, correct?

MY kid is living under Christian rule.

Do you approve of this policy?

[Brian-W]

Then show some evidence to back it up. No one here has been able to do that. Maybe you will be the first.

They worship the same god. The only difference is their choice of prophets and dogma.

They are no different than Catholics and Baptists.

[xav8terx]

Then show some evidence to back it up. No one here has been able to do that. Maybe you will be the first.


See Brian's post. Ever heard the phrase "know your enemy"...you might look into that.

[MintJulep]

MY kid is living under Christian rule.

Do you approve of this policy?Again, show me the national law requiring children to live under Christian law. Until you can do that, you have nothing. There is no such law. You are simply reciting more moonbat hysteria.

[MintJulep]

They worship the same god. The only difference is their choice of prophets and dogma.

They are no different than Catholics and Baptists.Certainly they are. Muslims are existing in the year 1400 where their pedophilic false prophet commands them to stone their daughters to death and hang homosexuals. I challenge you to find a Christian parallel to such barbarism in the year 2009.

[xav8terx]

Africa has millions of Christians and a lot of them are being murdered by Muslims.

I agree with you on the KKK thing and that is not Christianity. Jesus never condoned murder. Mohammed did. The "Christians" who did that were wrong. The Muslims who do it are only following their leader who told them to terrorize and behead the infidel and to not make friends with the Jew or Christian.


Wow, you are fuckin retarded to say the least. Do you even know what you are talking about?

Now, do you know the rest of that? Do you know what that even means? Did you bother to read the whole thing or just accept what someone looked up for you?

[xav8terx]

Certainly they are. Muslims are existing in the year 1400 where their pedophilic false prophet commands them to stone their daughters to death and hang homosexuals. I challenge you to find a Christian parallel to such barbarism in the year 2009.

Care to back that up or you just gonna stand behind your false god?

[Brian-W]

Again, show me the national law requiring children to live under Christian law. Until you can do that, you have nothing. There is no such law. You are simply reciting more moonbat hysteria.

I'm just telling you what happens in my local schools.

There's no "law" here. This is school policy.

I'll ask again, do you support it?

[MintJulep]

Care to back that up or you just gonna stand behind your false god?Notice the date; 10/23/09

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/muslim-honor-ki.html

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/10/24/20091024honorkill1024.html

[MintJulep]

I'm just telling you what happens in my local schools.

There's no "law" here. This is school policy.

I'll ask again, do you support it? I can't support something that I'm not aware of. It doesn't happen here or on a national level, unlike Shariah Law.

[Brian-W]

Certainly they are. Muslims are existing in the year 1400 where their pedophilic false prophet commands them to stone their daughters to death and hang homosexuals. I challenge you to find a Christian parallel to such barbarism in the year 2009.

Pedophiles and gay bashing.

Essential components to any good southern Christian church.

Praise the sweet sweet name of Jesus. Down with faggots and don't forget to bring your children to youth bible study this weekend. We'll be discussing the staff of god and the proper way to hold it.

[Brian-W]

I can't support something that I'm not aware of. It doesn't happen here or on a national level, unlike Shariah Law.

Too hot to touch that one, so you're just gonna dodge and squirm.

I understand, honesty is like Kryptonite to conservative Christians.

[xav8terx]

Notice the date; 10/23/09

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/muslim-honor-ki.html

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/10/24/20091024honorkill1024.html


And you people kill in the name of your false prophet as well, what is your point. Mine is, religions are one in the same; it's just a matter of how well you read. You can’t sit here and tell us that Christians haven’t done the same. People will read into what ever they want and twist it to fit their fucked up opinions…look at how many different flavors the bible offers. You don’t like this one well tell us what you think should happen and another one is born.

[xav8terx]

I can't support something that I'm not aware of. It doesn't happen here or on a national level, unlike Shariah Law.


So you close your eyes...LMAO...typical christian.

[Brian-W]

And you people kill in the name of your false prophet as well, what is your point. Mine is, religions are one in the same; it's just a matter of how well you read. You can’t sit here and tell us that Christians haven’t done the same. People will read into what ever they want and twist it to fit their fucked up opinions…look at how many different flavors the bible offers. You don’t like this one well tell us what you think should happen and another one is born.

Look at people like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, and Marsha Blackburn. You know same as me that people like that would like nothing better than to have forced prayers to Jesus in school as a national policy.

At heart, they are no different than muslim extremists. They just have civilized society holding them at bay.

[MintJulep]

Pedophiles and gay bashing.

Essential components to any good southern Christian church.

Praise the sweet sweet name of Jesus. Down with faggots and don't forget to bring your children to youth bible study this weekend. We'll be discussing the staff of god and the proper way to hold it.You made the claim we live in a Christian nation identical to Islamic theocracies. The point here is the Christian POV is not enforced by law, unlike the Islamic Shariah theocracies who stone their daughters, oppress women and kill to convert others to Islam.

Show me a Christian in the year 2009 who has killed their own child or strapped a bomb on him/her in order to kill the "infidel", non-believer.

[MintJulep]

Look at people like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, and Marsha Blackburn. You know same as me that people like that would like nothing better than to have forced prayers to Jesus in school as a national policy.

At heart, they are no different than muslim extremists. They just have civilized society holding them at bay.It is a matter of law, and there are none in existence to support the claim the US is identical to an Islamic theocracy. Just moonbat hysteria.