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Bill
07-06-2007, 02:33 AM
Makes sense to me - this whole article about evolutionary psychology and sex was pretty interesting.

"4. Most suicide bombers are Muslim

Suicide missions are not always religiously motivated, but according to Oxford University sociologist Diego Gambetta, editor of Making Sense of Suicide Missions, when religion is involved, the attackers are always Muslim. Why? The surprising answer is that Muslim suicide bombing has nothing to do with Islam or the Quran (except for two lines). It has a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence of sex.

What distinguishes Islam from other major religions is that it tolerates polygyny. By allowing some men to monopolize all women and altogether excluding many men from reproductive opportunities, polygyny creates shortages of available women. If 50 percent of men have two wives each, then the other 50 percent don't get any wives at all.

So polygyny increases competitive pressure on men, especially young men of low status. It therefore increases the likelihood that young men resort to violent means to gain access to mates. By doing so, they have little to lose and much to gain compared with men who already have wives. Across all societies, polygyny makes men violent, increasing crimes such as murder and rape, even after controlling for such obvious factors as economic development, economic inequality, population density, the level of democracy, and political factors in the region.

However, polygyny itself is not a sufficient cause of suicide bombing. Societies in sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean are much more polygynous than the Muslim nations in the Middle East and North Africa. And they do have very high levels of violence. Sub-Saharan Africa suffers from a long history of continuous civil wars—but not suicide bombings.

The other key ingredient is the promise of 72 virgins waiting in heaven for any martyr in Islam. The prospect of exclusive access to virgins may not be so appealing to anyone who has even one mate on earth, which strict monogamy virtually guarantees. However, the prospect is quite appealing to anyone who faces the bleak reality on earth of being a complete reproductive loser.

It is the combination of polygyny and the promise of a large harem of virgins in heaven that motivates many young Muslim men to commit suicide bombings. Consistent with this explanation, all studies of suicide bombers indicate that they are significantly younger than not only the Muslim population in general but other (nonsuicidal) members of their own extreme political organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. And nearly all suicide bombers are single. "

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20070622-000002.xml

kres24GT
07-06-2007, 06:21 AM
So why are married middle class American men not suicide bombers?

Mr. Blue
07-06-2007, 07:38 AM
So why are married middle class American men not suicide bombers?

Secretaries

Bill
07-06-2007, 05:25 PM
So why are married middle class American men not suicide bombers?

The author's point is that a polygamous society creates a surplus of young males that can only attract a female's attention thru extreme acts.

So, the suicide bombers are hoping some female will mate with them, once they annouce to their peers that they are going to become a martyr.

There's a chance that female will become pregnant, and that their genes will be passed on. And it may be the only chance they will have.

Wether it's true that it would be the only chance they have isn't relevant, it's the cultural perception that it _might_ be that causes it.

In other cultures, the bombers try to avoid being killed by their bombs - but in severe shariat muslim cultures, there's a perception of a better chance to get laid when you are going to kill yourself for islam.

To sweeten the pot, you got your 72 virgins, after the martyrdom. It's a clever exploitation of the cultural pattern that guarantees shock troops.

proving, according to the article, that polygamy has dominated the region for a long time - only a polygamous society would need to create a 72 virgins mythology as a way to control it's surplus young males.

Maj.Stress
07-06-2007, 11:16 PM
Secretaries
:thumbsup:

KevinG
07-07-2007, 01:44 AM
This article is rubbish.

The simple fact is that suicide bombers are bred from birth through political and religious indoctrination. Doesn't have anything to do with religion or politics? What a joke.

Lovelynice
07-08-2007, 12:27 PM
"4. Most suicide bombers are Muslim

But they aren't.

The group that uses the most suicide bombers are the Tamil Tigers, and they aren't muslim.

http://www.spur.asn.au/chronology_of_suicide_bomb_attacks_by_Tamil_Tigers _in_sri_Lanka.htm








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Bill
07-08-2007, 04:45 PM
But they aren't.

The group that uses the most suicide bombers are the Tamil Tigers, and they aren't muslim.

http://www.spur.asn.au/chronology_of_suicide_bomb_attacks_by_Tamil_Tigers _in_sri_Lanka.htm



I didn't say it, the author of the article said it.

Since I haven't looked at the numbers myself, I have no data.

But I do note that if the Tamils are doing a lot of suicide bombing, it doesn't make the news, altho their tiny airforce and brownwater navy attacks do.

Bill
07-08-2007, 04:55 PM
This article is rubbish.

The simple fact is that suicide bombers are bred from birth through political and religious indoctrination. Doesn't have anything to do with religion or politics? What a joke.

I didn't interpret the article as saying it didn't have _anything_ to do with religion and politics, altho the article does say "that Muslim suicide bombing has nothing to do with Islam or the Quran (except for two lines)".

It was addressing why young males have a greater motivation to suicide attacks in muslim cultures.

Either way, we have a huge wave of pissed off teenage boys, with little chance of mating, that we can look forward too.

I'm reminded of how the palestinians supposedly dealt with their "excess" fighters - they married them off. As I understand it, this is a very popular story in the middle east, altho I can't recall at this moment where I was reading this.

I can see all those iraqi boys thinking - "one way of the other, if I become a suicide warrior, I'm gonna get laid... either the virgins, or the old men will have to find me a wife to get me to stop fighting.".

Lovelynice
07-08-2007, 07:07 PM
But I do note that if the Tamils are doing a lot of suicide bombing, it doesn't make the news, altho their tiny airforce and brownwater navy attacks do.

It does in Australia from my experience, probably because it's closer to their region, but I think the media elsewhere are generally bored with the continuing conflict.

Mr. Blue
07-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Sex though is often a motivating factor...Look at the American Revolution (what?? This is an obscure history theory one professor I had preached)

The American Revolution was less about representation and taxation...it was more about the British troops hooking up with American Chicks. That's right...There were more British troops in America (I believe it was the seven years war...but my memory is foggy). Well, fewer American chicks, some pissed off Americans...I'm just saying...I'd probably go to war if I wasn't getting any.