Libertarians amuze us, where do they live?

[MichMike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0

[xav8terx]

I love that video.

[kres24GT]

That doesn't make any more sense than it did last time you posted it. Not everyone wants government involved in their lives Mike, they want to be free to live their lives as they see fit as long as they don't hurt others. Fascists like yourself want to end that freedom, you can't expect them to be OK with it.

[xav8terx]

That doesn't make any more sense than it did last time you posted it. Not everyone wants government involved in their lives Mike, they want to be free to live their lives as they see fit as long as they don't hurt others. Fascists like yourself want to end that freedom, you can't expect them to be OK with it.

And now you have...Cholera!!! :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[kres24GT]

And now you have...Cholera!!! :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Lek I said, it doesn't make any sense in reference to Libertarians. It's great fascist propaganda though, i will give that. "Turn over all your freedom to government, or this is what will happen."

[xav8terx]

Lek I said, it doesn't make any sense in reference to Libertarians. It's great fascist propaganda though, i will give that. "Turn over all your freedom to government, or this is what will happen."


Get rid of government and put everything into the hands of citizens and Somalia will happen.

[kres24GT]

Get rid of government and put everything into the hands of citizens and Somalia will happen.


I agree, and so do Libertarians, that is why they are not for no government.

[MichMike]

I agree, and so do Libertarians, that is why they are not for no government.


You do realize that there are many difference types of Libertarians?

Fine. Then you realize some do believe that all government is bad.

Regardless, even the more moderate Libertarians are never going to be more than 2 percent in the real world.

...And now you have...Cholera!!!

[Citizen]

You mean anarchists. Fucking morons! I hope you die in a violent fire.

[Captain Obvious]

You mean anarchists. Fucking morons! I hope you die in a violent fire.

Citizen - you're ok.

Always upbeat.

:lmao2:

[xav8terx]

You mean anarchists. Fucking morons! I hope you die in a violent fire.


Which again, is part of the libertarian movement...and with libertarians...you will die from the fire because the private fire departments will be too busy fighting over who gets your contract.

[Citizen]

Which again, is part of the libertarian movement...and with libertarians...you will die from the fire because the private fire departments will be too busy fighting over who gets your contract.

I tried having a well thought out conversation with you but you gave up. Don't tell me you forgot because I kept reminding you to jump back on the thread.

Gee, Libertarians first priority is to tear down fire departments. My God there really is no talking to any of you.

[xav8terx]

I tried having a well thought out conversation with you but you gave up. Don't tell me you forgot because I kept reminding you to jump back on the thread.

Gee, Libertarians first priority is to tear down fire departments. My God there really is no talking to any of you.


And i replied if you recall correctly. However that didnt change my opinion about what your goals really are but of course even libertarians as a group can't even agree on anything so how are the rest of us supposed to get it?

[Citizen]

I believe in abstract thought, creative thinking, open discussions, etc. to solve societal problems. The Libertarians platform has this unlike modern liberalism which I consider to be actually more conservative than Libertarians or classical Liberalism.

[MichMike]

I believe in abstract thought, creative thinking, open discussions, etc. to solve societal problems. The Libertarians platform has this unlike modern liberalism which I consider to be actually more conservative than Libertarians or classical Liberalism.


...and telling people to kill themselves. Now back to regular programming.

[kres24GT]

You do realize that there are many difference types of Libertarians?

Fine. Then you realize some do believe that all government is bad.

Regardless, even the more moderate Libertarians are never going to be more than 2 percent in the real world.

...And now you have...Cholera!!!


Those are called anarchists. I am assuming you don't know the difference.

[kres24GT]

Which again, is part of the libertarian movement...and with libertarians...you will die from the fire because the private fire departments will be too busy fighting over who gets your contract.

Should have gotten better service then.

[Citizen]

...and telling people to kill themselves. Now back to regular programming.

Anytime you are willing to have an open discussion but you'll never be so kill yourself.

[kres24GT]

People like Mike and xav, they think things can only be achieved through government. Their one and only solution to every problem is more government.

[MichMike]

Those are called anarchists. I am assuming you don't know the difference.


Yawn. You people are funny.

Yes, there are people that call themselves Libertarian Anarchists. The spectrum of Libertarianism extends to hundreds of different labels and derivatives. We could discuss them, but - while some elements can be applied in the real world - no one subset has ever or will ever work. Yawn.

[MichMike]

Anytime you are willing to have an open discussion but you'll never be so kill yourself.

Big guy. I've posted miles of information on environmental, financial services (my industry) and health information as well as the random post on political philosophy. You are normally absent. Anytime you want to discuss something of real value I am open to it, but your kind doesn't normally like the moderate view of anything. If you want to explain where Libertarianism works (or even the elements you like) we're on. The meanstream Libertarian party is a joke IMO. It works on paper, it falls down the real world.

[MichMike]

People like Mike and xav, they think things can only be achieved through government. Their one and only solution to every problem is more government.

Strawman alert. Find a post that suggests this? Fetch

[xav8terx]

People like Mike and xav, they think things can only be achieved through government. Their one and only solution to every problem is more government.


History has pretty much proven this assumption.

[kres24GT]

Strawman alert. Find a post that suggests this? Fetch

Besides this thread?

[kres24GT]

Strawman alert. Find a post that suggests this? Fetch


Just the opposite, history shows us the bigger government get the worse off it is.

[Citizen]

Big guy. I've posted miles of information on environmental, financial services (my industry) and health information as well as the random post on political philosophy. You are normally absent. Anytime you want to discuss something of real value I am open to it, but your kind doesn't normally like the moderate view of anything. If you want to explain where Libertarianism works (or even the elements you like) we're on. The meanstream Libertarian party is a joke IMO. It works on paper, it falls down the real world.

You really think biased language will lead to an open and thoughtful, discussion? I wonder how much of that information was plagiarized and not cited. lol

[Hog Trash]

On a level just above the rest of you...

Several levels above the socialist morons...

[Hog Trash]

Which again, is part of the libertarian movement...and with libertarians...you will die from the fire because the private fire departments will be too busy fighting over who gets your contract.Apparently you haven't an inkling what the differance is between "socialism", which libertarians detest, and the "common good" which is what the Fire Department is you referred to.

[xav8terx]

On a level just above the rest of you...

Several levels above the socialist morons...

So then why hasn't your failed political party ever gained any ground...sorry but your "The masses are sheep" excuse just wont cut it. If you are so far a head of everyone then you would have figured out a way to reach them.

[MichMike]

You really think biased language will lead to an open and thoughtful, discussion?


Was this posted by you? LOL. Again, a one sentence post with no substance.

Yes, good discussions can start with politically leaning statements.

[xav8terx]

Apparently you haven't an inkling what the differance is between "socialism", which libertarians detest, and the "common good" which is what the Fire Department is you referred to.


It is you that have it confused. Anything you agree with is common good, anything you dont...like helping out the colored folk we've been fuckin since the beginning of America..is socialism.

[Citizen]

Was this posted by you? LOL. Again, a one sentence post with no substance.

Yes, good discussions can start with politically leaning statements.

"Oh gee he called my party a joke. Hmmm... sounds like someone who would be open to a thoughtful discussion." You don't get it.

[MichMike]

"Oh gee he called my party a joke. Hmmm... sounds like someone who would be open to a thoughtful discussion." You don't get it.

Believe me, I do get it. At 2 percent of the vote, it might benefit you to convince some of us. Do you get it?

[Hog Trash]

It is you that have it confused. Anything you agree with is common good, anything you dont...like helping out the colored folk we've been fuckin since the beginning of America..is socialism.Just because you find ten idiots who will agree that a banana is an apple, doesn't make it so.

If you promise some people a free ride and something for nothing, they will agree with anything.

[xav8terx]

Just because you find ten idiots who will agree that a banana is an apple, doesn't make it so.

If you promise some people a free ride and something for nothing, they will agree with anything.



Really? Thats exactly why there is 2% of the population who agrees with the libertarians.

[MichMike]

Besides this thread?


Quote me suggesting that "government in the ONLY answer."


As usual you are resorting to lies.

[Hog Trash]

Really? Thats exactly why there is 2% of the population who agrees with the libertarians.Actually that percentage is much higher, most people just don't realize they are libertarians.

[MichMike]

Actually that percentage is much higher, most people just don't realize they are libertarians.


LOL. So there is a mysterious Libertarian fog that rolls in every election day...forcing millions of people to vote against the Ron Paul's of the world.

Possible I suppose, although the philosophy has been around a long time and received a lot of attention.

Of course, some people might actually be fine with teachers and police.


Freak.

[MichMike]

kres24GT???? Don't lie. Come out with your proof.

[Hog Trash]

Really? Thats exactly why there is 2% of the population who agrees with the libertarians.LOL. So there is a mysterious Libertarian fog that rolls in every election day...forcing millions of people to vote against the Ron Paul's of the world.

Possible I suppose, although the philosophy has been around a long time and received a lot of attention.

Of course, some people might actually be fine with teachers and police.


Freak.Libertarians are the free thinkers, visionaries and political pioneers of the human race...We are the future.

I am too strong of character to abandon my principles simply because they are not shared by the majority.

The tallest tree in the forest was once the tiniest sapling on the forest floor but this did not deter the sapling.

It spread it's roots and reached for the sky one inch at a time untill it broke free above the top of the forest.

[Citizen]

Actually that percentage is much higher, most people just don't realize they are libertarians.

+1
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[Hog Trash]

+1
..........Yes, I stated that earlier.

That's what motivated me to start the libertarian Purity Test thread.

[Captain Obvious]

Yes, I stated that earlier.

That's what motivated me to start the libertarian quiz thread.

Define Libertarian, would you Sir Hog?

[Hog Trash]

Define Libertarian, would you Sir Hog?That would vary depending on what degree of libertarian you happen to be...I define myself as a libertarian conservative.

I believe in a small constitutional government with minimal taxation, personal responsibility and freedom to live life as you see fit.

Free from government intrusion or restrictions as long as it doesnt intrude into someone elses rights and freedom.

No one should be told who to hire or what to pay them or how to operate their business or raise their children or whether they can have a clothes line in their back yard.

Property rights...I do not smoke but strongly believe the owner of a business should be the only one to decide whether his business will allow smoking or not.

If their is a market for a non-smoking bar, a wise entrepreneur will open one and if it's in damand he will make money...Let the owner and the market decide.

All drugs should be legal...I you want to shoot dope in your veins go right ahead...It's none of my business, just don't break into my house to steel your dope money.

Because if you do break into my house, as a libertarian I will have the right to own a gun and protect myself, my family and my property and I will blow your ass away.

I'm tired and am only giving you the simple basics....Google Libertarian and you can get the big picture...Their are some things even I strongly disagree with.

[kres24GT]

Quote me suggesting that "government in the ONLY answer."


As usual you are resorting to lies.

How many threads do you want me to to link to where you are clamoring for more government?