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Bill
06-17-2007, 10:27 PM
"While this continues, and children's exposure to real chemistry is stifled, our national science scores are plummeting. People are getting out of high school without ever having fired up a Bunsen burner. Now more than ever, innovation is needed for the United States to compete in the global economy. Visionaries like Gordon Moore, Vint Cerf, and David Packard all acquired their love of science and technology by enjoying real hands on chemistry as children. By legislating away amateur chemistry and rocketry, we are depriving an entire generation of potential innovators that same chance. All in the name of a little extra false security. “People who want to make meth will find ways to do it that don’t require an Erlenmeyer flask. But raising a generation of people who are technically incompetent is a recipe for disaster.” says Bill Nye."

http://memepunks.blogspot.com/2006/06/americas-war-on-science.html?dupe=with_honor

"There is an unseen war going on in America. It's part of the war on drugs, part of the war on terror, and part of consumer safety. As an emergent side effect of these, and some additional foolishness, America is waging war on science. While the government targets terrorists, drug makers and illegal fireworks, it's the arm chair chemists and curious youngsters that get caught in the crossfire. The government has enabled legislation that makes DIY chemistry impossible without violating laws. And in so doing, we are sowing salt into the soil of our own future. Years ago, chemistry sets geared toward children and model rockets were simply part of growing up as a youngster in middle America. Some of my fondest childhood memories involve standing over the metal cabinet of my Chemcraft chemistry set, wearing over sized adult safety goggles and scrawling notes on my latest bubbling concoction, or launching an Estes rocket in the park.

But many of the youth of today will never get that chance. The Consumer Product Saftey Division has made it a point to outlaw chemicals that can be used to make illegal fireworks. Chemicals like sulfur and potassium perchlorate, that would have been standard issue in any lab experiment of yesteryear are now contraband. The CPSD, best known for its issuing of recalls for consumer goods, claims that this ban is in effect to reduce injuries from home made fireworks. The fact of the matter is that 98% of all firework related injuries are caused by off the shelf fireworks. All of this CPSD nonsense is to cut down on the other 2%."

kres24GT
06-18-2007, 09:44 AM
Big Government!!!! Catch the fever!!!!

psikeyhackr
06-25-2007, 02:10 AM
Use the internet in the Global Mind War.

http://booksliterature.com/showthread.php?t=1527

psik

Bill
06-25-2007, 03:30 PM
That's a nice list of books, psik, and reading sf and reading in general is one of the ways to fight the War on Intelligence and the Sciences.

But reading only goes so far - people need to be able to get hands on.

It don't really matter I suppose - just another shovel of dirt on the coffin of america's youth.

psikeyhackr
06-25-2007, 11:06 PM
That's a nice list of books, psik, and reading sf and reading in general is one of the ways to fight the War on Intelligence and the Sciences.

But reading only goes so far - people need to be able to get hands on.

Agreed! Hands on makes it real.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/discoverthis_1953_28704329
http://www.discoverthis.com/engine-kits.html

psikey

Bill
06-26-2007, 04:15 PM
Internal combustion?

Pretty old fashioned.

It makes me sad to think that kids today can't play with rockets.

I'm not necessarily the best advocate. My younger brother blew off a couple of fingers in my teenage chem lab, so I'm hardly a representative of responsible chemistry.

Still, it's sad to think of a sky with no rockets.

Mr. Blue
06-26-2007, 04:54 PM
This has less to do with a war on science and more to do with a culture of whining crybabies.

They ban chemicals because some doofus blows off a finger. They ban fireworks because heavens if parents should actually take some responsibility. Companies change their food items because people can't eat responsibly. We spend billions on diet pills, weird weight loss programs, and other nonsense because we make it like "fat" is an illness that we don't know have the cure for (this one pisses me off like you can't imagine). It goes on and on and on.

One person complains, a company, the government, whatever, decides to change things for everyone just because of some incidents.

Natural Fucking Selection...that's right, lets bring back Darwinism. If people are too stupid to handle living...sorry, that's they're problem...not mine. Don't change the rules for everyone because you feel you have to protect the few.

I set my first rocket off when I was 10 years old (yes my science teacher gave me an A for it), I had my first chemistry set when I was 11 (Stink bombs own), I carried a pocket knife for as long as I can remember. I used "illegal" fireworks when I was 12 (I still got all my fingers).

What a whining pathetic country we're becoming. Being a kid today consists of sitting on the couch playing video games. Yeah, that just spells success.

psikeyhackr
06-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Internal combustion?

Pretty old fashioned.

It makes me sad to think that kids today can't play with rockets.

I'm not necessarily the best advocate. My younger brother blew off a couple of fingers in my teenage chem lab, so I'm hardly a representative of responsible chemistry.

Still, it's sad to think of a sky with no rockets.

I'll give you rockets!

http://www.bestmodelrocketsengines.com/images/rrr-stratos_9ipw.jpg

http://www.bestmodelrocketsengines.com/

That was really weird how they banned turbine engines from the Indy 500 after one almost won in 1968. The airlines used to overhaul their piston engines every 400 hours of operation but when they switched to jets they went 10,000 hours between overhauls. Turbines don't shake themselves apart like that piston clankin' garbage.

When I built that Visible V-8 in the 60's it didn't have a hand crank. There was an electric motor in the starter housing. I wonder if they still have lights that come on for the spark plugs. The future ain't what it used to be.

psik