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Life_Long_Dem!
09-05-2009, 01:39 PM
small portion of an article I found...there is way more than this to it but this portion is most telling. Read it and tell me if what he says is true or partially true and or if HIS comments do not really help much.


"The religious right is fomenting this kind of hatred in this country at our peril. I really do think that the Michele Bachmanns of the world and the Glenn Becks of the world are actively and consciously, or subconsciously, trying to get - I'm just going to say it, trying to get the president killed. That's why they're setting this up as kill or be killed arguments. He's going to kill your grandma, pull the plug on grandma, death panels that little children have to go in front of."

"This kind of rhetoric - this paranoid style on the religious right - from Birchers to birthers - doesn't usually end well. And, somebody's got to put the brakes on it and unfortunately for the Republican Party, there's no adults left in the room - only the Michele Bachmanns and the Glenn Becks and the Rush Limbaughs running the show."

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/09/dan_savage_bach.php

MintJulep
09-05-2009, 02:23 PM
Cry me a river, LLD. These people would do anything to silence criticism of their Messiah and his now-tarnished halo.

If the unmitigated hatred of George Bush wasn't considered dangerous, the criticism of your glorious Savior is a walk in the park in comparison.

Binky
09-05-2009, 02:33 PM
Personally, I like getting info from Beck and others. It gives me different takes on it. I then choose the one to believe. With what all has been going on in this country over the last year, I'd have to say that it appears there are many, many individuals, and organizations that are driven to bringing about the distruction of America. There is a war on freedom going on in this country. And I damn sure like to learn all I can from those in the know as to what is going on that the mainstream media won't clue us in on.....

Life_Long_Dem!
09-05-2009, 02:34 PM
I did not say a word in defense of or against what he says....trying to get a real feel of it before I express my opinion...hence the reason why i ask for others thoughts...was gonna wait but hell I will add my two cents now.

Yes Bush got a LOT of flack over his 8 years, some well deserved some not so deserved....BUT by comparison what people are spewing about Obama makes the Bush years seem like a friggin walk in the park. To say that this is all just tit for tat or an eye for an eye is BULLSHIT! and ignorant blind narrowminded talk...TWO WRONGS NEVER MAKE ARIGHT......EVER! To sit there and say that the crap said about Obama's under age girls.....some of which you ll7 have said yourself...is justifiable because the "libs" did it to Bush is assinine and child like in nature, as I have stated before I did not condone any outrageous over the top trashing of Bush and dont condone those that do it to Obama, Glenn Becks calling Obama a racist that has a deep hatred for "white" America is unjustified racebaiting and uncalled for...Limbaugh calling Obama and the Dems nazi's is laughable bs and the daily rants on this board most of the time make me sick to my stomach and ashamed to call myself an American...let me ask this and PLEASE be truthful about it...if we elected a white, little more towards the center democrat would this shit being said about Obama who is Black and just a bit more liberal than SOME like actually be happening.

Smurf-Herder
09-05-2009, 02:44 PM
All it is, is an attempt to shut down debate and prevent people from listening, through character assassination.

Life_Long_Dem!
09-05-2009, 02:48 PM
All it is, is an attempt to shut down debate and prevent people from listening, through character assassination.

Listen to what...half truths, distortions and outright lies, especially on health care? I agree on the character assassinations , being HEAVILY weighed against Obama...some true...ALOT not true I ca not believe that this shit is happening to this country right now, it is very sad:(

MintJulep
09-05-2009, 02:49 PM
All it is, is an attempt to shut down debate and prevent people from listening, through character assassination.
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it". -Alinsky's Rule #12 for Radicals.

We know that tired playbook, oh too well.

Life_Long_Dem!
09-05-2009, 02:51 PM
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it". -Alinsky's Rule #12 for Radicals.

We know that tired playbook, oh too well.
see your ignoring my reply...way to go ll7:lmao2:

and those on the right pick their targets, freeze, personalize and polarize as well dont try to claim it doesnt happen cause it does.

MintJulep
09-05-2009, 02:53 PM
see your ignoring my reply...way to go ll7:lmao2:I'm not ignoring it. However, it would take me a little more time to reply. My post to Smurf was an quick one-liner I wanted to add. Okay?

Life_Long_Dem!
09-05-2009, 02:53 PM
I'm not ignoring it. However, it would take me a little more time to reply. My post to Smurf was an quick one-liner I wanted to add. Okay?
okie dokie then smokie:hi:

foxbaron
09-05-2009, 04:32 PM
I did not say a word in defense of or against what he says....trying to get a real feel of it before I express my opinion...hence the reason why i ask for others thoughts...was gonna wait but hell I will add my two cents now.

Yes Bush got a LOT of flack over his 8 years, some well deserved some not so deserved....BUT by comparison what people are spewing about Obama makes the Bush years seem like a friggin walk in the park. To say that this is all just tit for tat or an eye for an eye is BULLSHIT! and ignorant blind narrowminded talk...TWO WRONGS NEVER MAKE ARIGHT......EVER! To sit there and say that the crap said about Obama's under age girls.....some of which you ll7 have said yourself...is justifiable because the "libs" did it to Bush is assinine and child like in nature, as I have stated before I did not condone any outrageous over the top trashing of Bush and dont condone those that do it to Obama, Glenn Becks calling Obama a racist that has a deep hatred for "white" America is unjustified racebaiting and uncalled for...Limbaugh calling Obama and the Dems nazi's is laughable bs and the daily rants on this board most of the time make me sick to my stomach and ashamed to call myself an American...let me ask this and PLEASE be truthful about it...if we elected a white, little more towards the center democrat would this shit being said about Obama who is Black and just a bit more liberal than SOME like actually be happening.


If the white, little more towards center democrat had been elected, and did the same crap Obama has done, to include appointing unelected Czars and admitted communists as advisers I suspect the complaints would be the same or even more. The only thing Obama has that the white, center democrat doesn't have is, Obama can pull out the race card which he and his cronies seem to favor when his policies can't stand scrutiny or his czars get questioned about their beliefs or lack of for our republic.

MintJulep
09-05-2009, 04:35 PM
If the white, little more towards center democrat had been elected, and did the same crap Obama has done, to include appointing unelected Czars and admitted communists as advisers I suspect the complaints would be the same or even more. The only thing Obama has that the white, center democrat doesn't have is, Obama can pull out the race card which he and his cronies seem to favor when his policies can't stand scrutiny or his czars get questioned about their beliefs or lack of for our republic.Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

Binky
09-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!



:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Zebulon0351
09-05-2009, 05:02 PM
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

So you just waited for someone else to reply so you can jump on board with their opinion?

MintJulep
09-05-2009, 05:06 PM
So you just waited for someone else to reply so you can jump on board with their opinion?Ummmm, no. I happen to agree wholeheartedly in case that isn't obvious.

Zebulon0351
09-05-2009, 05:12 PM
Ummmm, no. I happen to agree wholeheartedly in case that isn't obvious.

Just making sure.. but... you were asked for a response to his post, and you told him you needed a little more time to respond. Then an hour and a half later someone else throws in a response. How much time did you need? Did you just ignore his post altogether?

Binky
09-05-2009, 05:42 PM
:D Better watch out LL, Zeb is timin' ya.....you've got his full attention girl. :lmao2:

MintJulep
09-05-2009, 11:52 PM
Yes Bush got a LOT of flack over his 8 years, some well deserved some not so deserved....BUT by comparison what people are spewing about Obama makes the Bush years seem like a friggin walk in the park. To say that this is all just tit for tat or an eye for an eye is BULLSHIT! and ignorant blind narrowminded talk...TWO WRONGS NEVER MAKE ARIGHT......EVER! To sit there and say that the crap said about Obama's under age girls.....some of which you ll7 have said yourself...is justifiable because the "libs" did it to Bush is assinine and child like in nature, as I have stated before I did not condone any outrageous over the top trashing of Bush and dont condone those that do it to Obama What is the old saying, you reap what you sow?

Yep. That's it. :)

Glenn Becks calling Obama a racist that has a deep hatred for "white" America is unjustified racebaiting and uncalled for...It is completely justified and a legitimate observation. When you take one incident of Obama's, it can be dismissed as anything. When you take every piece of the puzzle; things he has said, the majority of his associations, you see the big picture, which is someone with an axe to grind with "whitey" and a chip on the shoulder.

I feel the same way Beck does. And I felt that way long before he said the police officers acting "stupidly" before he knew jack about the case, but that was only more icing on the cake. Now, he's nominated another racist, hater as the 50th "Czar", needless to say, this rocket scientist race-baiter cannot even define what a green job is........

We are royally screwed with this idiot.

Limbaugh calling Obama and the Dems nazi's is laughable bs and the daily rants on this board most of the time make me sick to my stomach and ashamed to call myself an American...let me ask this and PLEASE be truthful about it...if we elected a white, little more towards the center democrat would this shit being said about Obama who is Black and just a bit more liberal than SOME like actually be happening.Like the guy said in this thread, the only difference would be the moderate white democrat could not pull the race card any time his/her policies came under scrutiny or were opposed.

For a President who was going to be a "uniter" and would transcend race, he has turned out to be the biggest race-baiting, lying POS to walk the planet.

foxbaron
09-06-2009, 02:40 AM
Just making sure.. but... you were asked for a response to his post, and you told him you needed a little more time to respond. Then an hour and a half later someone else throws in a response. How much time did you need? Did you just ignore his post altogether?


Hey, I think she gave a pretty intelligent response. Maybe she likes to think a bit before jumping off.

Is there a time limit to answer a post? I wasn't aware of it.

Zebulon0351
09-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Hey, I think she gave a pretty intelligent response. Maybe she likes to think a bit before jumping off.

Is there a time limit to answer a post? I wasn't aware of it.


No there isn't at all. I'm glad she decided to answer the post finally rather than jump on the back of another one. Thanks LL.

disrupter
09-08-2009, 12:44 PM
Imagine that during the Bush-Cheney regime someone was detained by the Secret Service for having a silly bumpersticker that said 'Off With His Head'.

The radical right are mass murdering traitors,
& if you love America you have to restrain & if necessary, eliminate them, for the sake of your nation & everything you love & cherish.