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bairdi
09-05-2009, 09:18 AM
I think the events in this story offer a rather unique view of several concepts worth discussion. I am not quite sure what lessons can be gathered from this, but it seems to me that the island presents a micro society living under small government and shows some of the problems that could occur. I would be interested in any thoughts any of you might have as to how this story relates to both politics and this discussion board.

Lobster wars rock remote Maine island
Violence flares in community where crews have outlaw reputation
The Associated Press
updated 7:43 a.m. ET, Sat., Sept . 5, 2009

MATINICUS ISLAND, Maine - Life here is defined by the ocean. It's the ocean that feeds the livelihoods of the lobstermen. It's the ocean that dictates the weather. And it's 20 miles of ocean that separates Matinicus from the mainland and makes it a world apart.

The ocean's bountiful waters have also been a source of strife here for as long as anyone can remember.

Lobster fishermen have feuded for generations over who can set traps, and where. To protect their fishing grounds, the lobstermen here have been known to cut trap lines, circle their boats menacingly around unwelcome vessels and fire warning blasts from shotguns.

With lobster prices down, the animosity has been particularly shrill this summer.

On a July morning, it reached the boiling point when a longtime lobsterman and his daughter drew guns on two fellow islanders. The lobsterman fired, shooting a man he had known for decades in the neck, police reported.

The shooting has shone a spotlight on a long-standing territorial system all along the ragged Maine coast that gives fishermen unofficial rights to specified waters. The rights are legally unenforceable but important and usually accepted.

Nowhere are they more strictly enforced than around Matinicus Island, home to a fleet of three dozen lobster boats whose crews have a reputation for outlaw behavior.

"Every harbor in the state has a piece of bottom they call their own. I would be willing to bet every fishing harbor in the world does the same thing and has been doing it since man went out in a boat to fish," said Clayton Philbrook, a lifelong Matinicus fisherman. "It's just that we've gotten the reputation that we do seriously hold the line. We have to."

Matinicus has a reason for feeling that it's on its own. Slightly smaller than New York's Central Park, the island is the farthest offshore of Maine's 15 year-round island communities. It's so isolated that the ferry only comes once a month in wintertime, when barely two dozen people live there. There are no restaurants or gas stations, and islanders fax their orders to a mainland grocery store.

Hostility
Locals now want the state to create a special zone around Matinicus so only full-time residents can fish the waters. Such a move would cut down on the hostility while ensuring the island community's viability, lobstermen say.

"We have a golden area to fish in," Ron Watkinson said as he prepared to go out to his boat in Matinicus Harbor before sunrise one recent morning. "Instead of us having to enforce the boundaries, the Marine Patrol would enforce them."

Matinicus lobstermen fish with more than 20,000 traps and there's only so much ocean bottom to go around. Some liken the fishermen to the pioneers who claimed farmland in frontier America.

"The only difference between this place and the family farms that were settled out West is our land is covered with water," said Marty Molloy, who lives on Matinicus and runs a business buying lobsters from fishermen.

Marine Patrol Col. Joseph Fessenden said he respects the unofficial, self-policing territorial system that lobstermen live by — but laws must be respected.

"We don't let them do their cowboy thing," Fessenden said.

Vandalism and violence to enforce the unwritten rules have cropped up in many places. This summer, in Owls Head along the state's midcoast, somebody sank two lobster boats and partially sank a third. And once in Portland Harbor, a crew rammed their boat into another vessel, jumped aboard and struggled with the other crew before being tossed overboard.

Still, Matinicus has more than its share of run-ins — from smelly bait herring dumped in a gasoline tank, disabling a boat, to raccoons, considered pests, dumped on the island, apparently by a man prevented from fishing there. A few years ago, two island fishermen were charged after one fired a shotgun across the bow of the other's boat when it crossed his wake at high speed.

But this summer saw a more serious incident.

Alan Miller knew he wasn't welcome to set his traps in waters around Matinicus. Miller, 59, is from Wheelers Bay, a small mainland harbor 20 miles across Penobscot Bay, but he reckoned he was entitled to fish Matinicus waters because his wife, Janan, and his father-in-law, Vance Bunker, were lifelong Matinicus residents.

Secret ballots
Bunker, who has homes on the island and the mainland, shared his son-in-law's belief.

But others disagreed. Matinicus lobstermen had voted more than once against allowing Miller to fish around the island. The votes were cast in secret ballots at annual meetings fishermen used to hold the first Sunday of each June in the basement of the island's white-steepled church. (Fishermen put an end to the meetings two years ago after being accused of conspiracy in a still-pending federal lawsuit filed by a lobsterman who had been voted down.)

Nonetheless, Miller this year set hundreds of his traps with their Day-Glo pink buoys in Matinicus waters. Predictably, it wasn't long before somebody cut the lines to many traps, leaving them sitting on the ocean bottom. Replacing a trap can cost $70 to $100.

"He's from Wheelers Bay," said Matinicus lobsterman David A. Ames. "If I went to Wheelers Bay and set my traps, they'd be gone the next day."

Early on the morning of July 20, Marine Patrol officers were called to the island on a report of an altercation between Bunker and Chris Young, a 41-year-old Matinicus lobsterman.

Bunker, 68, grew up with Young's father and has known the son all his life. But tempers were hot that morning. Bunker told officers Young jumped on his boat at 5:45 a.m., accused him of cutting his trap lines and tussled with him, so he sprayed Young with pepper spray.

A short time later, officers received a report that Matinicus fishermen were circling their boats around Miller's vessel outside the harbor. Marine Patrol police responded, and Officer Wes Dean rode back into the harbor on Miller's boat as a precaution. They arrived at Steamboat Wharf at about 10 a.m.

That was when Bunker pulled up to the wharf in a pickup truck and confronted Young and Weston Ames, Young's sternman — and when Janan Miller stepped out from behind a stack of lobster traps and leveled a 12-gauge shotgun at Young and Ames, according to investigators' reports.

When Ames tried to push the shotgun barrel away, Bunker pulled a pistol from his holster and fired at him, police said. He missed.

Bunker turned, took aim at Young and fired again, investigators said. The bullet struck Young in the neck and he fell to the ground.

Dean, the Marine Patrol officer, scrambled up and ordered Bunker to drop his weapon.

Self-defense?
The wounded Young was flown to a mainland hospital, where he underwent surgery. The bullet fragmented upon impact, with parts of it coming within 3 millimeters of Young's spinal column, according to a lawsuit he filed against Bunker; it also said Young suffered serious neurological damage in his hands and arm.

Bunker said he shot in self-defense, claiming he had been threatened in the previous days and that he pulled his gun because he feared that he and his daughter were going to be shot when Ames grabbed for the shotgun.

"When there's a lot of verbal threatening going on and people threatening to kill you or threatening to beat you up or threatening to kill your family, I feel you better pay attention to make sure they ain't going do it," Bunker said in an interview with The Associated Press.

A pillar of the community on Matinicus, who won a prestigious Carnegie Hero award for helping save two crewmen from a sinking tugboat on a frigid January night in 1992, Bunker remains free on $125,000 bail.

The wharf encounter was the first time anyone remembers a lobsterman in Maine being shot in a dispute over fishing grounds.

"It gives us all a bad name," said Darlene Ames, who works as a sternman on her husband's boat.

The reality, islanders insist, is that Matinicus is a quiet community where people work hard and help their neighbors.

Nat Hussey moved from the mainland to Matinicus in 2006 with his wife and three children. Hussey is a lawyer, but he now makes a living on a lobster boat where he spends his days filling bait bags and banding lobster claws with rubber bands.

"Your neighbors aren't just people you wave to here," Hussey said. "They're people you rely on, and who rely on you."

Out here, not only does everybody know everybody, they know the sound each other's vehicles make while traveling the island's 4.1 miles of dirt roads. Islanders drive rusting pickup trucks with busted-out headlights and taillights and leave their keys in the ignition. They aren't required to get their vehicles inspected, and many don't have license plates.

Residents think of their 2-by-1-mile island — where just five children attended the K-8 school last year — as a world unto itself.

They jokingly refer to the mainland as America and have hung a "Matinicus International Air-Strip" sign at the island's 1,528-foot dirt-and-gravel airstrip. Penobscot Island Air flies a seven-seat plane from the mainland for $50 one-way, weather permitting; rain and fog often ground the flights. A water taxi will take you from island to shore for $50, again subject to the unpredictable weather and seas.

There's little tourism. A small bed-and-breakfast, a gift shop and a store where people can pick up sandwich makings, beer, chips and ice cream are about the only businesses.

For the most part, islanders like things just the way they are.

"We don't want a big influx of people coming to the island, because we can't accommodate it," said Donna Rogers, an artist who has lived here with her lobsterman husband for some 30 years.

Tough times
Maine accounts for 80 percent of the nation's lobster catch. The state's nearly 6,000 licensed fishermen caught nearly 70 million pounds in 2008. The most successful fishermen, known as "highliners," can make more than $100,000 a year after expenses, though many fall short of that.

The waters of Penobscot Bay, where Matinicus is located, are as productive as any. But times are tough these days. This summer, lobstermen have been getting under $3 a pound for their catch, about $1 less than in recent years.

It would help greatly, locals say, if the state would approve their request to create an official Matinicus fishing zone where outsiders would be barred from setting traps — similar to zones off two other Maine islands, Monhegan and Swan's.

Clayton Philbrook, whose family has been here since the 1820s, says he doesn't want his son, Nick — a 28-year-old who named his boat "Destitute" — to be the last of the Philbrook line to fish here.

"If we lose control of the bottom so people can't make a living, the town's gone. That's it," Clayton Philbrook said. "And we don't want that."

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slowhand
09-05-2009, 12:40 PM
I was a full time commercial fiaherman untill 2006 when Parkinsons Disease forced me to sell my 47' fishing twawler..(dragger)..I fished for 34 years, and I know all about this shit..There are men who fish with fixed gear, ie lobster traps, and men like myself who fish with mobile gear, ie trawl nets

Trawler fishermen have been in conflict over fishing grounds for over a century, and many times it came to fist fights on the dock over territory, because of mobile gear fishermen dragging up lobster traps and cutting their lines and discarding their traps in the rough ground where we cant drag..They would retaliate by dumping anything from rolls of barbed wire, to old refrigerators in the drag ground to fuck up our nets

There however is a huge difference between the demeanor of fixed and mobile gear fishermen..Mobile gear fishermen, arent anywhere near as territorial as lobstermen..We have our spats occasionally, but we get along with each other fairly well, some of us like brothers

Not the case with lobstermen..They are very territorial..Before the National Marine Fisheries Service..NMFS..imposed trap limits according to historical participation in the fishery, I know a guy who spent $7000 on traps to saturate on piece of ground so that no one else could fish there..They dont get along with each other for the most part, and connstantly are chopping up each others gear..When I was fishing, and wandered into any trap area, I would catch a half dozen or so lobster traps in my net, fathoms of lobster pot warp..(rope)..plastic bait bags, bait barrels..They dump all their shit overboard..They are fucking pigs..Years ago they used to fish with wooden traps, and eventuallty when a trap is lost either the worms devour them or they bio-degrade..They had to haul all their thaps out during worm season..Now, nobody to speak of fishes with wood anymore..They use vinyl coated wire, and once those traps are set in the water, they never come on the beach again..ever!..When they rot out the cut them loose and discard them at sea..Think about how many millions of discarded derelict lobster traps there are litteing the ocean floor

The reason why there is so much violence between lobster fisherman, is because, unlike dragging for fish, fish move constantly..When lobstering is good, the lobsters are always in the same old places, and the senior lobstermen know where these areas are from experience and fish those grounds heavy..Newcomers will catch a few lobsters on the boundaries of these areas, but when they find the balls to fish in the middle of the pack, and see whats really there, human nature takes over, and then the next thing you know the new guys are setting on top of the old timers, and the shit begins to fly..It is no different than the pecking order in the jungle..Hard work trying to make a living, coupled with jealousy and greed, is a cocktail for disaster..Next thing you know somebody snaps, and someone gets shot..Lobstermen are so territorial, that in their minds the litterally belive that they own the grounds that they fish on, and with such tight govt regulations, it just makes the water come to a boil alot quicker

Regulations are another story all in themselves..The problem began as overfishing, and the govt has over regulated all of us, atleast half of us are out of business, yet with extremely strict regulations there is still a biomass crisis..The biggest problem is pollution, but the govt will never admiitt that..Its cheaper to point the finger at the fisherman, than it is to fix the real problem

Botom line..when you put half the fleet out of business, and severely restrict the number of days, and the amount of fish one can land, and they biomass is not recovering..the problem isnt over fishing anymore..There is something else critically wrong

bairdi
09-05-2009, 12:46 PM
I was a full time commercial fiaherman untill 2006 when Parkinsons Disease forced me to sell my 47' fishing twawler..(dragger)..I fished for 34 years, and I know all about this shit..There are men who fish with fixed gear, ie lobster traps, and men like myself who fish with mobile gear, ie trawl nets

Trawler fishermen have been in conflict over fishing grounds for over a century, and many times it came to fist fights on the dock over territory, because of mobile gear fishermen dragging up lobster traps and cutting their lines and discarding their traps in the rough ground where we cant drag..They would retaliate by dumping anything from rolls of barbed wire, to old refrigerators in the drag ground to fuck up our nets

There however is a huge difference between the demeanor of fixed and mobile gear fishermen..Mobile gear fishermen, arent anywhere near as territorial as lobstermen..We have our spats occasionally, but we get along with each other fairly well, some of us like brothers

Not the case with lobstermen..They are very territorial..Before the National Marine Fisheries Service..NMFS..imposed trap limits according to historical participation in the fishery, I know a guy who spent $7000 on traps to saturate on piece of ground so that no one else could fish there..They dont get along with each other for the most part, and connstantly are chopping up each others gear..When I was fishing, and wandered into any trap area, I would catch a half dozen or so lobster traps in my net, fathoms of lobster pot warp..(rope)..plastic bait bags, bait barrels..They dump all their shit overboard..They are fucking pigs..Years ago they used to fish with wooden traps, and eventuallty when a trap is lost either the worms devour them or they bio-degrade..They had to haul all their thaps out during worm season..Now, nobody to speak of fishes with wood anymore..They use vinyl coated wire, and once those traps are set in the water, they never come on the beach again..ever!..When they rot out the cut them loose and discard them at sea..Think about how many millions of discarded derelict lobster traps there are litteing the ocean floor

The reason why there is so much violence between lobster fisherman, is because, unlike dragging for fish, fish move constantly..When lobstering is good, the lobsters are always in the same old places, and the senior lobstermen know where these areas are from experience and fish those grounds heavy..Newcomers will catch a few lobsters on the boundaries of these areas, but when they find the balls to fish in the middle of the pack, and see whats really there, human nature takes over, and then the next thing you know the new guys are setting on top of the old timers, and the shit begins to fly..It is no different than the pecking order in the jungle..Hard work trying to make a living, coupled with jealousy and greed, is a cocktail for disaster..Next thing you know somebody snaps, and someone gets shot..Lobstermen are so territorial, that in their minds the litterally belive that they own the grounds that they fish on, and with such tight govt regulations, it just makes the water come to a boil alot quicker

Regulations are another story all in themselves..The problem began as overfishing, and the govt has over regulated all of us, atleast half of us are out of business, yet with extremely strict regulations there is still a biomass crisis..The biggest problem is pollution, but the govt will never admiitt that..Its cheaper to point the finger at the fisherman, than it is to fix the real problem

Botom line..when you put half the fleet out of business, and severely restrict the number of days, and the amount of fish one can land, and they biomass is not recovering..the problem isnt over fishing anymore..There is something else critically wrong
Thanks for a very informative response.

slowhand
09-05-2009, 12:55 PM
Thanks for a very informative response.

You're Welcome..Its not very often I come across many posts on this topic..Ive posted on the Discovery Channel website, and on the F/V Northwestern site, but most of what you get over there is a bunch of teenyboppers who'd love to get in Sig Hansen's pants :lmao2:

Binky
09-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Well, both those posts were great. Thanks to both of you for posting them. Opened my eyes even more as to how people react in certain situations.

As to how it applies to politics and this forum, just a quick note, I'd have to say, first off, that they are similiar in that there is a lot of hate and bad behaviours going on. And these are even among those that have known each other for years and years. It also cries out "this is the way we do it and this is the way it's going to be done." Sounds a lot like DC. to me.

Another similiarity is that it is all downright ugly. The backstabbing. The verbal abuse. The pettiness. So on and so forth. Plain ugly. The fact that people are people and will do and say things that aren't necessarily the proper things to say and do is also a common denominator.

But I suppose I'd have to reread it again and do more thinking on it to come up with yet more comments to say about it.

Be that as it may, I enjoyed both statements. Very informative. Thanks again.

slowhand
09-06-2009, 07:46 AM
Well, both those posts were great. Thanks to both of you for posting them. Opened my eyes even more as to how people react in certain situations.

As to how it applies to politics and this forum, just a quick note, I'd have to say, first off, that they are similiar in that there is a lot of hate and bad behaviours going on. And these are even among those that have known each other for years and years. It also cries out "this is the way we do it and this is the way it's going to be done." Sounds a lot like DC. to me.

Another similiarity is that it is all downright ugly. The backstabbing. The verbal abuse. The pettiness. So on and so forth. Plain ugly. The fact that people are people and will do and say things that aren't necessarily the proper things to say and do is also a common denominator.

But I suppose I'd have to reread it again and do more thinking on it to come up with yet more comments to say about it.

Be that as it may, I enjoyed both statements. Very informative. Thanks again.

It does get downright ugly at times..It can bring the best, and the worst out of people..Fishing is very competitive, and my attitude towards competition has always been passive rather than aggressive..I figure its not worth the stress to get bent out of shape over a few fish..The way I figure it, guys like me who were in the bussiness for the long haul, have to have confidence in your abilitiy to do your job, and that means having to accept the fact that you cant have the good tmes all to yourself all the time..Somebody is always going to be there to split the pie with you, and thats just the way it is..If I havent got confidence in myself, then I dont belong out there..Fishing to some folks is a job, and for others it is a way of life..There are guys who are there only when times are good, and when the pickin's are silm, they go and do something else..For those guys its a job..Then there are those who are able to put bread on the table when times are tough..Those are the guys who do it because they love what they do, and dont do it because they think they're gonna get rich..For me, its was more about the freedom, and the adventure than it ever was for the money..Everyday was a new adventure for better or for worse, and thats where the confidence in your own abilities come in

Then there are those like that man who shot a guy he had known for decades..Some cant see beyond the greed, the jealousy, and the selfishness, and some of those guys are in it for the long haul

Getting back to fixed gear fishermen, vs mobile gear fisherman..the fixed gear fisherman; ie, lobstermen, have their investment sitting out in the ocean, vulnerable to thieves, mobile gear fishermen, and other lobstermen..Guys that fish traps close to the beach are vulnerable to storms..Most of these guys have small boats and have the advantage of fishing in the rocks in shallow water, but, get a nasty storm with gale force winds, and the surf tumbles the traps up on to the beach after it grinds them up in the rock piles..Traps cost about $45 a piece depending on size..then theres rope, bouys etc..Out in the ocean the traps are set in trawls, meaning maybe 50 traps give or take fastened to one line 200' or so feet apart..Theres a small fortune invested just in rope..So when these guys get someone fucking with them, either competion from other lobstermen either setting on top of them, cutting their lines up, or mobile fishermen dragging their gear up, tempers tend to flare, and that how people get shot..Basically, there is always communication between fixed and mobile gear fishermen via cell phone or ship to shore..Lobstermen will give GPS lat/lon coordinance as to where their traps are, so that the draggermen can navigate hopefully without dragging up someones gear..You cant always see the trap bouys on the radar at night, so you need GPS coordinance to stay clear of the lobster gear..Some of the fshing trawlers and scallopers have huge boats with alot of horsepower, and they sometimes get into the lobster gear and drag it for miles without even know they have it

So when your investment is sitting out in the ocean, on the ocean floor, you can litterally lose your shirt..It costs a olt of money to make a five day trip, between groceries, bait, fuel, etc, and when you get to the grounds and spend 2 days either looking for dragged up traps, or tieing cut up lines back together, it can get expensive real fast..A guy can get pissed off real quick when he spends a tom of money to make a trip, and it ends up costing him money to be there

Moile gear fishermen on the other hand bring their nets out there, drag them around, catch their fish, and bring the nets home with them when the trip is over

There are so many variables, conditions, and challenges in fishing, that makes it one of the toughest, and most dangerous jobs in the world..There are times when the ocean refuses to give up her bounty, and others when you make real big scores..Today, the biggest obstacle to overcome is the govt..What the govt really wants to do is get all the independent guys out of the business, and let the big corporations own the fisheries..Strict fisheries regulations are more about corporate ownership of the fisheries, than it ever was about conservation..Quite a few years ago, anyone could get a licence to fish..Federal, and State licensing for most speicies has been closed for decades, and when men dropped out of the fishing business forr whatever reason, those licenses that werent renewed were gone forever..Then the govt made licenses and permits transferable..they began to designate individual transferable quotas to fishermen based on historical participation in the respected fisheries..These licenses, permits and quotas, because of their transferability, not only became personal property of the holder, but also became like real estate, and were sold rented or leased to other fishermen, and when many independent fishermen got regulated out of business, the big corporations bought up the licenses, permits, quotas, and in some cases the vessels as well..The Atlantic mahogany clam and surf clam fisherey now belongs to four corporations 95 % exclusively..There are only a handful of independent guys left participating in the fishery..And where there was chaotic controversy in the fishery for years before this transition, today you very seldom read an article about overfishing in that fishery, nor do you ever see an article written about the destructive nature of clam dredges on the ocean floor..No piece of fishing apparatus is more destructive than a clam dredge..But this is the nature of "The New World Order"..Its about money control and power..Scallop vessels are mandated to have a VMS..(Vessel Monotoring System)...abourd their vessels to participate in the Atlantic scallop fishery..What the VMS is, is like a home confinment ankle bracelet..The NMFS, and the Coast Guard can moniter the positions of these vessels at sea, to make sure they are not fishing in closed areas, or in Canadian waters, and used the Patriot act as a back up to justify this monitoring at sea..In my opinion, this is not only an unconstitutional invasion of privacy, but is tantamout to being punished for a crime that hasnt been committed..Its like unjustly being on probation, or parole..Convicted criminals and child molesters do not have to report their daily activites to the police..Niether do other honest law abiding business owners have to call the poliice at the end of their business day and report their activities..For example, a barber doesnt have to call the police everyday and tell them how any haircuts he gave on any given day..Had I not became disabled when I did a few years ago, I would have been regulated out of busines two years ago, beween tougher regulations, lowred quotas, and $5.00 pre gallon diesel fuel..So I guess its no surprise that somebody ends up getting shot..The freedom we once knew is all but gone..Sure there has to be regulations, and laws, but what is taking place today is ridiculous..Violations of fisheries regulations these days are processed administratively rather than criminally..The difference is that the fines are huge, in the tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus fofeture of catch, and are imposible to beat on appeal

https://www.fish-news.com/cfn/editorial/editorial_4_06/FVTR_fines.html

Binky
09-06-2009, 11:11 AM
Once again, thanks for the great informative post. Altho' I've always known it was a competitive occupation, I really never gave it much thought as to how regulated it is. Stands to reason tho', since many other things are as well, why should commercial fishing or loberstering be any different. And while I knew it had to cost a tidy sum, I had no idea as to how extensive those costs, and/or fees could be.

What most of us take for granted, others are using it as their livelihood and any major change could mean they are out of a big catch for the day, or out of a job....

Interesting stuff.

slowhand
09-06-2009, 12:03 PM
Once again, thanks for the great informative post. Altho' I've always known it was a competitive occupation, I really never gave it much thought as to how regulated it is. Stands to reason tho', since many other things are as well, why should commercial fishing or loberstering be any different. And while I knew it had to cost a tidy sum, I had no idea as to how extensive those costs, and/or fees could be.

What most of us take for granted, others are using it as their livelihood and any major change could mean they are out of a big catch for the day, or out of a job....

Interesting stuff.

Yeah, it is interesting stuff, and one of the best things that ever happened to the industry was when "Deadliest Catch" brought the industry into our living rooms, so that people could see the reality of fishing

Binky
09-06-2009, 12:14 PM
Yeah, it is interesting stuff, and one of the best things that ever happened to the industry was when "Deadliest Catch" brought the industry into our living rooms, so that people could see the reality of fishing


Yep, I've actually sat and watched that show a few times. I was amazed at just how dangerous that sort of work could be. I'd had no idea at the time, other than the fact they were out on the ocean where the weather could become very hazardous rather quickly...

I found it an interesting program and very enlightening.