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The_Limit
08-19-2009, 11:21 AM
Its about time someone from the Democratic party showed they had balls.

Ironic how the man to do it is a homosexual Jew.

Funn, how a lot of Obama's opponents were scared that Obama was a "Chicago style thug."

However, he's been very weak during this health care debate.

Anyways, watch this clip.

Good for Barney Frank.

I'm glad someone isn't putting up with right-wing nuttery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorange.com%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Ft%3D163785&feature=player_embedded

Citizen
08-19-2009, 11:23 AM
Wow, there are a lot of morons on here.

The_Limit
08-19-2009, 11:25 AM
Wow, there are a lot of morons on here.

Nope. Not at all.

I cannot stand when clowns try to compare any politician with the Nazi's.

Good for Barney.

Its absolutely disgusting.

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 11:28 AM
I love good ol' Barney. We should have known it was coming though, leave it to the "faggot" to put the right in their place.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 12:07 PM
Its about time someone from the Democratic party showed they had balls.

Ironic how the man to do it is a homosexual Jew.

Funn, how a lot of Obama's opponents were scared that Obama was a "Chicago style thug."

However, he's been very weak during this health care debate.

Anyways, watch this clip.

Good for Barney Frank.

I'm glad someone isn't putting up with right-wing nuttery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorange.com%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Ft%3D163785&feature=player_embedded

Boy, he avoided the question all together just like all the other criminals in Washington. All he had were insults and contempt like many of the liberals here.;)

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 12:16 PM
Boy, he avoided the question all together just like all the other criminals in Washington. All he had were insults and contempt like many of the liberals here.;)

The question was "How could you support this plan?" Which was answered throughout the duration of the town hall meeting.

He was there to tell them how he could support the plan

She is there calling it a "Nazi plan" and you say it was Barney with the insults and contempt.

Mason66
08-19-2009, 12:20 PM
Its about time someone from the Democratic party showed they had balls.

Ironic how the man to do it is a homosexual Jew.

Funn, how a lot of Obama's opponents were scared that Obama was a "Chicago style thug."

However, he's been very weak during this health care debate.

Anyways, watch this clip.

Good for Barney Frank.

I'm glad someone isn't putting up with right-wing nuttery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorange.com%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Ft%3D163785&feature=player_embedded

What could it possible matter if he is Jewish or not?

Are you saying Jewish people have no balls?

doctordog
08-19-2009, 12:24 PM
The question was "How could you support this plan?" Which was answered throughout the duration of the town hall meeting.

He was there to tell them how he could support the plan

She is there calling it a "Nazi plan" and you say it was Barney with the insults and contempt.

Her sign was not addressed to Barney and she didn't call him anything, he was the one with the charged insults, that is not suprising considering the state he represents and the criminal acting senators they have.

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 12:33 PM
Her sign was not addressed to Barney and she didn't call him anything, he was the one with the charged insults, that is not suprising considering the state he represents and the criminal acting senators they have.

Such claptrap.

Mr. wayers I'm surprised at you. That sounds like something Chief Freeclinic might say behind a quart of Mescal.

Hog Trash
08-19-2009, 12:37 PM
Its about time someone from the Democratic party showed they had balls.

Ironic how the man to do it is a homosexual Jew.

Funn, how a lot of Obama's opponents were scared that Obama was a "Chicago style thug."

However, he's been very weak during this health care debate.

Anyways, watch this clip.

Good for Barney Frank.

I'm glad someone isn't putting up with right-wing nuttery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorange.com%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Ft%3D163785&feature=player_embeddedI wish I would have been at that town hall meeting.

I would have asked Congressman Barney Frank if he spits or swallows?

:D

serum114
08-19-2009, 12:39 PM
Her sign was not addressed to Barney and she didn't call him anything, he was the one with the charged insults, that is not suprising considering the state he represents and the criminal acting senators they have.

Asking a Jew how he can support a Nazi plan isn't insulting? a Nazi healthcare plan for Jews would have had nothing to do with actual health but more of a death panel I would imagine. The whole Nazi comparison about a healthcare system doesn't really make any sense.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 12:44 PM
Such claptrap.

Mr. wayers I'm surprised at you. That sounds like something Chief Freeclinic might say behind a quart of Mescal.

Let's see we have Barney presiding over the House Financial Services Committee when the housing and securities bubble burst. And then you have that other scandal that caused Larry Craig and Governor Spitzer to resign but not Frank:thumbsup:

Besides Frank there is Ted Kennedy whom aledgedly was in the care with that young girl when she drown after he walked away. Piss on both of these guys and anything they have to say. Their state might be the only state in the nation as crooked as Illinois.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 12:45 PM
Asking a Jew how he can support a Nazi plan isn't insulting? a Nazi healthcare plan for Jews would have had nothing to do with actual health but more of a death panel I would imagine. The whole Nazi comparison about a healthcare system doesn't really make any sense.

It does when the government is risking the insurance of 10-20 million people who work and pay their insurance to provide insurance to those that do nothing for theirs.

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 12:51 PM
Let's see we have Barney presiding over the House Financial Services Committee when the housing and securities bubble burst. And then you have that other scandal that caused Larry Craig and Governor Spitzer to resign but not Frank:thumbsup:

Besides Frank there is Ted Kennedy whom aledgedly was in the care with that young girl when she drown after he walked away. Piss on both of these guys and anything they have to say. Their state might be the only state in the nation as crooked as Illinois.

Oh geez, not this tired BS again.

You're a total waste of time, Mr. wayers. Doing robot schtick in lieu of addressing the topic at hand is boring as hell.

Go upgrade to the latest version of Dittohead2.0 and maybe toss something new up on your desktop. You're a freakin' bot, fer Chrisakes.


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Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 12:52 PM
Let's see we have Barney presiding over the House Financial Services Committee when the housing and securities bubble burst. And then you have that other scandal that caused Larry Craig and Governor Spitzer to resign but not Frank:thumbsup:

What exactly would have forced Frank to resign?

serum114
08-19-2009, 12:54 PM
It does when the government is risking the insurance of 10-20 million people who work and pay their insurance to provide insurance to those that do nothing for theirs.
So what the Nazi's did was take away health care from 10-20 million people that paid their insurance premiums and gave health insurance to people that didn't pay?

MintJulep
08-19-2009, 01:23 PM
Asking a Jew how he can support a Nazi plan isn't insulting? a Nazi healthcare plan for Jews would have had nothing to do with actual health but more of a death panel I would imagine. The whole Nazi comparison about a healthcare system doesn't really make any sense.
It makes sense when you look at the big picture. There is NO way to pay for this other than rationing, and that would ultimately lead to denying care to the elderly and disabled which is a eugenics program, of sorts. Hitler first began with 'mercy killings' of disabled children as he deemed them less valuable. You need to read Dr. Ezekial Emanuel's paper he wrote for the Lancet. It is quite an eye opener.

MintJulep
08-19-2009, 01:24 PM
So what the Nazi's did was take away health care from 10-20 million people that paid their insurance premiums and gave health insurance to people that didn't pay?
The Nazis decided who was worthy of life and who was not. That the is crux of the comparison.

kres24GT
08-19-2009, 01:33 PM
I don't agree with Frank on the issue at ll, but the at was awesome, he ruined that idiot, who I guarantee would have no problem with the same legislation if Bush and Co proposed it.

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 01:39 PM
It makes sense when you look at the big picture. There is NO way to pay for this other than rationing, and that would ultimately lead to denying care to the elderly and disabled which is a eugenics program, of sorts. Hitler first began with 'mercy killings' of disabled children as he deemed them less valuable. You need to read Dr. Ezekial Emanuel's paper he wrote for the Lancet. It is quite an eye opener.

Right on cue, there's 'lady' with the boiler plate Big Insurance BS, in yet another obvious attempt to keep that job shafting consumers, and pay off that Wal*Mart card someday. Pathetic.

Firstly, Big Insurance is RATIONING right now. Ever heard of the term 'pre-existing condition'?? Ever hear of policy 'caps'?? Ever hear of GIANT DEDUCTIBLES??....those are all forms of 'rationing' YOU are implementing right now.

Secondly, you obviously haven't even read the Republican co-sponsored (Isakson) provision to PAY FOR A CONSULTATION IF THE PATIENT REQUESTS ONE FROM THEIR DOCTOR. Nothing is mandatory, no one is deciding if gramdma deserves to live. You're a freakin lying ass piece of crap and you know it, 'lady'.

Try getting a real job and quit brainwashing people so you can have a damn paycheck, ya whore.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 01:42 PM
What exactly would have forced Frank to resign?

Sex with a prostitute he paid $80 for, cheap bastard.:lmao2:

doctordog
08-19-2009, 01:43 PM
Oh geez, not this tired BS again.

You're a total waste of time, Mr. wayers. Doing robot schtick in lieu of addressing the topic at hand is boring as hell.

Go upgrade to the latest version of Dittohead2.0 and maybe toss something new up on your desktop. You're a freakin' bot, fer Chrisakes.


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translatation:Thai Kimchi has no agrument:thumbsup:

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 01:45 PM
translatation:Thai Kimchi has no agrument:thumbsup:

proper traslation: wayers has nothing to say.

additional translation: wayers rips off his boss by posting nonsense while drawing hourly paychecks all day long.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 01:45 PM
proper traslation: wayers has nothing to say.

additional translation: wayers rips off his boss by posting nonsense while drawing hourly paychecks all day long.

lunch break dickhead

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 01:46 PM
Nice 8 hour 'lunch break' there, slick.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 01:48 PM
Nice 8 hour 'lunch break' there, slick.

I haven't been on for 8 hours dick, and I don't work by the hour monkey man.:thumbsup:

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 01:52 PM
I haven't been on for 8 hours dick, and I don't work by the hour monkey man.:thumbsup:

I suspected you're a telemarketer. What's your Time Share quota looking like? Any minimum sales needed to draw base pay, or just straight commish? I've been harrassed by you freaks since I can remember.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 01:56 PM
I suspected you're a telemarketer. What's your Time Share quota looking like? Any minimum sales needed to draw base pay, or just straight commish? I've been harrassed by you freaks since I can remember.

I own a business and some rentals if you must know. I like that conspiracy theory you have going on there.:thumbsup:

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 02:07 PM
A 'business', eh? We should probably let it go at that.

Slightly off topic, I just ran across a pic of 'lady's future (could be similar to your current business model) if Obama can manage to find his balls and jam a real 'public option' into all this.


http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2009/03/prostitute.jpg

doctordog
08-19-2009, 02:08 PM
A 'business', eh? We should probably let it go at that.

Slightly off topic, I just ran across a pic of 'lady's future (could be similar to your current business model) if Obama can manage to find his balls and jam a real 'public option' into all this.


http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2009/03/prostitute.jpg

Damn she is the wrong flavor for Barney:lmao2:

Thai Kimchi
08-19-2009, 02:10 PM
If she had some Huggies, Senator Vitter'd be all over that, eh?

serum114
08-19-2009, 02:26 PM
Right on cue, there's 'lady' with the boiler plate Big Insurance BS, in yet another obvious attempt to keep that job shafting consumers, and pay off that Wal*Mart card someday. Pathetic.

Firstly, Big Insurance is RATIONING right now. Ever heard of the term 'pre-existing condition'?? Ever hear of policy 'caps'?? Ever hear of GIANT DEDUCTIBLES??....those are all forms of 'rationing' YOU are implementing right now.

Secondly, you obviously haven't even read the Republican co-sponsored (Isakson) provision to PAY FOR A CONSULTATION IF THE PATIENT REQUESTS ONE FROM THEIR DOCTOR. Nothing is mandatory, no one is deciding if gramdma deserves to live. You're a freakin lying ass piece of crap and you know it, 'lady'.

Try getting a real job and quit brainwashing people so you can have a damn paycheck, ya whore.

The insurance companies seem to fit the nazi stereo type much closer. After all it's what we have and not what we are afraid we might get.

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 02:52 PM
It makes sense when you look at the big picture. There is NO way to pay for this other than rationing, and that would ultimately lead to denying care to the elderly and disabled which is a eugenics program, of sorts. Hitler first began with 'mercy killings' of disabled children as he deemed them less valuable. You need to read Dr. Ezekial Emanuel's paper he wrote for the Lancet. It is quite an eye opener.

Do you think the American people or the government would allow it get to that point? Do you forget the beauty of our Democracy? Hitler was a dictator, there were no opportunities to legitimately vote him out of office.

In the United States, if you do not like the current political agenda, vote it out of office. That is what happened in 2008, and feel free to try it in 2012.. and then your "death panels" and "Nazi politics" will be over with. But good luck trying to get rid of something that doesn't exist in the first place.

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 03:00 PM
Sex with a prostitute he paid $80 for, cheap bastard.:lmao2:

No.. solicitation of a prostitute is only a misdemeanor. But comparing him to politicians who committed adultery is a far reach. <<That was #1

Now for #2: Barney Frank does not stand on a moral agenda. So your comparison only makes the right look like hypocrites.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 03:48 PM
No.. solicitation of a prostitute is only a misdemeanor. But comparing him to politicians who committed adultery is a far reach. <<That was #1

Now for #2: Barney Frank does not stand on a moral agenda. So your comparison only makes the right look like hypocrites.

That is all he was charged for even though he was actually running a service out of his house which is a felony. More liberal cover-up.

http://newsbusters.org/node/8119

Congressman Barney Frank’s scandalous tolerance of a gay prostitution business operating out of his house, uncovered by the Washington Times in 1989, drew from ABC nowhere near the dramatic amount of attention ABC gave Mark Foley. On the August 25, 1989 World News Tonight, Sam Donaldson noted it just once in passing, a mere 67 words:

"Massachusetts Representative Barney Frank, an acknowledged homosexual, today confirmed that his Washington apartment had been used as a callboy headquarters by a male prostitute for a year and a half until late 1987. Responding to a story in today's Washington Times, Frank said he had hired the prostitute out of his own funds as a personal aide and fired him when he found out what was going on."


There's no Brian Ross making dramatic accusations of "X-rated" behavior. To his credit, as World News Tonight stayed off the story, Donaldson went into more detail on the August 31 PrimeTime Live, but notice how Donaldson wants some measure of fairness and accountability (even a little noise about Democratic leaders going easy), and Diane Sawyer wants to make excuses:

Barney Frank: "I thought I was going to be a liberal who got involved directly with an individual who needed help, that I had an individual who was going to get help and he took me."Bullshit"

Donaldson: "Congressman Frank says he was taken. Diane, what do you think? Do you think this is Frank's private business or should the House of Representatives properly get into it?"

Sawyer: "Well, the House is going to investigate. He called for it. Obviously, if he condoned it, if he said to them - and I find it very hard to believe – ‘Go ahead and run your ring out of my house. Be sure and turn out the lights and empty the ashtrays when you're done.’ Obviously they're going to reprimand him and the voters are going to make the final decision. If he didn't know, it is a different issue."

Donaldson: "Well, that's true. And homosexuality is not really the issue there. You put your finger on it. Was his apartment being used as a house of prostitution? I think some may find it very hard to believe that for a year and a half he didn't know this, he didn't have any signs of this."

Sawyer: "But the fact of the matter is if they can't prove it, somebody in Washington has got to stop and say -- 'cause I think the rest of the country has said it a long time -- 'How long are we going to continue to have this persistent, possibly prurient, but certainly punitive interest in people's private lives? When is it going to stop?'"

Donaldson: "Well, I think people's private lives, if they're public officials and they're running for public office, are things that are up for grabs from the standpoint of the voters having a right to say, ‘Look, the guy wants to do this, it's fine, but I'm going to vote against him, so I want to know about it.’ You know, the thing that bothered me at first was that the Speaker of the House and some of the other top Democrats in the House seemed not to get excited about Congressman Frank's problem, not even to the point of investigating. And I think that's very dangerous for the House to take that attitude and for the Democratic Party to take that attitude."

Sawyer: "I think of the last eight sex scandals, six have been Democrats, two have been Republicans, but nobody wants to get into that game of statistics. Nobody's going to win."

Donaldson: "I think everybody's human, but it doesn't matter the party. Everyone should punished equally."


On September 18, 1989, after weeks of studiously ignoring the issue, World News Tonight ran a tough story by Jim Wooten claiming "Barney Frank’s political future has suddenly become precarious." The Boston Globe called on him to resign, as did liberal columnist Mark Shields. Democratic strategist Bob Beckel guessed he wouldn’t last much longer. But the only sources in the Wooten story were worried liberals. Wooten concluded: "Representative Frank is generally pretty eager to be on camera, but today he declined all interviews and issued instead a written statement. It said, ‘I will not resign’. That's fast becoming a minority view among his friends and colleagues in Congress."

But within a few weeks, on October 27, 1989, ABC was amazingly using Frank as an ethical scold against former Reagan HUD secretary Sam Pierce in the HUD scandal:

Sheilah Kast: "[Pierce] said he would keep doing that until what he called an accusatory atmosphere changed. The subcommittee was not impressed."

Frank: "The Fifth Amendment does not say that the atmosphere is too tense and therefore I will not testify."


On July 20, 1990, the House ethics committee absolved Frank of knowing about the prostitution ring, but recommended a reprimand for Frank for fixing Gobie’s 33 parking tickets and wrote a "misleading memo" to secure Gobie’s probation. Reporter Sheilah Kast concluded: "One antigay Republican will try to have Frank expelled. That won't pass, but the full House is likely to vote next week to reprimand Frank, making it difficult for Republicans to use Frank's ethics as a national campaign issue. Sheilah Kast, ABC News, on Capitol Hill."

Six days later, when the House voted to reprimand Frank, Kast once again insisted there was no political hay for Republicans in the Frank scandal: "The House voted two to one against the tougher penalties, most Democrats siding with Frank, most Republicans against him. With Democrats rallying around him, the reprimand is likely to have little impact on Frank's effectiveness here and almost no impact on his chances for reelection. Sheilah Kast, ABC News, on Capitol Hill." (This was true, in the end: he won 66 percent of the vote.)

On the February 20, 1992 Prime Time Live, Sawyer promoted Frank's new book, Speaking Frankly: "Congressman Barney Frank of Massachusetts. A man called one of the truly gifted legislators of our time. By some accounts, able to influence up to 70 percent of Democrats' votes on his issues, fair housing, defense cuts." She called him "A public figure fierce about private life, a scrappy intellectual who has made a career out of saying exactly what he thinks." The first sentence of Sawyer's segment: "Meet the man who does the most scandalous thing you can do in Washington. He tells the truth." (So much for that "misleading memo" he wrote to secure Gobie's probation.)

Sawyer brought up the Gobie story with a heavy dose of empathy: "Frank has said it all happened because he felt trapped in the closet." She wondered: "Was that the roughest time in politics for you?" When Frank said it showed clumsiness and stupidity, Sawyer interjected: "Loneliness?" Frank replied: "Yeah."

On December 31, 1992, ABC showed its love for Barney Frank by putting on Frank and

Cookie
08-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Right on cue, there's 'lady' with the boiler plate Big Insurance BS, in yet another obvious attempt to keep that job shafting consumers, and pay off that Wal*Mart card someday. Pathetic.

Firstly, Big Insurance is RATIONING right now. Ever heard of the term 'pre-existing condition'?? Ever hear of policy 'caps'?? Ever hear of GIANT DEDUCTIBLES??....those are all forms of 'rationing' YOU are implementing right now.

Secondly, you obviously haven't even read the Republican co-sponsored (Isakson) provision to PAY FOR A CONSULTATION IF THE PATIENT REQUESTS ONE FROM THEIR DOCTOR. Nothing is mandatory, no one is deciding if gramdma deserves to live. You're a freakin lying ass piece of crap and you know it, 'lady'.

Try getting a real job and quit brainwashing people so you can have a damn paycheck, ya whore.

Your insults against LadyLiberty are uncalled for. :mad:

Learn to debate the issues instead of lobbing

the ad hominem attacks if you want to be taken seriously.




Do you have the same hatred and contempt for those who make their living

working for banks? That is a rhetorical question.
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doctordog
08-19-2009, 04:14 PM
Your insults against LadyLiberty are uncalled for. :mad:

Learn to debate the issues instead of lobbing

the ad hominem attacks if you want to be taken seriously.




Do you have the same hatred and contempt for those who make their living

working for banks? That is a rhetorical question.

Probably not his fault, he was probable raised that way.:confused:

Cookie
08-19-2009, 04:20 PM
No.. solicitation of a prostitute is only a misdemeanor. But comparing him to politicians who committed adultery is a far reach. <<That was #1

Now for #2: Barney Frank does not stand on a moral agenda. So your comparison only makes the right look like hypocrites.

Frank having the morals of an alley cat doesn't make it right.

Just because he doesn't stand on a moral agenda doesn't mean he shouldn't, or that people who do, shouldn't call him out on it.
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Cookie
08-19-2009, 04:21 PM
Probably not his fault, he was probable raised that way.:confused:

If he's seven years old, I'd give him a pass.

As an adult, he ought to know better.
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doctordog
08-19-2009, 04:25 PM
If he's seven years old, I'd give him a pass.

As an adult, he ought to know better.

there is another here that has exhibited a dislike for ladies using such words, I wonder if it is a lack of parenting or what?

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 04:34 PM
That is all he was charged for even though he was actually running a service out of his house which is a felony. More liberal cover-up.


All conservative speculation.

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Frank having the morals of an alley cat doesn't make it right.

Just because he doesn't stand on a moral agenda doesn't mean he shouldn't, or that people who do, shouldn't call him out on it.

And the people who did care did call him out on it.. I have no problem with that.. but as of now, the only thing he did wrong was paid for a prostitute.

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 04:36 PM
there is another here that has exhibited a dislike for ladies using such words, I wonder if it is a lack of parenting or what?

Can you not let that go? That was a month ago.. if you are still bothered by it, then its your problem, not mine.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 04:47 PM
Can you not let that go? That was a month ago.. if you are still bothered by it, then its your problem, not mine.

I am not bothered, but you must be, as I didn't even mention your name. SO the post wasn't even directed at you and you still have to comment about it.:thumbsup:

doctordog
08-19-2009, 04:49 PM
All conservative speculation.

no speculation, the ring was being run out of his apartment and he jsut denied knowing about it. The left made fun of McCain for not knowing how many houses he had and here we Barney chairing a large committee with a lot of responsibility and he can't manage one apartment.:lmao2:

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 04:57 PM
no speculation, the ring was being run out of his apartment and he jsut denied knowing about it. The left made fun of McCain for not knowing how many houses he had and here we Barney chairing a large committee with a lot of responsibility and he can't manage one apartment.:lmao2:

Oh.. kinda like how Palin can't manage what's going on in her own house?

Just wondering

doctordog
08-19-2009, 05:58 PM
Oh.. kinda like how Palin can't manage what's going on in her own house?

Just wondering

Tell us that when you know who your son or daughter is fucking.:thumbsup:

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 06:11 PM
Tell us that when you know who your son or daughter is fucking.:thumbsup:

Roger.. Will do.

BTW: Frank fired the guy the second he figured out he was using his house to host clients.

He acted responsibly from the get-go.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 06:12 PM
Roger.. Will do.

BTW: Frank fired the guy the second he figured out he was using his house to host clients.

He acted responsibly from the get-go.

Right, or maybe he just found a new driver that drove harder!:thumbsup:

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 06:16 PM
Right, or maybe he just found a new driver that drove harder!:thumbsup:

Again.. speculation. Thanks

The_Limit
08-19-2009, 07:36 PM
Hitler first began with 'mercy killings' of disabled children as he deemed them less valuable. You need to read Dr. Ezekial Emanuel's paper he wrote for the Lancet. It is quite an eye opener.

Complete and total lunacy to compare health reform to Nazi policies.

Not even close to reality.

Marika
08-19-2009, 11:13 PM
I wish I would have been at that town hall meeting.

I would have asked Congressman Barney Frank if he spits or swallows?

:D
Which has exactly what to do with health care? And why would it even enter your mind?

Life_Long_Dem!
08-20-2009, 01:59 PM
Its about time someone from the Democratic party showed they had balls.

Ironic how the man to do it is a homosexual Jew.

Funn, how a lot of Obama's opponents were scared that Obama was a "Chicago style thug."

However, he's been very weak during this health care debate.

Anyways, watch this clip.

Good for Barney Frank.

I'm glad someone isn't putting up with right-wing nuttery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorange.com%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Ft%3D163785&feature=player_embedded

I saw it yesterday on the news and laughed my ass off when he asked the lady what planet she lives on then said that having a conversation with somebody like her was like having a conversation with a dining room table...PRICELESS AND TRUE! Like he said ...thank God we live in a country that allows such vile and contemptable nonsense to be said. It seems the kooks are out in full force now running the asylum and it scares the hell out of me that we are letting such bullshit and propaganda as what the right and the insurers are putting out to run this country....sad...VERY sad!:(

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 02:06 PM
Yea, ol Barney Frank has sharp tongue. He is very good at deflecting the conversation from actual discussion to throwing out a quick jab to cut down a constituent. That's something I look for in a representative. The people of Taxachussets must be proud.

The_Limit
08-20-2009, 02:08 PM
Yea, ol Barney Frank has sharp tongue. He is very good at deflecting the conversation from actual discussion to throwing out a quick jab to cut down a constituent. That's something I look for in a representative. The people of Taxachussets must be proud.

I'm sorry but the woman is a lunatic accussing a black man and a homosexual Jew of supporting a Nazi plan.

Frank is right, there is no civil discussion possible with people who put forward such outlandish postulations.

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm sorry but the woman is a lunatic accussing a black man and a homosexual Jew of supporting a Nazi plan.

Frank is right, there is no civil discussion possible with people who put forward such outlandish postulations.
From what I read, that women was a political activist. She was most likely there to cause trouble. However, this woman did NOT accuse a black man and a homosexual Jew of supporting a Nazi plan. What she did was compare some of the policies of the Nazi's to the proposed policies of the left wing of the Democratic party. These Nazi policies where put in place long before Hitler began his genocide of the Jewish people, they were simply part of the National Socialist party platform. And if you care to research it, a number of the things that have been stated by this current administration are in line with a lot of the Nazi party positions.

Now was she trying to infer that Obama and the other liberals are Nazi's? I don't think so, but then again I believe people like her and others that use this tactic are using it as a fear tactic in an attempt to get people to turn against a proposal just because they compare it to the Nazi's programs. I think it is wrong no matter who does it.

But, Frank is also quick to change the subject or degrade someone with which he disagrees. This is not the first instance of this. Remember the forum he attended at a University (I don't remember which one) where the student asked him about his role in the sub prime mortgage issue where he got upset with the student and chastised him? This is just par for the course for Frank.

Life_Long_Dem!
08-20-2009, 02:45 PM
From what I read, that women was a political activist. She was most likely there to cause trouble. However, this woman did NOT accuse a black man and a homosexual Jew of supporting a Nazi plan. What she did was compare some of the policies of the Nazi's to the proposed policies of the left wing of the Democratic party. These Nazi policies where put in place long before Hitler began his genocide of the Jewish people, they were simply part of the National Socialist party platform. And if you care to research it, a number of the things that have been stated by this current administration are in line with a lot of the Nazi party positions.

Now was she trying to infer that Obama and the other liberals are Nazi's? I don't think so, but then again I believe people like her and others that use this tactic are using it as a fear tactic in an attempt to get people to turn against a proposal just because they compare it to the Nazi's programs. I think it is wrong no matter who does it.

But, Frank is also quick to change the subject or degrade someone with which he disagrees. This is not the first instance of this. Remember the forum he attended at a University (I don't remember which one) where the student asked him about his role in the sub prime mortgage issue where he got upset with the student and chastised him? This is just par for the course for Frank.
Maybe so on frank but I am DAMN GLAD he did it...the luns need to be smacked in the face with how idiotic they sound spewing such utter nonsense...the reform plan will mean death to granny...socialized medicine is coming...we are turning into a nazi nation....give me a friggin break, people that continually spew that shit need to come back and join planet earth pure and simple and if it means a congress person or two or 50 make an example out of them then so be it!

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 02:51 PM
Maybe so on frank but I am DAMN GLAD he did it...the luns need to be smacked in the face with how idiotic they sound spewing such utter nonsense...the reform plan will mean death to granny...socialized medicine is coming...we are turning into a nazi nation....give me a friggin break, people that continually spew that shit need to come back and join planet earth pure and simple and if it means a congress person or two or 50 make an example out of them then so be it!
I don't know about all your statements, but the socialized medicine statement can be laid at the feet of Obama. He as said on numerous occasions that he favors a single payer plan (i.e. socialized medicine, no other way to describe it). However, seeing as it has become so unpopular, he is trying to claim he never said such a thing. And astonishing thing is that the sheep BELIEVE him when me makes that claim. Amazing isn’t' it?

The_Limit
08-20-2009, 02:53 PM
From what I read, that women was a political activist. She was most likely there to cause trouble. However, this woman did NOT accuse a black man and a homosexual Jew of supporting a Nazi plan.

Yes she did.

Obama is black, and Frank is a Jewish homosexual.

The moment the word "Nazi" left her mouth, she lost all of her creditability.

Frank was right to compare dialouge with her to an inanimate object.

There is simply no use having a discussion with a person who invokes Nazism when it is completely inappropriate.

Life_Long_Dem!
08-20-2009, 02:56 PM
I don't know about all your statements, but the socialized medicine statement can be laid at the feet of Obama. He as said on numerous occasions that he favors a single payer plan (i.e. socialized medicine, no other way to describe it). However, seeing as it has become so unpopular, he is trying to claim he never said such a thing. And astonishing thing is that the sheep BELIEVE him when me makes that claim. Amazing isn’t' it?
we already have socialized medicine and it is called medicare and medicaid. What I do support is a medicare for all type of plan.

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 03:00 PM
Yes she did.

Obama is black, and Frank is a Jewish homosexual.

The moment the word "Nazi" left her mouth, she lost all of her creditability.

Frank was right to compare dialouge with her to an inanimate object.

There is simply no use having a discussion with a person who invokes Nazism when it is completely inappropriate.
So what you are saying that if you utter the word "Nazi" you loose all credibility?

Thanks for setting the record straight. I will no longer give you any credence based on you typing the word "Nazi" several times in this thread.

Is that what you mean? Because you OBVIOUSLY missed my point. She did NOT accuse Obama or Frank of being Nazi's. You really need to take some language comprehension classes. I explained it about in my post, but you still don't get it. It clearly explained the difference. If you choose to ignore it you are either ignorant or intolerant of a differing position.

And by the way, just for the record, I stated that I did NOT agree with the tactic that she used. (Before someone states that I support Nazi's or something stupid like that).

The_Limit
08-20-2009, 03:03 PM
So what you are saying that if you utter the word "Nazi" you loose all credibility?



Did you even read the quote that you posted of mine?

Did you miss it "...with a person who invokes Nazism when it is completely inappropriate."

The_Limit
08-20-2009, 03:10 PM
She did NOT accuse Obama or Frank of being Nazi's. .

Of course I never said she accused Obama or Frank of being Nazi's.

Never said it, not once.

My posts remain clear. I said she accused them of supporting a Nazi type plan, which she did.

Once again, you're engaging in a terrible DC Junkies tradition: Arguing a point which I never postulated.

The classic strawman fallacy.

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Did you even read the quote that you posted of mine?

Did you miss it "...with a person who invokes Nazism when it is completely inappropriate."
Yes I read it and I also WATCHED her ask the question. She did NOT call Frank and Obama Nazi's. She simply compared their proposals to Nazi policies.

Let's see how this works. In an effort to pay of their WWI reparations to France and England, the Germans under the governing party of the Nazi's simply began printing money. Under Obama, the Treasury began to Monetize (print money) $1 trillion dollars of US Debt. Sounds like a similar plan. Did I just call the Treasury Nazi's? I don't think so, but by your logic I did.

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 03:19 PM
I'm sorry but the woman is a lunatic accussing a black man and a homosexual Jew of supporting a Nazi Plan
She never accused Frank and Obama of supporting a Nazi plan. Once again, she simply compared their plans to those that the Nazi's implemented. If she had said “your health care proposal is a Nazi plan”, then that would have been accusing Frank and Obama of supporting a Nazi plan. However, it is not what she did.

The_Limit
08-20-2009, 03:20 PM
She did NOT call Frank and Obama Nazi's.



I never said she called them Nazi's.

You said that I said she called them Nazi's.

I actually never once stated it.

My posts are clear.

She accused them of supporting a Nazi type plan.

She did, and Frank responded appropriately.

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 03:21 PM
I never said she called them Nazi's.

You said that I said she called them Nazi's.

I actually never once stated it.

My posts are clear.
Clear as mud.

The_Limit
08-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Clear as mud.

A challenge for you.

Find a quote in this thread where I claim she said they were Nazi's.

You won't find it, because it does not exist.

GetAClue
08-20-2009, 03:28 PM
A challenge for you.

Find a quote in this thread where I claim she said they were Nazi's.

You won't find it, because it does not exist.
I already posted what you had stated and backed it up with logic. Now maybe I didn't interpet what you were saying in the manner in which you meant it. If that is that case, fine I can accept that. However, I did not claim that you said that she called them Nazi's. The only things I stated where directly from your posts.

This is getting old. Let's just agree that this women was out of line as I believe we both have said.