How does one cope?

[ROdger Right]

I gotta quit smoking weed for a bit and im wondering how others fair to it.

I know the easiest way is to start drinking and dont stop until you a pass a test.

But if you ever wanna go get brown t shirts with me and suit up until your eyes turn black thats cool too.


Oh on a different sounding note if i had to quit one thing in my life it definetley would be tabbaco with out a second thought. Fucking useless people trying me to quit shit that dont kill me as quickly as the black death. I use chewing tabacco and thats what I like to call it.

[Smurf-Herder]

Can't really help you there - I'm Jonesin'.

If you need to pass a test, it takes 30 days to get out of your system. That means also cutting back on everything else that would hold it in, like cigarettes. Drink lots of water and tea. The over-the-counter cleanser stuff shows up in tests.

I find if I'm outta weed, I chain-smoke cigarettes. Like two packs or more a day.

[Binky]

I gotta quit smoking weed for a bit and im wondering how others fair to it.

I know the easiest way is to start drinking and dont stop until you a pass a test.

But if you ever wanna go get brown t shirts with me and suit up until your eyes turn black thats cool too.


Oh on a different sounding note if i had to quit one thing in my life it definetley would be tabbaco with out a second thought. Fucking useless people trying me to quit shit that dont kill me as quickly as the black death. I use chewing tabacco and thats what I like to call it.


Sorry, but I call it chewing a cud. Nasty....How romantic for your woman....:(

[wayers57]

I gotta quit smoking weed for a bit and im wondering how others fair to it.

I know the easiest way is to start drinking and dont stop until you a pass a test.

But if you ever wanna go get brown t shirts with me and suit up until your eyes turn black thats cool too.


Oh on a different sounding note if i had to quit one thing in my life it definetley would be tabbaco with out a second thought. Fucking useless people trying me to quit shit that dont kill me as quickly as the black death. I use chewing tabacco and thats what I like to call it.

Roger I live in tobacco country. On the weed thing, I know someone that goes to the supplement store when we are 2 weeks out from being tested at work. He takes something that usually makes him pass in 9 days. If they take hair samples though, your fucked.

[Smurf-Herder]

Roger I live in tobacco country. On the weed thing, I know someone that goes to the supplement store when we are 2 weeks out from being tested at work. He takes something that usually makes him pass in 9 days. If they take hair samples though, your fucked.

I tried that crap from the health food store - nearly a month after quitting. I think I failed the stupid test because of over the counter sinus pills, of all things.

[wayers57]

I tried that crap from the health food store - nearly a month after quitting. I think I failed the stupid test because of over the counter sinus pills, of all things.

I wish I could remember the name, I am getting old an can't.

[Binky]

I tried that crap from the health food store - nearly a month after quitting. I think I failed the stupid test because of over the counter sinus pills, of all things.


Niacin should do the trick. I do believe it takes 3-4 weeks tho', before it is out of the system altogether.

[ROdger Right]

Well I got 9 days or so and I have niacin already. You know what that guy took wayers?

But if I dont get the name im just gonna drink a gallon of water a day and 2-4 niacin pills.

I usually just take niacin if im running low on weed i pop a few burn up, get my thc levels down so ill be that much higher haha

[Bill Cosby]

The test we use is a hair sample.......... YOu can detect months.........

They do urine to but the hair is the one that gets them...

Good luck on kicking those.. I use to smoke way back in the day & I quite many, many times but not till I got the nicorte gum was I able to pull it off.....

I was able to still go & party w/out having to have a cigarette........ After two weeks I quite the gum & never looked back....

[Marika]

Drinking dill pickle juice straight from the jar works well for tests also. Just don't kill yourself with the sodium and be sure to get plenty of water in you when the test is completed.

[Bill Cosby]

Will that work on a hair test????

[Marika]

Will that work on a hair test????
Not sure, just know I watched one of my relatives guzzle the pickle juice on the drive to take the test and she passed.

[ciaobox]

oh for pete's sake, just quit smoking it for 30 days.

if it's as psychologically and physically non-addictive as all the marijuana advocates tout, it should be a snap.

;)

[Bill Cosby]

Not sure, just know I watched one of my relatives guzzle the pickle juice on the drive to take the test and she passed.

From what I understand they do the hair because some proteins get into the hair & can be detected for long periods of time....

[CosmicRocker]

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4934

This is what you need to know in an easy to read, in depth format.

[ROdger Right]

Thanks cosimic rocker. little skeptical about taking high blood pressure medicine because it can kill you pretty quick so ill stick with niacin and water.

Also thinking of soaking a couple fingers in bleach before i go in for the test just as plan b

[petetree]

Take it from a head...CRANBERRY JUICE baby, lots and lots of cranberry juice...I think it is the acidic content, but if you chug a couple of quarts a day, for three days before you should be good (no guarantees...although it has worked for me multiple times...in fact I have never failed one!)

[gOd]

Scrape an Alka Seltzer Cold Plus tablet with your fingernail. After you pee in the cup, flick the scraped contents into the cup. The effervescence and all the other shit they put in those things will denature and mask the indicators. If asked about the high concentration of acetaminophen, tell them you were sick.

[Hog Trash]

I gotta quit smoking weed for a bit and im wondering how others fair to it.

I know the easiest way is to start drinking and dont stop until you a pass a test.

But if you ever wanna go get brown t shirts with me and suit up until your eyes turn black thats cool too.


Oh on a different sounding note if i had to quit one thing in my life it definetley would be tabbaco with out a second thought. Fucking useless people trying me to quit shit that dont kill me as quickly as the black death. I use chewing tabacco and thats what I like to call it.Disappear for a month untill the shit is outta your system and make up some wild story....Whata ya got ta lose??? :lmao2:

Take a short vacation to Mexico and hang out and party for however long it takes and then go to an American Embassy and tell them you just escaped after being kidnapped by a drug cartel.

Hey, how they gonna check...Nobody in Mexico's gonna tell shit...The cops are even corrupt...It's a fucking mess down there...Nobody knows nothing...Who know's, authorities might even confirm it.

The Embassy will probably even fly you back home free...They might even give you 15 seconds of fame on the news by flashing your story...More confirmation...You'll be a hero when you return to work.

[Binky]

oh for pete's sake, just quit smoking it for 30 days.

if it's as psychologically and physically non-addictive as all the marijuana advocates tout, it should be a snap.

;)



:lmao2: :lmao2: He's not gonna do that...He's a pot head. And very serious potheads won't give it up long enough to go thru that. :lmao2:

[Captain Obvious]

Fucking pothead liberals.

The hair test can go back months, even years I hear - and good for them. The idea is that nobody wants a fucking pot smoking hippie working for them.

[CosmicRocker]

Thanks cosimic rocker. little skeptical about taking high blood pressure medicine because it can kill you pretty quick so ill stick with niacin and water.

Also thinking of soaking a couple fingers in bleach before i go in for the test just as plan b
Forget it. did you read in depth the facts I showed you from NORML?

DON'T RELY ON EXCUSES: Although urine tests are far from infallible, it is difficult to challenge positive test results. "False positives," in which workers are wrongfully accused of marijuana use, are highly unlikely so long as labs exercise proper care (however, not all labs do this). The standard procedure is to first screen the samples with an immunoassay test (e.g., EMIT® or RIA®), then confirm positive results with the more accurate gas chromatograph mass spectrometer (GCMS). This virtually eliminates the chance of false positives in exchange for a relatively high rate of "false negatives," where drug use is not detected. The sensitivity of the test is determined by the concentration of metabolites it is set to detect: for the Dept. of Transportation, the standard cutoff is 50 nanograms/milliliter (ng/ml).

No substance is known to produce a false positive for marijuana. It used to be that ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin) interfered with the marijuana test, but this problem has been fixed. A variety of over-the-counter medicines can cause false positives for amphetamine and other illicit drugs on the EMIT test, but not on the GCMS.

"Passive smoking" of marijuana is not an acceptable excuse at the 50 ng/ml level, since only in extreme circumstances can a non-smoker absorb enough pot to test urine positive (e.g., being stuck in a closet full of heavy smokers for hours). However, passive exposure may result in positive tests at 25 ng/ml or lower.


WASH YOURSELF OUT: The general strategy for passing urine tests is to increase your fluid intake and urine flow so as to dilute the concentration of drugs in the sample below the threshold of detection. An hour or two before the test, you should fill your bladder with fluids - as much as you can drink. Water is fine - contrary to popular rumor, there is NO evidence that goldenseal, vinegar, niacin, or vitamin C help. However, high-dosage aspirin may reduce the sensitivity of the EMIT urine test for pot (only). Many people wash themselves out for several days in advance by drinking a lot and exercising, but there is no reason to think this is useful. In no case should you give your first urine of the morning, since drug metabolites tend to build up during your sleep.

While you're loading up on water before the test, you may also want to take a large dose (50-100 milligrams) of vitamin B-2, available in B-complex multivitamins. The purpose of this is to color your urine yellow, since otherwise you are likely to produce clear, watery urine, which makes some collectors suspicious (contrary to rumor, vitamin C won't help). In rare instances, some labs will reject a sample for being too watery; in this case, however, they will typically give you a second chance. Wait until your test results have been confirmed before indulging in compromising behavior.

You can boost your fluid output by taking diuretics, which stimulate urination. Weak diuretics include coffee, cranberry juice, certain health food products and over-the-counter pills for pre-menstrual water retention.

If you're taking the test on very short notice, you may wish to resort to more potent diuretics, which are widely prescribed to treat high blood pressure. Although strong diuretics, such as furosemide (Lasix®), are available only on prescription in the U.S., they can be had over-the-counter in Mexico and other foreign countries. Beware that they can be dangerous for certain persons, such as diabetics or pregnant women, and can cause problems if taken over extended periods. Diuretics can be detected in urine, but are rarely checked except for athletes. The following regime has been suggested by a former army drug testing officer (Robert Freeman, "How to 'Beat' a Drug Test," High Times, Aug. 1988): Take an 80-milligram dose of Lasix; take a hefty drink of water; piss two or three times, then take the test. If you're lucky and didn't smoke too much pot, a good washout may get you past a test on a couple days' notice. However, regular smokers should allow at least a week or two if at all possible.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

How important is passing this test for you?
If it's just the one then STOP SMOKING for 30 days.

If you're gonna be subject to more random testing, let me know, and I'll try to did deeper for you

[Captain Obvious]

Here's the best remedy - clean up your fucking act.

And get a fucking haircut.

[CosmicRocker]

Fucking pothead liberals.

The hair test can go back months, even years I hear - and good for them. The idea is that nobody wants a fucking pot smoking hippie working for them.
LOL.
here's a goody fer ya.

Friend of mine owns a health food store, mostly for athletes.
You know, mostly stocked with powered proteins, all that body build stuff.

But his BIG SALES are de-tox drug kits, he keeps up front in the glass counter.

Guess who he sells most of it too?
Not the potheads, but firefighters, cops, armed forces types.

Hate to burst your bubble but pot is mainstream now.

[Bill Cosby]

:lmao2: :lmao2: He's not gonna do that...He's a pot head. And very serious potheads won't give it up long enough to go thru that. :lmao2:

I just learned today that the company I work for is no longer drug testing. To save money. The testes are well over $200 per potential new higher...
I was surprised...

[Bill Cosby]

LOL.
here's a goody fer ya.

Friend of mine owns a health food store, mostly for athletes.
You know, mostly stocked with powered proteins, all that body build stuff.

But his BIG SALES are de-tox drug kits, he keeps up front in the glass counter.

Guess who he sells most of it too?
Not the potheads, but firefighters, cops, armed forces types.

Hate to burst your bubble but pot is mainstream now.

yep................ Hell there are conservatives on this board that smoke...

[Captain Obvious]

LOL.
here's a goody fer ya.

Friend of mine owns a health food store, mostly for athletes.
You know, mostly stocked with powered proteins, all that body build stuff.

But his BIG SALES are de-tox drug kits, he keeps up front in the glass counter.

Guess who he sells most of it too?
Not the potheads, but firefighters, cops, armed forces types.

Hate to burst your bubble but pot is mainstream now.

Sure, I realize it's everywhere.

Which is why that so many fucking mishaps involving people on the job like cops and firefighters involve immediate testing resulting in the detection of controlled substances.

Which is why nobody wants potheads doing important work, hence the drug testing.

Me? I don't give a fuck what people do in their own privacy. I also don't give a fuck when they bitch and moan about drug tests, can't get a fucking job, got caught, arrested. Do what the rest of us do, grow some fucking nads and stay clean.

[CosmicRocker]

Sure, I realize it's everywhere.

Which is why that so many fucking mishaps involving people on the job like cops and firefighters involve immediate testing resulting in the detection of controlled substances.

Which is why nobody wants potheads doing important work, hence the drug testing.

Me? I don't give a fuck what people do in their own privacy. I also don't give a fuck when they bitch and moan about drug tests, can't get a fucking job, got caught, arrested. Do what the rest of us do, grow some fucking nads and stay clean.
Pot has a very short psychoactive life.
One can get wasted, and within an hour or 2 be not under the influence.
The METABOLITES though are stored in body fat, unlike alcohol which is metabolized into simple sugars and excreted.

So someone in an important position ( say firefighter) can smoke on the weekends, or after work, and be completely straight for the next shift.

Alcohol abuse kills thousands of peeps every year.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to die, or overdose on weed.

So weed is actually SAFER than booze. But the draconian drug laws drive it underground, and fuel the drug cartels.

Does any of this seem to be a reasonable approach to you??.

[Captain Obvious]

Pot has a very short psychoactive life.
One can get wasted, and within an hour or 2 be not under the influence.
The METABOLITES though are stored in body fat, unlike alcohol which is metabolized into simple sugars and excreted.

So someone in an impotant position ( say firefighter) can smoke on the weekends, or after work, and be completely straight for the next shift.

Alcohol abuse kills thousands of peeps every year.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to die, or overdose on weed.

So weed is actually SAFER than booze. But the draconian drug laws drive it underground, and fuel the drug cartels.

Does any of this seem to be a reasonable approach to you??.

Go back and re-read - I really don't give a fuck.

I also don't spend time trying to figure ways to beat the system or worry that if I get into an accident - even though I'm not high they might test me and find post, or worry about getting arrested, randomly tested at work....

I just don't smoke pot. What a fucking concept.

[CosmicRocker]

Go back and re-read - I really don't give a fuck.

I also don't spend time trying to figure ways to beat the system or worry that if I get into an accident - even though I'm not high they might test me and find post, or worry about getting arrested, randomly tested at work....

I just don't smoke pot. What a fucking concept.

good for you, do you drink alcohol, or smoke cigarettes?
You do realize they are more dangerous to one's health.

Drug Free of ANY kind is the healthiest way to be.
Can't argue with you there.

If you don't care personally, what about the cost to society?
The millions of non-violent "criminals" locked up for non-violent drug use?

I'm not trying to make you care, I'm just hoping you can see the situation we have now is the worst of both worlds.
Large segments of society using a drug without medical quality control, ppl's lives messed up in the court system, all over a weed.

[Captain Obvious]

good for you, do you drink alcohol, or smoke cigarettes?
You do realize they are more dangerous to one's health.

Drug Free of ANY kind is the healthiest way to be.
Can't argue with you there.

If you don't care personally, what about the cost to society?
The millions of non-violent "criminals" locked up for non-violent drug use?

I'm not trying to make you care, I'm just hoping you can see the situation we have now is the worst of both worlds.
Large segments of society using a drug without medical quality control, ppl's lives messed up in the court system, all over a weed.

Move to Mexico.

[Trillian]

I gotta quit smoking weed for a bit and im wondering how others fair to it.


Its easy. Just quit. I smoked daily for years and one day I stopped. Willpower. Years later when I tried it again I couldnt stand the feeling it gave me.

[ROdger Right]

If i don't want to drink i smoke weed, because alchol tastes pretty gross especially when high. Weed also stops me from chewing becuse i dont like having one in when I have nosaliva to spare.

Yea once drunk it doesnt matter wheather i smoke or not. Only works one way.

Throw a needle in and enjoy the rest of the day always is tempting.

[CosmicRocker]

If i don't want to drink i smoke weed, because alchol tastes pretty gross especially when high. Weed also stops me from chewing becuse i dont like having one in when I have nosaliva to spare.

Yea once drunk it doesnt matter wheather i smoke or not. Only works one way.

Throw a needle in and enjoy the rest of the day always is tempting.

I can't handle alcohol either. even small amounts make me sweat and piss.
ut if you can't live without pot, you have a problem.

I enjoy it, smoke a bowl or 2 a day when I have it, when i don't i don't worry about it.

Stop thinking " I'm missing something" and substitute exercise, or some othr activity.

You might also consider going to NA.
I did, it's helpful to talk these things out.

Remember it's always gonna be there, take a break, go to NA.
you won't get preached at, you may find some insight about why weed is ruling your thoughts.

It can't hurt. try it please, without preconceptions.

You don't have to talk -just listen.
we're all human, and many have had to give up far worse.
I quit heroin, -surely you can do without a little weed for awhile?

But don't even look at it that way.
see what you can do to find a replacement for getting high.

You can always pick up again. It might be good to stop it for awhile.

[Bill Cosby]

Wow..... Awesome advice.......:D


Hopefully Rog listens to the a voice of experience & wisdom....:thumbsup:

[slowhand]

I gotta quit smoking weed for a bit and im wondering how others fair to it.

I know the easiest way is to start drinking and dont stop until you a pass a test.

But if you ever wanna go get brown t shirts with me and suit up until your eyes turn black thats cool too.


Oh on a different sounding note if i had to quit one thing in my life it definetley would be tabbaco with out a second thought. Fucking useless people trying me to quit shit that dont kill me as quickly as the black death. I use chewing tabacco and thats what I like to call it.

You should be able to just stop..Weed is not physically addictine, it is however a mental obsession..In other words in it psychocologically addictive

[John Galt]

So?????

It's been almost a month since you started this thread...what happened?

I'm lucky that piss tests don't affect me, but most of my friends have suffered from them.


Did you take the test?

[ROdger Right]

I thought it was going to be my first 1 on 1. the test didnt happen so I think its going to be the next one on one.

the place says they only do 1 random test and if I pass I should be in the clear.

[John Galt]

I thought it was going to be my first 1 on 1. the test didnt happen so I think its going to be the next one on one.

the place says they only do 1 random test and if I pass I should be in the clear.
Well, if that's the case, I'll tell you what I've discussed about these tests...


Random...that's an interesting word. Do they collect everyone's urine, and only test random samples? Does it mean that they pick people randomly?

For you, it's an initial test, so random doesn't matter. However, what I've heard, is that when they come through and collect a group of people's urine, they take 1/2 of each sample, and put it in a large container.

They test the container. If it comes up negative, they've saved hundreds of dollars. If not, then they test individual samples.


People say that the overpriced herb teas work. I know people that had good results with them, but....if you drank the same amount of water just before your test, it would work as well. Notice...the teas say that you should drink it no more than 3 hours before the test.


If you know that you're getting tested the next day, you have an advantage. Just drink water all night before your test, and drink another gallon in the morning...if you can stand it. You'll be pissing non stop, which is what you want. The thc will slough off of the lining of your bladder, and the urine you give for a test will be clean.

DON'T FORGET TO TAKE A VITAMIN B TABLET IN THE MORNING!!! Otherwise, your urine will look like tapwater, and they'll retest you.


Good luck w/the test.

[foxbaron]

Next time you have a test drink lots and lots of beer and eat nothing but pickled eggs for three days before the test.

When you go in for the test you'll be farting and stinking so bad they will probably ask you to leave immediately and you'll get a pass on the piss test, and no one will want to get close enough to you to cut your hair.

Just stay away from open flames and funny ass friends with BIC Lighters.

[CosmicRocker]

Well, if that's the case, I'll tell you what I've discussed about these tests...


Random...that's an interesting word. Do they collect everyone's urine, and only test random samples? Does it mean that they pick people randomly?

For you, it's an initial test, so random doesn't matter. However, what I've heard, is that when they come through and collect a group of people's urine, they take 1/2 of each sample, and put it in a large container.

They test the container. If it comes up negative, they've saved hundreds of dollars. If not, then they test individual samples.


People say that the overpriced herb teas work. I know people that had good results with them, but....if you drank the same amount of water just before your test, it would work as well. Notice...the teas say that you should drink it no more than 3 hours before the test.


If you know that you're getting tested the next day, you have an advantage. Just drink water all night before your test, and drink another gallon in the morning...if you can stand it. You'll be pissing non stop, which is what you want. The thc will slough off of the lining of your bladder, and the urine you give for a test will be clean.

DON'T FORGET TO TAKE A VITAMIN B TABLET IN THE MORNING!!! Otherwise, your urine will look like tapwater, and they'll retest you.


Good luck w/the test.They check your creatinine levels:

Dilution is the most common method of trying to fool a drug test.
Drinking large quantities of liquids will dilute your urine, thereby diluting the level of drug metabolites below the sensitivity of the test to register a false negative (pass).

But the testing labs are wise to this trick and perform a validity test. Dilution also dilutes the creatinine levels in your urine as well, one of the things checked for by the validity test before checking it for drug metabolites. They also check the specific gravity, pH, and to see if nitrates, aldehydes, or other substances have been added.

If your creatinine levels in your urine are too low, the test will show "diluted", which is interpreted as a fail. Taking a creatine supplement will metabolize into creatinine, boosting the level in your urine. There is no upper limit to creatinine on the validity test, only a lower limit

[CosmicRocker]

their is a test called EMIT,which is cheap, and checks for metabolites of aTHC.

any positives are doubled checked ( depending on who the entity is doing the test) by spectrometer.

Unless you freaking know microbiology, chances are you will be caught with diluted, or altered tests.

Give it up. get your first done clean, maybe they;ll leave you alone afterwards.


If you try, and come up adulterated, that's FAILING the test, and if they give you another chance,
they will be testing you at a frequency less than 30 days.

30 days clean that's ALL you gotta do.

It's not a death sentance, or 30 days in jail.

[nobull]

Fucking pothead liberals.

The hair test can go back months, even years I hear - and good for them. The idea is that nobody wants a fucking pot smoking hippie working for them.

Roger is a liberal? Surprise surprise. (I seriously doubt it.)

[Binky]

Next time you have a test drink lots and lots of beer and eat nothing but pickled eggs for three days before the test.

When you go in for the test you'll be farting and stinking so bad they will probably ask you to leave immediately and you'll get a pass on the piss test, and no one will want to get close enough to you to cut your hair.

Just stay away from open flames and funny ass friends with BIC Lighters.


:lmao2: :lmao2: Now you're being an ass.....:lmao2:

[Binky]

Fucking pothead liberals.

The hair test can go back months, even years I hear - and good for them. The idea is that nobody wants a fucking pot smoking hippie working for them.


Awwww, come on Cappy...I smoke when my back is hurting from an old injury....Now I ask, take a gander at my pic. You know, the one to the left of the post.....do I look like a "fucking pot smoking hippie lib?" :lmao2: :lmao2:

HINT: I can go for days and days and days, without ever touching the stuff....How do you like those apples? :lmao2:

[ROdger Right]

Here's the best remedy - clean up your fucking act.

And get a fucking haircut.
I will not get a haircut and i will not get a real job.:p


I handle my investments, annual goal is 300% from previous year.

[Binky]

yep................ Hell there are conservatives on this board that smoke...



:lmao2: :lmao2: :hi: :lmao2:

[Binky]

If i don't want to drink i smoke weed, because alchol tastes pretty gross especially when high. Weed also stops me from chewing becuse i dont like having one in when I have nosaliva to spare.

Yea once drunk it doesnt matter wheather i smoke or not. Only works one way.

Throw a needle in and enjoy the rest of the day always is tempting.


:talktothehand: Pick a suggestion, then work with it. It's pot, for crying out loud...it's not as tho' it were heroin or crack. Good grief. Alcohol is a heck of a lot worse in more ways than one. Do whatever is req'd of you to pass the test and get on with your life.....:banghead:

[Binky]

I will not get a haircut and i will not get a real job.:p


I handle my investments, annual goal is 300% from previous year.

Well, we know you're investing in weed...but what are some of your other investments? Weed killer? :lmao2: :lmao2:

[ROdger Right]

:talktothehand: Pick a suggestion, then work with it. It's pot, for crying out loud...it's not as tho' it were heroin or crack. Good grief. Alcohol is a heck of a lot worse in more ways than one. Do whatever is req'd of you to pass the test and get on with your life.....:banghead:

Alright mrs mamm im not ready to head to Canada and there isn't getting on with something that goes into next year to finish, but luckily there is only the one test. And eys if I get caught again for alchol that is where im moving, then its to illegally cross into America after I turn 21. Im thinking continental United states if that happens though

[gOd]

I've got an idea...legalize it! Tell 'em Mr. Tosh!

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[ROdger Right]

Well, we know you're investing in weed...but what are some of your other investments? Weed killer? :lmao2: :lmao2:

:lmao2:

I just throw it around and im pretty sure its fool proof:lmao2:

[Binky]

:lmao2:

I just throw it around and im pretty sure its fool proof:lmao2:


:lmao2: If you're into drinking as well, then, ahh, let me see now, oh yeah, duh,......stop guzzeling so much of that stuff. You could end up doing yourself in or someone else. You'd be much better off with the weed..... if you get stopped with weed, (and no booze in, on or around you), you'll prob'ly just get tossed in the clink for a short while. (and fined) But with booze, oh boy, darlin', get ready to stay awhile.

Anyway, your test isn't until after the first of next year, right? Gee........that's only a few short months away deary....not a lifetime. So what if you stopped going up in smoke for a few months. Big deal. Actually, your brain and other body parts would prob'ly freak out and get some feeling back into them......:lmao2:

[CosmicRocker]

You are NOT physically, or even psychologicall addicted to pot.
alcohol has a physcally addictive potential

Obsessing over it( having it, or being out) becomesxself fufilling.

I just hope you might find a way to take a break from it.

If you let yourself become wrapped up in drugs, you are risking potential
other drugs to use.

"Take it or leave it" if you still have that attitude, you prolly won't get addicted.

If it's "I really need it" no telling what you're gonna wind up really needing.

Nip those obsessions in the Bud as it were.

Addiction is literally a monkey you have to carrry and attend at all times.'The monkey on your back, will direct you, and you'll loose free will.

chemical enslavement is always just around the corner, unless you can get the attitude, "i'm busy today, too busy to dope up'

[Bill Cosby]

I've got an idea...legalize it! Tell 'em Mr. Tosh!

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Yep..............

[ROdger Right]

Alright, so im drunk. How about you get your own bottle. One of the best lines chris Farley ever spoke, atleast its one of my favorites. Its from Almost Heros.

And secondly fuck treatment, I havent been sober for more than a week since ive been in it.

Damn I only got like 2 weeks to wait for my free money to come in. And the person who buys Alaskans out of the pfd for about 20k a piece will reduce the population by half because of alchol poisoning and drug over dose.

I have yet to find a person who has resisted doing drugs while they are with me. I should be a fucking ciggerate executive man dealio, thats how good I am. Would fuck up all your liberal pussy ideas of UHC because I'd put so much cancer in ya you'd go bankrupt or die, your choice of course lloolol

[slowhand]

Alright, so im drunk. How about you get your own bottle. One of the best lines chris Farley ever spoke, atleast its one of my favorites. Its from Almost Heros.

And secondly fuck treatment, I havent been sober for more than a week since ive been in it.

Damn I only got like 2 weeks to wait for my free money to come in. And the person who buys Alaskans out of the pfd for about 20k a piece will reduce the population by half because of alchol poisoning and drug over dose.

I have yet to find a person who has resisted doing drugs while they are with me. I should be a fucking ciggerate executive man dealio, thats how good I am. Would fuck up all your liberal pussy ideas of UHC because I'd put so much cancer in ya you'd go bankrupt or die, your choice of course lloolol

I wonder what Chris would say if he had a chance to do it all over again?

Favorite lines Chris ever spoke huh?..That train of thought gets people dead..Just ask Chris..Ohhhhh, that right..You cant..He's dead

My bad

[Binky]

Alright, so im drunk. How about you get your own bottle. One of the best lines chris Farley ever spoke, atleast its one of my favorites. Its from Almost Heros.

And secondly fuck treatment, I havent been sober for more than a week since ive been in it.

Damn I only got like 2 weeks to wait for my free money to come in. And the person who buys Alaskans out of the pfd for about 20k a piece will reduce the population by half because of alchol poisoning and drug over dose.

I have yet to find a person who has resisted doing drugs while they are with me. I should be a fucking ciggerate executive man dealio, thats how good I am. Would fuck up all your liberal pussy ideas of UHC because I'd put so much cancer in ya you'd go bankrupt or die, your choice of course lloolol


Obviously you have bonded with others that are weak like you, since they can't resist the drugs while with you. Better mend your ways or you could wake up dead or kill someone else. Is that what you want?

[MarkMiller]

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[CosmicRocker]

Alright, so im drunk. How about you get your own bottle. One of the best lines chris Farley ever spoke, atleast its one of my favorites. Its from Almost Heros.

And secondly fuck treatment, I havent been sober for more than a week since ive been in it.

Damn I only got like 2 weeks to wait for my free money to come in. And the person who buys Alaskans out of the pfd for about 20k a piece will reduce the population by half because of alchol poisoning and drug over dose.

I have yet to find a person who has resisted doing drugs while they are with me. I should be a fucking ciggerate executive man dealio, thats how good I am. Would fuck up all your liberal pussy ideas of UHC because I'd put so much cancer in ya you'd go bankrupt or die, your choice of course lloololWhn I was in rehab ( the first of many times) an older non using addict ( once an addict -alkways an addict, but you can be sober) asked me

" You KNOW the path you're one, you KNOW it's a hard, unforgiving path, and the chances of you dieing, or winding up in jail are pretty good - do you accept that reality?"

I said "yes" that's what I wanted.
And everything he said was true, it's a hard world with the junkie blues.

Somehow ( maybe there really is a God?) I survived, but I had some damn miserable years.

I just want you to look in the mirror- literally go look at yourself, and ask yourself if this is the life you choose? You DO have a choice!

You may never find a stable relationship, you will spend way too much money on drugs, and there is a good chance you'll die.

If that's your choice -so be it.
But look at yourself and affirm that's the path you want, cause that's the path you will take. Misery will be a constant companion, when you're not high.

and when you're high, you still will see others moving on experiencing life, while you experience nothing but intoxication.

[Binky]

RR, you may even end up as my son did, and taking a semi automatic machine gun and placing it under his chin, pulling the trigger. Is that what you want? Get some help. I would hate to think of anything of that sort happening to you. :( Please...........seek out some help.....

[Marika]

RR, you may even end up as my son did, and taking a semi automatic machine gun and placing it under his chin, pulling the trigger. Is that what you want? Get some help. I would hate to think of anything of that sort happening to you. :( Please...........seek out some help.....
I'm so sorry about your son. Was this very long ago?

[Binky]

I'm so sorry about your son. Was this very long ago?


Just over three years. We buried him on June 10, 2006. He had stopped drinking but the dts were more than his mind could bear. There's a saying that God does not give you more than he thinks you can handle. In my sons case, that wasn't true. He just couldn't handle the mental angish any longer. In our case, it is true as we've called on the toughness that we've learned to be over the years. We've been handling it. My motto is: do whatever it takes to pull you thru. We have and still are.

[Marika]

Just over three years. We buried him on June 10, 2006. He had stopped drinking but the dts were more than his mind could bear. There's a saying that God does not give you more than he thinks you can handle. In my sons case, that wasn't true. He just couldn't handle the mental angish any longer. In our case, it is true as we've called on the toughness that we've learned to be over the years. We've been handling it. My motto is: do whatever it takes to pull you thru. We have and still are.
Your strength may bring peace to others in the same situation.

I had a friend on the boards who spoke of killing himself twice a year, and gave the month he intended to do it in. Another close friend of his and I tried our best to intervene, build up his self esteem, and beg him to stay. We left him phone messages, (he lived in another state and had no family nearby)He chose not to respond anymore, got drunk, took pills and just died. He was an alcoholic and things got to be too much for him. I still have his email addy for some unkown reason.:(

[ROdger Right]

RR, you may even end up as my son did, and taking a semi automatic machine gun and placing it under his chin, pulling the trigger. Is that what you want? Get some help. I would hate to think of anything of that sort happening to you. :( Please...........seek out some help.....

Sorry for your loss and thank you for your support.

My bones do not break, my mind does not bend and my will shall not waiver in the face of the end. Wheather it is my gun or my enemies gun it will be my time.

My soul will meet another worthy shell after this one is no longer functional. For no energy in the universe is wasted but it does not mean I will waste this life which I take to mean I will not live what most people call a normal life.

[Marika]

I don't think my friend knew how many lives he impacted when he was alive and after he chose to leave. We all absolutely adored him. The dead know nothing, they feel no pain. But we still do.
He was kind and gentle and very intelligent. What a loss.

[ROdger Right]

Also I have already noted that I have an addicts personality to an extent so I make sure to keep away from hard drugs.

Of course smashing up pain killers in blunts on occasion isnt good but its not liek i ever pay for them so no worries.

Also with extasy, when you smoke weed each time youve done it, I atleast fooled myself because you couldnt tell the differance between the two because weed just clams you down. And now I wouldnt do it even though that dealer is lives a block away.

Had to quit smoking as a precaution for my upcoming one on one session so im just biding my time until that because im just gonna get blazed for I have no idea what to spend my money on.

[MarkMiller]

yep................ Hell there are conservatives on this board that smoke...
I know Beck-Limbaugh-Hannity loving full on conservative Republicans that Love George Bush and Sarah Palin....and smoke pot....legaly of course.:D

[MarkMiller]

Alright, so im drunk. How about you get your own bottle. One of the best lines chris Farley ever spoke, atleast its one of my favorites. Its from Almost Heros.

And secondly fuck treatment, I havent been sober for more than a week since ive been in it.

Damn I only got like 2 weeks to wait for my free money to come in. And the person who buys Alaskans out of the pfd for about 20k a piece will reduce the population by half because of alchol poisoning and drug over dose.

I have yet to find a person who has resisted doing drugs while they are with me. I should be a fucking ciggerate executive man dealio, thats how good I am. Would fuck up all your liberal pussy ideas of UHC because I'd put so much cancer in ya you'd go bankrupt or die, your choice of course lloolol
Don't be alone. Talk to someone in real life. Just talk.

[Marika]

Also I have already noted that I have an addicts personality to an extent so I make sure to keep away from hard drugs.

Of course smashing up pain killers in blunts on occasion isnt good but its not liek i ever pay for them so no worries.

Also with extasy, when you smoke weed each time youve done it, I atleast fooled myself because you couldnt tell the differance between the two because weed just clams you down. And now I wouldnt do it even though that dealer is lives a block away.

Had to quit smoking as a precaution for my upcoming one on one session so im just biding my time until that because im just gonna get blazed for I have no idea what to spend my money on.

I come from a highly addictive family. The trick is to transfer it to something more positive. Mark is right, talk to someone. You are worth more than you think.

[slowhand]

Also I have already noted that I have an addicts personality to an extent so I make sure to keep away from hard drugs.

Of course smashing up pain killers in blunts on occasion isnt good but its not liek i ever pay for them so no worries.

Also with extasy, when you smoke weed each time youve done it, I atleast fooled myself because you couldnt tell the differance between the two because weed just clams you down. And now I wouldnt do it even though that dealer is lives a block away.

Had to quit smoking as a precaution for my upcoming one on one session so im just biding my time until that because im just gonna get blazed for I have no idea what to spend my money on.

I keep reading this stuff, and the more I read the more I am convinced that you might have a potential problem..This thing is a monster if it gets rolling, and never tell yourself that you are too young to have a problem..I am conviced that alcoholics/addicts/addiction is something we are born with..I believe that it is genetic, that this is a medical issue, and not a moral issue, even though bad shit happens

Ive watched people closely in the 20 years Ive been clean, and there are people who can have 2 or 3 drinks, and stop..consistantly..You seldom to never see them drunk..And there is a reason for that..What happens to me physically, and mentally when I put alcohol in my body, does not happen to those folks who can have a couple and stop..After I have the first one, I cant stop, and I dont know that I cant stop untill I try too stop, and find that it is hard..My mind will rationalize and justify anything to make it alright in my mind to have a drink when I know I shouldnt, or any other substance for that matter

I also suggest you talk with someone..You do not want to go down this path

[Binky]

Also I have already noted that I have an addicts personality to an extent so I make sure to keep away from hard drugs.

Of course smashing up pain killers in blunts on occasion isnt good but its not liek i ever pay for them so no worries.

Also with extasy, when you smoke weed each time youve done it, I atleast fooled myself because you couldnt tell the differance between the two because weed just clams you down. And now I wouldnt do it even though that dealer is lives a block away.

Had to quit smoking as a precaution for my upcoming one on one session so im just biding my time until that because im just gonna get blazed for I have no idea what to spend my money on.


Knowing what my son went thru, and reading your posts, is breaking my heart. I couldn't help him, for one cannot help someone who chooses not to be helped. You are in the same boat. I cannot help you other than to try and dissuade you from drinking altogether. Clearly, it is your decision. You are worth far more than any bottle of booze. At this point in time, you are still alive. My son wouldn't listen to me. Will you? Are you going to seek the help you need? Or are you going to continue as you have, waiting for the axe to fall? And will your family and friends get a call or a visit from the authorities saying you have taken your life, or that of someone elses? Do you know what it feels like to find out a very close loved one has just given up and killed himself, not caring what family and friends felt? Well, I can tell you....when I heard the news, my legs gave out and I collasped into a chair and screamed. My heart broke in two and it still hasn't healed. There is not a day goes by that I don't think of my son and that moment. The anquish of his death will haunt my family and I until the day we are buried. Is that what you want to put others thru?

Once again, I ask you to go out and seek some help. Please.....

Please, if for no other reason than to spare those you love, don't do anything that they will have to suffer for the rest of their lives. It may only take an instant to die or to harm someone else, but it takes a lifetime of healing to live thru it.....

[MarkMiller]

Knowing what my son went thru, and reading your posts, is breaking my heart. I couldn't help him, for one cannot help someone who chooses not to be helped. You are in the same boat. I cannot help you other than to try and dissuade you from drinking altogether. Clearly, it is your decision. You are worth far more than any bottle of booze. At this point in time, you are still alive. My son wouldn't listen to me. Will you? Are you going to seek the help you need? Or are you going to continue as you have, waiting for the axe to fall? And will your family and friends get a call or a visit from the authorities saying you have taken your life, or that of someone elses? Do you know what it feels like to find out a very close loved one has just given up and killed himself, not caring what family and friends felt? Well, I can tell you....when I heard the news, my legs gave out and I collasped into a chair and screamed. My heart broke in two and it still hasn't healed. There is not a day goes by that I don't think of my son and that moment. The anquish of his death will haunt my family and I until the day we are buried. Is that what you want to put others thru?

Once again, I ask you to go out and seek some help. Please.....

Please, if for no other reason than to spare those you love, don't do anything that they will have to suffer for the rest of their lives. It only takes an in
As heart breaking as that is, we have to face a few facts. The addicted are not thinking about that and it is not their intention to cause pain. It is pain they feel that blinds them from this logic.

As for your grief Binky.....for your sake, and the sake of your family, find forgiveness in your heart for his selfish final act. It only accomplishes one thing and that is to taint the memory of your son in your eyes and that breaks my heart more than anything. To hear the anguish of a mother over the thoughtless path a son has taken is gut wrenching, but he was more than his addiction, he was your son and we know you love him. It is OK to let go. Don't move on, just move forward.

[Binky]

I don't think my friend knew how many lives he impacted when he was alive and after he chose to leave. We all absolutely adored him. The dead know nothing, they feel no pain. But we still do.
He was kind and gentle and very intelligent. What a loss.


One life touches another and another in some way, while we are here on earth. Whose to say how many are affected? The mental anquish is sometimes unbearable for those that are ill. The size of the hole left behind, tells you you've experienced a huge loss.

[Binky]

As heart breaking as that is, we have to face a few facts. The addicted are not thinking about that and it is not their intention to cause pain. It is pain they feel that blinds them from this logic.

As for your grief Binky.....for your sake, and the sake of your family, find forgiveness in your heart for his selfish final act. It only accomplishes one thing and that is to taint the memory of your son in your eyes and that breaks my heart more than anything. To hear the anguish of a mother over the thoughtless path a son has taken is gut wrenching, but he was more than his addiction, he was your son and we know you love him. It is OK to let go. Don't move on, just move forward.


Well, I have tried to forgive myself for not being able to help him. However, that is much easier said than done. I'm still working on it. For some reason, God has blessed me with the gift of humor, therefore, I use it continually to get me thru my days. I am not afraid to make a fool of myself, therefore, I make others laugh, which brightens their days. And it makes me feel great to bring smiles and chuckles to others. Without my humor to get me thru this ordeal, I don't know where I'd be today. Quite possibly right next to my son.......

[MarkMiller]

Well, I have tried to forgive myself for not being able to help him. However, that is much easier said than done. I'm still working on it. For some reason, God has blessed me with the gift of humor, therefore, I use it continually to get me thru my days. I am not afraid to make a fool of myself, therefore, I make others laugh, which brightens their days. And it makes me feel great to bring smiles and chuckles to others. Without my humor to get me thru this ordeal, I don't know where I'd be today. Quite possibly right next to my son.......
Laughter is the greatest medicine.

[Binky]

Laughter is the greatest medicine.


It's been working so far.

[Marika]

Well, I have tried to forgive myself for not being able to help him. However, that is much easier said than done. I'm still working on it. For some reason, God has blessed me with the gift of humor, therefore, I use it continually to get me thru my days. I am not afraid to make a fool of myself, therefore, I make others laugh, which brightens their days. And it makes me feel great to bring smiles and chuckles to others. Without my humor to get me thru this ordeal, I don't know where I'd be today. Quite possibly right next to my son.......
Although you will never get over your son's untimely death, you will get past it and it sounds as if each year is better for you in that respect, than the one before. As more time passes do you find it is becoming easier to remember him with a smile instead of a tear?

[Binky]

Although you will never get over your son's untimely death, you will get past it and it sounds as if each year is better for you in that respect, than the one before. As more time passes do you find it is becoming easier to remember him with a smile instead of a tear?


It's getting there. It's becoming easier to see him as a child and doing something silly, than to think of the negative. Thanks for your concern.

[Marika]

It's getting there. It's becoming easier to see him as a child and doing something silly, than to think of the negative. Thanks for your concern.
You're welcome and I hope by talking about it I didn't cause you any distress.

[Binky]

You're welcome and I hope by talking about it I didn't cause you any distress.


I can handle it. I'm a tough cookie. ;) Thanks.....

[ROdger Right]

Very true how people cope with their preoblems can lead to how their lives will unfold. Laughter being the most healthy way is the best way but most likely less used than we would like. For there is always food, drugs, alchol that will push us through a problem atleast seldomly if it does not become habbit binding. Anger and such negative emotions drive us down further but the ability to handle stress is where it usually lies. Your personal ability to block a punch or block a neghative train of thought can make all the differance in the world. To understand that most stress is self created in your mind and thats where it adds up and sneaks up behind you. For when you add natural stress that happens to stress you make up[ it can make a powerful foe and learning the healthy coping mechanizms can keep us all healthy and for the most part happy.

[Marika]

Very true how people cope with their preoblems can lead to how their lives will unfold. Laughter being the most healthy way is the best way but most likely less used than we would like. For there is always food, drugs, alchol that will push us through a problem atleast seldomly if it does not become habbit binding. Anger and such negative emotions drive us down further but the ability to handle stress is where it usually lies. Your personal ability to block a punch or block a neghative train of thought can make all the differance in the world. To understand that most stress is self created in your mind and thats where it adds up and sneaks up behind you. For when you add natural stress that happens to stress you make up[ it can make a powerful foe and learning the healthy coping mechanizms can keep us all healthy and for the most part happy.
Very well said.

[ROdger Right]

Dropping 3 250mg niacin pills was precisley what i needed today. You go from burning up to shivering but I gotta admit the sensation just feels so nice.

[Bill Cosby]

Are you quiting smoking???

[ROdger Right]

No, just a period of of time when my system needs to be clean in case i have to take a ua.

[ROdger Right]

You ever have a dream where you wake up to someone handing you a blunt?
It made my morning until I figured out it was just a dream because I wouldn't have smoked that blunt just yet.

Dang so close. Smoke session postponed till 4 pm on september the 30th.

[Bill Cosby]

When I quite I had lots of dreams of smoking...... For five years... Not every night but enough to make me know I did not wanna go through it again.........

YOU should do the same.........

You wanna be free..............

THen stay free..........

You return to it you will be back begging to be free again........

Grab you balls & say fuck it!!!! no more...

...................

Suffer a lil now & rejoice ever after...............

Good luck my friend................

[Captain Obvious]

When I quite I had lots of dreams of smoking...... For five years... Not every night but enough to make me know I did not wanna go through it again.........

YOU should do the same.........

You wanna be free..............

THen stay free..........

You return to it you will be back begging to be free again........

Grab you balls & say fuck it!!!! no more...

...................

Suffer a lil now & rejoice ever after...............

Good luck my friend................

:thumbsup:

[ROdger Right]

The thing is I passed my ua, have been high for the past couple days and will not quit my ways for I will live how I wish and thats all there is to it.

[Marika]

The thing is I passed my ua, have been high for the past couple days and will not quit my ways for I will live how I wish and thats all there is to it.
Of course you should live any way you wish, but when it becomes depressing or no longer makes you happy, or it endangers other people's lives, you have a problem.

[ROdger Right]

Of course you should live any way you wish, but when it becomes depressing or no longer makes you happy, or it endangers other people's lives, you have a problem.

Don't fix what ain't broke. If drugs are what gets me through this transitional period before I meet up with my pic I can handle that. Many people focus in the negative but for me I neever could understand such a thing. I think something truely horrific would have to happen to make me feel worse than normal. Its all how things all precieved and limiting shit that nothing can be done about.

[CosmicRocker]

The thing is I passed my ua, have been high for the past couple days and will not quit my ways for I will live how I wish and thats all there is to it.
as long as you consciouslly, and of sound mind make that decision, it is indeed your right.

It is also the path that will take you trhu courts, jails, Overdoses, loss of loved ones, and possible death.

I'm saying the EXACT words an old junkie told me back in '76

I consciously accepted that path. You seem to be saying the same.

It's a different path, it has a lot of booby traps, and dead ended blind alleys.

All Blessings to you -you will need them.

[ROdger Right]

as long as you consciouslly, and of sound mind make that decision, it is indeed your right.

It is also the path that will take you trhu courts, jails, Overdoses, loss of loved ones, and possible death.

I'm saying the EXACT words an old junkie told me back in '76

I consciously accepted that path. You seem to be saying the same.

It's a different path, it has a lot of booby traps, and dead ended blind alleys.

All Blessings to you -you will need them.

No worries, my path has not reavealed where it will go but surely ill find a better way to live than the gutter. For I do not run from nature, I iwll continue to live with people not companies,organizations or governments.

[ROdger Right]

So hows the networking life been since it seems the majority of right wingers have left you panzy little fucks to argue between yourselves?

[ROdger Right]

Amazing news, Iwent to the gym 3 days in a row.

I dont think ive ever done that. Had to skip out on day 4 but hopefully ill be going tonight.

[Marika]

Amazing news, Iwent to the gym 3 days in a row.

I dont think ive ever done that. Had to skip out on day 4 but hopefully ill be going tonight.
Bravo!!!:)

[ROdger Right]

Bravo!!!:)

Courtesy bows :) (:

[Martha]

There are many ways to quit tobacoo. Should you do it on your own? Would a group program or personal counseling be more effective? What about medications and alternate therapies? BC has a variety of services to support people who are trying to quit. Quitting is a very individual journey. Talk with your doctor, counsellor or another health professional to select the best option or combination of options for you.

[ROdger Right]

There are many ways to quit tobacoo. Should you do it on your own? Would a group program or personal counseling be more effective? What about medications and alternate therapies? BC has a variety of services to support people who are trying to quit. Quitting is a very individual journey. Talk with your doctor, counsellor or another health professional to select the best option or combination of options for you.

I have an invention to help people quit in the works although I dare not say more.

Im in a transiet state and until I leave it there is no hope of changing habits or addictions this I know for certain. Probably why I have not done so yet.

Groups and such things can help people but not me. I laid this on myself and only I can do away with it.

[Bill Cosby]

I have an invention to help people quit in the works although I dare not say more.

Im in a transiet state and until I leave it there is no hope of changing habits or addictions this I know for certain. Probably why I have not done so yet.

Groups and such things can help people but not me. I laid this on myself and only I can do away with it.
Well Rog you are not doing to good on your own so it would seem you really have nothing to loZe by grouping up w/ others in the same boat...

Give it a shot.....:thumbsup:

[Marika]

My niece and son both used Chantix, and quit smoking within a week. But for some people it causes behavior changes and so you have to be aware of that.