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Smurf-Herder
08-15-2009, 07:04 PM
I wasn't sure if TARP was a good idea from the start. But now that $700 Billion is out there (with still no accounting of where the money's going), why are we still seeing an increasing number of bank failures? Apparently TARP should be called TARD.

Colonial BancGroup and Pennsylvania thrift shut

WASHINGTON (AP) - Regulators on Friday shut down Colonial BancGroup Inc., a big lender in real estate development that marked the biggest U.S. bank failure this year, and a small bank in Pennsylvania.

The closures boosted to 74 the number of federally insured banks that have failed in 2009.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was appointed receiver of Montgomery, Ala.-based Colonial, with about $25 billion in assets, and Dwelling House Savings and Loan Association, located in Pittsburgh. The agency approved the sale of Colonial's $20 billion in deposits and about $22 billion of its assets to BB&T Corp., which is based in Winston-Salem, N.C. The failed bank's 346 branches in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Nevada and Texas will reopen at the normal times starting on Saturday as offices of BB&T, the FDIC said.

Dwelling House had $13.4 million in assets and $13.8 million in deposits as of March 31. PNC Bank, part of Pittsburgh-based PNC Financial Services Group Inc., has agreed to assume all of Dwelling House's deposits and about $3 million of its assets; the FDIC will retain the rest for eventual sale.

Dwelling House's lone office in Pittsburgh will reopen Monday as a branch of PNC Bank, the FDIC said.

The FDIC estimates that the cost to the deposit insurance fund from the failure of Dwelling House will be $6.8 million. The failure of Colonial is expected to cost the deposit insurance fund an estimated $2.8 billion.

The 74 bank failures nationwide this year compare with 25 last year and three in 2007.

As the economy has soured - with unemployment rising, home prices tumbling and loan defaults soaring - bank failures have cascaded and sapped billions out of the deposit insurance fund. It now stands at its lowest level since 1993, $13 billion as of the first quarter.

While losses on home mortgages may be leveling off, delinquencies on commercial real estate loans remain a hot spot of potential trouble, FDIC officials say. If the recession deepens, defaults on the high-risk loans could spike. Many regional banks hold large numbers of them.

The number of banks on the FDIC's list of problem institutions leaped to 305 in the first quarter - the highest number since 1994 during the savings and loan crisis - from 252 in the fourth quarter. The FDIC expects U.S. bank failures to cost the insurance fund around $70 billion through 2013.

The May closing of struggling Florida thrift BankUnited FSB is expected to cost the insurance fund $4.9 billion, the second-largest hit since the financial crisis began. The costliest was the July 2008 seizure of big California lender IndyMac Bank, on which the insurance fund is estimated to have lost $10.7 billion.

The largest U.S. bank failure ever also came last year: Seattle-based thrift Washington Mutual Inc. fell in September, with about $307 billion in assets. It was acquired by JPMorgan Chase & Co. for $1.9 billion in a deal brokered by the FDIC.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090815/D9A30GHG0.html

Thai Kimchi
08-15-2009, 10:53 PM
Not sure why you think this story is worth mentioning. Your article clearly states Colonial (an Alabama bank taking it in the shorts after their hapless depositors got their wish and GWB did a second term) going belly-up will cost the deposit insurance fund an estimated $2.8 billion. That's literally pocket change for the Feds - hell, Bush spent that much in Iraq in a few days, and Bush gave AIG how much?.....$70 billion?

This is like reporting a jaywalker on the evening news.

mwillman
08-15-2009, 11:00 PM
What smurf doesn't seem to get is that banks fail even when the economy is strong. Some banks just don't compete well.

Smurf-Herder
08-15-2009, 11:23 PM
The story is worth mentioning because it involves 74 bank failures this year - three times as many as last year. TARP was supposed to stabilize the banking system.

Thai Kimchi
08-15-2009, 11:39 PM
TARP was designed to stop the financial meltdown on both WS and Bank ledgers - and it appears to have worked. No stock market crash, no run on the banks, business uninterrupted.

If you're this upset about bank failures and gub'mint bailouts, be more careful who you vote for in the future - I hope Bush/Cheney/Paulson taught you a good lesson.

doctordog
08-15-2009, 11:42 PM
TARP was designed to stop the financial meltdown on both WS and Bank ledgers - and it appears to have worked. No stock market crash, no run on the banks, business uninterrupted.

If you're this upset about bank failures and gub'mint bailouts, be more careful who you vote for in the future - I hope Bush/Cheney/Paulson taught you a good lesson.

Actually Clinton taught us the lesson forcing lending institutions to lend to unqualified borrowers.

Zebulon0351
08-15-2009, 11:44 PM
Actually Clinton taught us the lesson forcing lending institutions to lend to unqualified borrowers.

As did Bush when he ran his 2004 campaign pushing for minority home-ownership. Just forgot about that?

Thai Kimchi
08-15-2009, 11:48 PM
As did Bush when he ran his 2004 campaign pushing for minority home-ownership. Just forgot about that?

"Thanks to being the most productive workforce in America, and I might say, thanks to good policies, this economy is strong and it's getting stronger," Bush told supporters.

Noting that 68 percent of Americans own their own homes, Bush said, "Home sales were the highest ever recently. That's exciting news for the country."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/bush.homes/index.html

doctordog
08-16-2009, 12:11 AM
"Thanks to being the most productive workforce in America, and I might say, thanks to good policies, this economy is strong and it's getting stronger," Bush told supporters.

Noting that 68 percent of Americans own their own homes, Bush said, "Home sales were the highest ever recently. That's exciting news for the country."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/bush.homes/index.html

5 years ago? :lmao2: :lmao2:

Thai Kimchi
08-16-2009, 12:35 AM
5 years ago? :lmao2: :lmao2:

Actually Clinton taught us the lesson......lol

Are you suggesting GWB was pres before Clinton?

You home schooled?

doctordog
08-16-2009, 12:41 AM
Actually Clinton taught us the lesson......lol

Are you suggesting GWB was pres before Clinton?

You home schooled?

I cited Clinton legislation policies, you quoted a conference 5 years ago when things were good!:lmao2:

589

Thai Kimchi
08-16-2009, 12:48 AM
I like your new sig block, Mr wayers. Very appropriate!

doctordog
08-16-2009, 12:49 AM
I like your new sig block, Mr wayers. Very appropriate!

I am glad since it refers to you Kind of Spam

Thai Kimchi
08-16-2009, 12:50 AM
aw....you pussed out on the spam sig block. Oh well.

doctordog
08-16-2009, 12:51 AM
aw....you pussed out on the spam sig block. Oh well.

Anything else boy?:lmao2:

mwillman
08-16-2009, 02:03 AM
Hey wayer if you have nothing to add to the post then in the end your just a troll.

doctordog
08-16-2009, 02:05 AM
Hey wayer if you have nothing to add to the post then in the end your just a troll.


which is what you just did now trolly:hi:

mwillman
08-16-2009, 02:06 AM
Yes well when in Rome.

'Im still wondering did you have a Mullet or did your hair fall out when you were still in high school.

doctordog
08-16-2009, 02:08 AM
Yes well when in Rome.

'Im still wondering did you have a Mullet or did your hair fall out when you were still in high school.

You aren't jacking off right now are you?591

mwillman
08-16-2009, 02:10 AM
I see you are sinking lower every day.

Not to worry little banjo boy, Stupid southern people dont excite me.

ROdger Right
08-16-2009, 02:16 AM
Not unless theyre 3 shades darker than the inside of a cows ass right mwillman

doctordog
08-16-2009, 02:18 AM
I see you are sinking lower every day.

Not to worry little banjo boy, Stupid southern people dont excite me.

Nothing you can't handle with your own two hands huh? is that crazy?:lmao2:

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