Am I an insensitive jerk?

[Surfrider]

I swear I would rather starve than call people at home and try to get them to buy some crap. It is tasteless and they are pests. You can see from this photo of a telemarketing office, they are ashamed, and they hide their face. They should be ashamed especially for the older and disabled people they bother.

http://www.californiamortgagehomeloanbrokers.com/Images/telemarkroom1.jpg

For thinking this way, Am I an insensitive jerk?

[Surfrider]

It is my phone. I pay the bill. I should not be subjected to junk sales call interuptions. Am I an insensitive jerk?
http://images.asia.ru/img/alibaba/photo/51268427/Wireless_Telephone.jpg

[Thai Kimchi]

That lady in the dark floral print is surely embarrassed - sitting there holding up a black sheet of paper. Too obvious.

[Independent Harry]

lol, we instituted telemarketing for the mortgage company I own. and we are helping seniors that are living almost on nothing get reverse mortgages and actually get income from their houses. It's amazing how greatful people are when you can eliminate a mortgage payment that takes up 70% of their income and even get them income on a monthly basis. I feel like we are doing people a service by calling them at home...

oh and the answer is yes, you are an insensitive jerk :)

[ciaobox]

you are not! and i thought you and surfcaster were the same person until now. :(

[Parade Rain]

No, but you are a shameless shill for Obama.

[deadnun]

You own the phone and pay for the service, but you do not own
telecommunication lines. The law allows them to make calls with some
restrictions.

I did call work for a short time, it was the only work I could get at the time.

I quit because I got tired of people being pissed off,
then I went to work in the Florida elections for 2004 :lmao2:

The same office where 2-3 file boxes of votes were left in front
of a supervisor's desk uncounted and found 3 weeks after the election.

[Bill Cosby]

They are not suppose to do it here in Cali............ But the politicians wrote a pass for themselves of course....

But I still get @ least one call a day from India or wherever.....

I say hello & if there is a delay I hang up immediately...

[John Galt]

lol, we instituted telemarketing for the mortgage company I own. and we are helping seniors that are living almost on nothing get reverse mortgages and actually get income from their houses. It's amazing how greatful people are when you can eliminate a mortgage payment that takes up 70% of their income and even get them income on a monthly basis. I feel like we are doing people a service by calling them at home...

oh and the answer is yes, you are an insensitive jerk :)
Most of the seniors I know, have satisfied their mortgages a long time ago.

Reverse mortgages can work well for some, but it is predatory for others.

What happens if these people just keep on living?

[Thai Kimchi]

This has nothing to do with the thread, but still merits attention. Not trick photography.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mdUiSbwF3Bo/SoUL6rFPdYI/AAAAAAAAA2w/ItfDFerL_QE/s320/A-squirrel-who-appeared-i-001.jpg

If it isn't fake, why is the squirrel in the center of the picture instead of the couple?

[Binky]

If you're an insensitive jerk, then I guess I am as well. I can't stand telemarketers. They get you on the phone and force you to be rude to them by saying something not so nice or just flat out hanging up on them. I usually just hang up because they will just keep on yappin' and yappin' and not let you get a word in edgewise. Grrr! I hate it when I'm forced into a position where I have to be rude. Grrr!

[Surfrider]

lol, we instituted telemarketing for the mortgage company I own. and we are helping seniors that are living almost on nothing get reverse mortgages and actually get income from their houses. It's amazing how greatful people are when you can eliminate a mortgage payment that takes up 70% of their income and even get them income on a monthly basis. I feel like we are doing people a service by calling them at home...

oh and the answer is yes, you are an insensitive jerk :)

My father has sleepless nights, and often sleeps until noon. Almost daily one of these commission paid telemarketeers wakes him up. If we wanted to get a mortgage we would call the our bank. What kind of idiot would buy a mortgage from a stranger on the phone? Isn't this the kind of crap Bush pulled that got us into the housing crisis?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rW-OJ48AJBU/ShPpLr5Oa9I/AAAAAAAAKsA/rkdtWmEoJCQ/s320/lower-mortgages-00.jpg

[Surfrider]

No, but you are a shameless shill for Obama.

First of all, I am not shameless, I am proud to be part of the Democratic Party movement to put capitalists in their place, promote free enterprise for small business, restructure American corporations, and bring health care to everyone. It is something I will proudly tell my grandchildren about.

Since I was not exactly sure what a "shill" is I looked it up.

I thought those records were sealed! I was only 17, we were out of beer, and it was my turn to buy. My fake ID was really bad, so I paid a guy to buy beer for me. After the purchase, I only had 50 cents left, so I could not pay the entire dollar I had promised. I swore I would pay him the next time I saw him, but I never did. I have lived with this guilt all my life, thank you bring it out in the open. I feel much better.

http://decibelmagazine.com/admin/assets/uploads/pabst-blue-ribbon.jpg

[deadnun]

I only have a cell phone and rarely get marketing calls.
The last company that spammed cell phones got into trouble.

Landline people are the ones still getting this harrassment.

[ROdger Right]

Damn dude PBR broke ya. Good beer but i like natty ice and they cost about the same.

You ever hear stories about teenagers who end up killing the hey mr. guy because the deal went bad. Its always for something like 5 bucks too.

[Independent Harry]

Most of the seniors I know, have satisfied their mortgages a long time ago.

Reverse mortgages can work well for some, but it is predatory for others.

What happens if these people just keep on living?

nothing, they never have to pay the mortgage again. The government insures the mortgages from the start. So let's say someone lives longer than expected. They will still recieve the income they were promised from day 1 and when they pass the family will never owe more than what the house sells for beacuse the government makes up the difference. So let's say someone does own their house free and clear, but they only make $1300 a month between the two of them. I've met quite a few people in that situation. That's nothing, all they can do is live. They can't go anywhere or do anything. Their energy bill's cover at least 1/3 of that, add in taxes, home insurance, ect... half their income is gone. They still have to eat, buy clothes, repairs to the property...it all adds up quick. What if I could double that income for them. Now they get to live out their golden years wth some dignity. They have extra money to do things for the grandkids and have some fun with life.

What happens when one of them dies, and their income drops by 1/2 or more possibly? Sure they own the house free and clear, but will they still be able to afford even the property taxes? Chances are they are loosing that house on $650/month.

The reverse isn't always someone's best option. But for a lot of people these days it's a great one.

[Independent Harry]

My father has sleepless nights, and often sleeps until noon. Almost daily one of these commission paid telemarketeers wakes him up. If we wanted to get a mortgage we would call the our bank. What kind of idiot would buy a mortgage from a stranger on the phone? Isn't this the kind of crap Bush pulled that got us into the housing crisis?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rW-OJ48AJBU/ShPpLr5Oa9I/AAAAAAAAKsA/rkdtWmEoJCQ/s320/lower-mortgages-00.jpg

lol, seriously dude...no paid telemarketer wakes him up. Don't feed me bull shit, all he has to do is put himself on the DNC list and then can sue that telemarketer for 5 grand every time he calls.

You own a business? You ever tried to get your services out to the public? I have a better question, what kind of idiot works for someone else for the rest of their lives? Only to retire and have nothing. Oh wait, lots of people fell into that trap. Most people have never even heard of a reverse mortgage, in fact. It's more than likely your local bank doesn't even do it. So we help them learn about a program they otherwise would not know about. So maybe you don't like telemarketers, and a lot of people don't. But they facilitate helping a lot of people...

The crap that Bush pulled was deregulating the market. The loan programs were risky, but it wouldn't have happened if everyone thought these mortgage backed securities couldn't loose because they were insured by companies like AIG. Banks woulnd't have lended that kind of funny money if the market hadn't introduced the insurance products it did. Banks figured even if they borrower defaulted they would just get paid from the insurance. No risk on their part, so they did whatever they wanted...

[Surfrider]

Damn dude PBR broke ya. Good beer but i like natty ice and they cost about the same.

You ever hear stories about teenagers who end up killing the hey mr. guy because the deal went bad. Its always for something like 5 bucks too.

This is one of the few Wikipedia entries that surprised me.

Pabst Brewing Company
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pabst Brewing Company

Location Woodridge, Illinois
Year opened 1844

Active beers
Name Type
Ballantine Ale Blonde Ale
Black Label Pale Lager
Blatz Pale Lager
Champale Malt Liquor
Colt 45 Malt Liquor
Country Club Malt Liquor
Jacob Best Pale Lager
Lone Star Pale Lager
Lone Star Light Light Pale Lager
McSorley's Ale Blond Ale
McSorley's Irish Style Lager Pale Lager
McSorley's Black and Tan Porter
National Bohemian Pale Lager
Old Milwaukee Pale Lager
Old Style Pale Lager
Olympia Lager
Pabst Blue Ribbon Pale Lager
Pabst Ice Ice
Pearl Pale Lager
Pearl Light Light Pale Lager
Piel's Pale Lager
Primo Island Lager Pale Lager
Rainier Lager Pale Lager
Schaefer Pale Lager
Schlitz Pale Lager
Schmidt's Pale Lager
Special Export Pale Lager
St. Ides Malt Liquor
Stag Pale Lager
Stroh's Pale Lager

Pabst Brewing Company is an American company founded in 1844 by Jacob Best. Best known for Pabst Blue Ribbon beer, it is historically associated with Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where it was founded, although its corporate headquarters are now in Woodridge, Illinois. The Pabst brands make up 2.8% of the American beer market.

In 1999, the Pabst Brewing Company began transferring its production to Miller Brewing Company on a contractual basis. In 2001, it closed its last brewery in Allentown, Pennsylvania. The announced InBev purchase of Anheuser-Busch in July 2008 prompted Pabst to claim to be the largest American-owned brewer. In fact, it is a "virtual brewer," a marketing company whose 85 brands are brewed by either Miller Brewing Company or Lion.

Pabst is owned by a not-for-profit trust based in California, S&P Company.

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8d/LoneStarLogo.jpg/250px-LoneStarLogo.jpg

The name of this thread is:

Am I an insensitive jerk?

[MintJulep]

If you're an insensitive jerk, then I guess I am as well. I can't stand telemarketers. They get you on the phone and force you to be rude to them by saying something not so nice or just flat out hanging up on them. I usually just hang up because they will just keep on yappin' and yappin' and not let you get a word in edgewise. Grrr! I hate it when I'm forced into a position where I have to be rude. Grrr!I've found the perfect way to handle them. Tell them you're sorry but you're on the other line long distance and do they have a number you can call them back at. Works every time. :D

[Surfrider]

I've found the perfect way to handle them. Tell them you're sorry but you're on the other line long distance and do they have a number you can call them back at. Works every time. :D

Smart thinking! I'll give it a try.

[MintJulep]

It works every time! Guar-ON-teed! :lmao2:

I mean, what else can they say? "No, you can't continue your call?" Nope.

[Thai Kimchi]

There's no need for any conversation with telemarketers. After I see the caller ID and know it's a company's name or toll free number I'm unfamiliar with, I answer and before they can say a single word, I say "Don't you EVER call this number again" and hang-up. Works every time.

[Smurf-Herder]

Whatever happened to the "No Call List"?

Anybody remember that?

[Moby]

Whatever happened to the "No Call List"?

Anybody remember that?
It's still there are takes about 90 seconds to get on it.

[Smurf-Herder]

It's still there are takes about 90 seconds to get on it.

I guess it makes the whole point of this thread moot.

[CosmicRocker]

I've found the perfect way to handle them. Tell them you're sorry but you're on the other line long distance and do they have a number you can call them back at. Works every time. :D
Haven't you all heard of the "do not call" list???
It gets you off of commercial ( but not charitable) telemarketing lists.

I did telemarketing most of my life, bullcrap stuff in high school.
I also worked for a Patent Atty for 20 years, answering calls to his adds.

Now I work INBOUND calls ONLY for those #800 informercials.

Anytime you see them on TV, you might reach me. :hi:
*Tell them Cosmic sent you* -
i'll throw in some gift cards, and free magazines fer ya.

I wouldn't work outgoing telemarketing anymore - it's really been abused.
and rightfully hated.

[Betty Blowtorch]

Whatever happened to the "No Call List"?
It's just a CLICK (https://www.donotcall.gov/) away.

[CosmicRocker]

It's just a CLICK (https://www.donotcall.gov/) away.
It does a good job, although one or 2 tele's slip thru.

All you have to do is MENTION the Do not Call list, and they will hang up.
Big fines for corps. who violate it.

[Betty Blowtorch]

It does a good job, although one or 2 tele's slip thru.

All you have to do is MENTION the Do not Call list,
and they will hang up.

Big fines for corps. who violate it.
At first I thought this was a silly thread, but if it informs
everyone about the Do Not Call List and motivates them
to take a few moments to register (https://www.donotcall.gov/), then it will serve a
useful purpose.

It motivated me to register again. Under the old program,
you had to re-register every five years, but now you only
have to register once, and it's permanent (unless you
change your phone number.)

It really is quick and easy. Everyone should do it.

[MintJulep]

There's no need for any conversation with telemarketers. After I see the caller ID and know it's a company's name or toll free number I'm unfamiliar with, I answer and before they can say a single word, I say "Don't you EVER call this number again" and hang-up. Works every time.Well that's just rude. After all, they are simply doing a job. I treat people the way I'd like to be treated. I prefer a way to remain polite yet get off the phone, and I think my routine works well.

[MintJulep]

Haven't you all heard of the "do not call" list???
It gets you off of commercial ( but not charitable) telemarketing lists.

I did telemarketing most of my life, bullcrap stuff in high school.
I also worked for a Patent Atty for 20 years, answering calls to his adds.

Now I work INBOUND calls ONLY for those #800 informercials.

Anytime you see them on TV, you might reach me. :hi:
*Tell them Cosmic sent you* -
i'll throw in some gift cards, and free magazines fer ya.

I wouldn't work outgoing telemarketing anymore - it's really been abused.
and rightfully hated.I had signed up for it a long time ago, maybe I should re-sign up......

[CosmicRocker]

I had signed up for it a long time ago, maybe I should re-sign up......
Yes. It has to be renewed every year or 2. not sure the time limit.

[CosmicRocker]

At first I thought this was a silly thread, but if it informs
everyone about the Do Not Call List and motivates them
to take a few moments to register (https://www.donotcall.gov/), then it will serve a
useful purpose.

It motivated me to register again. Under the old program,
you had to re-register every five years, but now you only
have to register once, and it's permanent (unless you
change your phone number.)

It really is quick and easy. Everyone should do it.Ah OK. posted before i saw yours.

One stop, and you're good to go .:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

Thnx all....

I did it again... I think I did a few years ago......

Any way I did not get a confirmation??

I did it again & still nothing???

[Betty Blowtorch]

I did it again...

Any way I did not get a confirmation??

I did it again & still nothing???
I just registered three numbers, and they all went through
with no problem. I checked my email right after registering,
and there were three new emails, one for each number.

I clicked on the link in each email and got a confirmation
for each number I registered.

Did you have any problem with your email?

[Bill Cosby]

It came eventually---- Took eons in internet time. Almost 5 mins.....lol

Not like I am out in the middle of nowhere...........

We will see if it makes a difference..........

Most of the ones I get are from cards that I have........

[doctordog]

It came eventually---- Took eons in internet time. Almost 5 mins.....lol

Not like I am out in the middle of nowhere...........

We will see if it makes a difference..........

Most of the ones I get are from cards that I have........

We bought a new house last year and now just use cell phones and we haven't had one marketing call since.

[Bill Cosby]

We bought a new house last year and now just use cell phones and we haven't had one marketing call since.

That is cool... I have to have a land line for my DSL..........

[doctordog]

That is cool... I have to have a land line for my DSL..........

Have you not got a cable company in the area or wireless?

[Bill Cosby]

Have you not got a cable company in the area or wireless?

Yes. We have comcast cable & sure west is in the area as well. DSL is a bit cheaper & almost just as fast..........

The + is I can have direct tv & comcast was not very reliable.......... When I dumped them they were going off all the time. for as little as a few minute up to days............

So it was not worth it................

[Surfrider]

It works every time! Guar-ON-teed! :lmao2:

I mean, what else can they say? "No, you can't continue your call?" Nope.

Yep!

http://www.noehill.com/nevada_county_california/images/telephone_plaque_thumb.jpg

[Surfrider]

lol, seriously dude...no paid telemarketer wakes him up. Don't feed me bull shit, all he has to do is put himself on the DNC list and then can sue that telemarketer for 5 grand every time he calls...

You own a business? You ever tried to get your services out to the public? I have a better question, what kind of idiot works for someone else for the rest of their lives? Only to retire and have nothing.

You know, Harry, you are as full of it as DCJ folks say around here. First of all the DNC list does not work. Telemarketers still call anyway. Secondly, I have a little bit more to do than tie myself up with lawyers for the next two years trying to "get 5 grand every time (some telemarketer), calls."

If you are trying to justify starting a new business as a reason to interrupt my privacy, you are just an inconsiderate ass-hole! If telemarketing is your big business plan to sell your products, you have no plan at all. I don't care who you work for. I don't care about your retirement. All I care about is that you "and your kind," stay off my telephone line!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/11/10/frustration_narrowweb__300x349,0.jpg

[ROdger Right]

Shit ill take a telemarketer anyday over a recruicter:talktothehand:

[Independent Harry]

You know, Harry, you are as full of it as DCJ folks say around here. First of all the DNC list does not work. Telemarketers still call anyway. Secondly, I have a little bit more to do than tie myself up with lawyers for the next two years trying to "get 5 grand every time (some telemarketer), calls."

If you are trying to justify starting a new business as a reason to interrupt my privacy, you are just an inconsiderate ass-hole! If telemarketing is your big business plan to sell your products, you have no plan at all. I don't care who you work for. I don't care about your retirement. All I care about is that you "and your kind," stay off my telephone line!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/11/10/frustration_narrowweb__300x349,0.jpg

lol, nice to see that you can maintain an intelligent conversation. The DNC list works quite well, as its supposed to. Everything we do is constantly scrubbed against the DNC list. Because we don't want to get jammed for an easy 5k in someone else's pocket.

My business plan is working great. Just because you can't figure out how to google the DNC and spend 30 sec's registering your dad or yourself doesn't have anything to do with my plan. It really reflects on you intelligence. I may be an inconsiderate asshole, in fact I get called an asshole almost daily. I don't care, all I care about is that I get to do what I want in this life because I make the kind of money that I need to do it.

So you keep ranting about telemarketers, and I'll keep making money, and we'll see who ends up happier...

[Bill Cosby]

Shit ill take a telemarketer anyday over a recruicter:talktothehand:

Military???

[ROdger Right]

All branches, although the navy is the most persistent at the moment.

Well except the air force but I wouldnt expect them to call.

[Bill Cosby]

All branches, although the navy is the most persistent at the moment.

Well except the air force but I wouldn't expect them to call.

Well Ihope you are holding out.... :mad: Once you get in the service it is not going to be nice jogs w/ some girls from school & bowling- they own your ass. Literally- you become gov property...........:thumbsup:

One of my daughters just graduated HS & was thinking of going into the army........ I guess all my years as a conservative were coming back to haunt me.... lol

Anyway I ran it all down to her but she still wanted to do it....... Then I got her to @ least not do the army... I told her the air force or Navy would be better........ A few weeks later she decides on the air force..

They started getting real pushy (& I was continuing to counsel her not to) & that helped turn her off to the idea......... I am glad she decided not to do it...

Good luck w/ it & consider all your options before agreeing to sell yourself for 6 years to the gov........:thumbsup:

[SeniorChief]

It is my phone. I pay the bill. I should not be subjected to junk sales call interuptions. Am I an insensitive jerk?
http://images.asia.ru/img/alibaba/photo/51268427/Wireless_Telephone.jpg

Why don't you simply get Call Intercept. I've had it for years - never hear from telemarketers. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-16-2002/0001800438&EDATE

[Marika]

It's just a CLICK (https://www.donotcall.gov/) away.
Thank you for this.

[Surfrider]

My business plan is working great. Just because you can't figure out how to google the DNC and spend 30 sec's registering your dad or yourself doesn't have anything to do with my plan. It really reflects on you intelligence. I may be an inconsiderate asshole, in fact I get called an asshole almost daily. I don't care, all I care about is that I get to do what I want in this life because I make the kind of money that I need to do it.

So you keep ranting about telemarketers, and I'll keep making money, and we'll see who ends up happier...

I am already on the list. Your post speaks for itself.

http://www.nin.com/images/greed.jpg

[Independent Harry]

I am already on the list. Your post speaks for itself.

http://www.nin.com/images/greed.jpg

Have fun playing the victim then. If you're on the list and your don't penalize the company for violating the law you dont' have anyone to blame but yourself... Good luck with the victim role, never gets your anything worthwhile in life...

[Surfrider]

I may be an inconsiderate asshole, in fact I get called an asshole almost daily. I don't care, all I care about is that I get to do what I want in this life because I make the kind of money that I need to do it.

So you keep ranting about telemarketers, and I'll keep making money, and we'll see who ends up happier...

Harry, I think the members of DCJunkies would agree that you summed yourself up pretty well in your own words yesterday. Before you make any more of a fool out of yourself, you might want to leave this thread. It is uncomfortable for everyone, and you should be embarrassed if you have any intelligence at all.

[Surfrider]

I swear I would rather starve than call people at home and try to get them to buy some crap. It is tasteless and they are pests. You can see from this photo of a telemarketing office, they are ashamed, and they hide their face. They should be ashamed especially for the older and disabled people they bother.

http://www.californiamortgagehomeloanbrokers.com/Images/telemarkroom1.jpg

For thinking this way, Am I an insensitive jerk?
..........

[Independent Harry]

Harry, I think the members of DCJunkies would agree that you summed yourself up pretty well in your own words yesterday. Before you make any more of a fool out of yourself, you might want to leave this thread. It is uncomfortable for everyone, and you should be embarrassed if you have any intelligence at all.

You write like your sitting ina room full of people. There's no one here with me, and again, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. What I'm saying to you is that marketing this aways achieves a purpose for many companies. It's not the only way I market, but one of many. It allows me to live the lifeI want. If you don't like that, well too fucking bad. I'm not going to cry if people like you don't like it...

[Independent Harry]

..........

btw, the older people I bother, some of them make less than a thousand dollars a month and have 60% of their income taken up by a mortgage. We help them able to live with some dignity for their elder years. If you don't like the way I do that, too bad...

[Surfrider]

btw, the older people I bother, some of them make less than a thousand dollars a month and have 60% of their income taken up by a mortgage. We help them able to live with some dignity for their elder years. If you don't like the way I do that, too bad...

Then send them a flyer in the mail, but stay off the phone!

http://www.purple-dragonfly.com/newimages/financing-flyer.jpg

[CosmicRocker]

when you answer the phone, and there is a 2 or 3 second delay before a voice asks "Hi! Is this__?"
You KNOW it's a telemarketer using a predictive dialer.

The computer is dialing multiple numbers, and when the phone is picked up, the telemarketer, will be switched into your call.
But there is a delay of a couple seconds.

Everybody that calls me, answers as soon as I say hello.
If i hear dead air, i just hang up.

[doctordog]

when you answer the phone, and there is a 2 or 3 second delay before a voice asks "Hi! Is this__?"
You KNOW it's a telemarketer using a predictive dialer.

The computer is dialing multiple numbers, and when the phone is picked up, the telemarketer, will be switched into your call.
But there is a delay of a couple seconds.

Everybody that calls me, answers as soon as I say hello.
If i hear dead air, i just hang up.

I use a little yellow whistle that dog trainers use that goes in your mouth, works great:thumbsup:

[CosmicRocker]

I use a little yellow whistle that dog trainers use that goes in your mouth, works great:thumbsup: :lmao2: :hi:

[Surfrider]

I use a little yellow whistle that dog trainers use that goes in your mouth, works great:thumbsup:

Even though I should not have to do it on principle. This I like! THIS I like! Thank you.

http://www.softwarereality.com/soapbox/images/DogEars.jpg

[Independent Harry]

Then send them a flyer in the mail, but stay off the phone!

http://www.purple-dragonfly.com/newimages/financing-flyer.jpg

Nope, too bad...

[Binky]

We bought a new house last year and now just use cell phones and we haven't had one marketing call since.


Same goes for me. Nary a marketing call arrives on my cell....:D

[Binky]

I use a little yellow whistle that dog trainers use that goes in your mouth, works great:thumbsup:



Now I can't imagine why you'd use that, you little puppy dog you....:lmao2: