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MintJulep
08-13-2009, 02:20 AM
Analysis: Press Largely Ignored Incendiary Rhetoric at Bush Protest

News outlets that are focusing on the incendiary rhetoric of conservatives outside President Obama's town hall meeting Tuesday ignored the incendiary rhetoric -- and even violence -- of liberals outside an appearance by former President George W. Bush in 2002.

By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, August 12, 2009

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News outlets that are focusing on the incendiary rhetoric of conservatives outside President Obama's town hall meeting Tuesday ignored the incendiary rhetoric -- and even violence -- of liberals outside an appearance by former President George W. Bush in 2002.

When Bush visited Portland, Ore., for a fundraiser, protesters stalked his motorcade, assailed his limousine and stoned a car containing his advisers. Chanting "Bush is a terrorist!", the demonstrators bullied passers-by, including gay softball players and a wheelchair-bound grandfather with multiple sclerosis.

One protester even brandished a sign that seemed to advocate Bush's assassination. The man held a large photo of Bush that had been doctored to show a gun barrel pressed against his temple.

"BUSH: WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE," read the placard, which had an X over the word "ALIVE."

Another poster showed Bush's face with the words: "F--- YOU, MOTHERF---ER!"

A third sign urged motorists to "HONK IF YOU HATE BUSH." A fourth declared: "CHRISTIAN FASCISM," with a swastika in place of the letter S in each word.

Although reporters from numerous national news organizations were traveling with Bush and witnessed the protest, none reported that protesters were shrieking at Republican donors epithets like "Slut!" "Whore!" and "Fascists!"

Frank Dulcich, president and CEO of Pacific Seafood Group, had a cup of liquid thrown into his face, and then was surrounded by a group of menacing protesters, including several who wore masks. Donald Tykeson, 75, who had multiple sclerosis and was confined to a wheelchair, was blocked by a thug who threatened him.

Protesters slashed the tires of several state patrol cruisers and leapt onto an occupied police car, slamming the hood and blocking the windshield with placards. A female police officer was knocked to the street by advancing protesters, badly injuring her wrist.

The angry protest grew so violent that the Secret Service was forced to take the highly unusual step of using a backup route for Bush's motorcade because the primary route had been compromised by protesters, one of whom pounded his fist on the president's moving limousine.

All the while, angry demonstrators brandished signs with incendiary rhetoric, such as "9/11 - YOU LET IT HAPPEN, SHRUB," and "BUSH: BASTARD CHILD OF THE SUPREME COURT." One sign read: "IMPEACH THE COURT-APPOINTED JUNTA AND THE FASCIST, EGOMANIACAL, BLOOD-SWILLING BEAST!"

Yet none of these signs were cited in the national media's coverage of the event. By contrast, the press focused extensively on over-the-top signs held by Obama critics at the president's town hall event held Tuesday in New Hampshire.

The lead story in Wednesday's Washington Post, for example, is headlined: "Obama Faces 'Scare Tactics' Head-On."

"As the president spoke, demonstrators outside held posters declaring him a socialist and dubbing him 'Obamahdinejad,' in reference to Iran's president," the Post reported. "People screamed into bullhorns to protest a bigger government role in health care. 'Nobama Deathcare!' one sign read. A young girl held up a sign that said: 'Obama Lies, Grandma Dies.' Images of a protester wearing what appeared to be a gun were shown on television."
On Sunday, The New York Times reported that a Democratic congressman discovered that "an opponent of health care reform hanged him in effigy" and was confronted by "200 angry conservatives." The article lamented "increasingly ugly scenes of partisan screaming matches, scuffles, threats and even arrests."

No such coverage was given to the Portland protest of Bush by The New York Times or the Washington Post, which witnessed the protest.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/12/analysis-press-largely-ignored-incendiary-rhetoric-bush-protest/

Hog Trash
08-13-2009, 02:36 AM
The bias of the main stream press has been shown time and again.

The American people are just now beginning to finally catch on.

It's better late than never but the damage is already done.

Bill Cosby
08-13-2009, 02:54 AM
A lot was said about bush........... I didn't see the part about some guy w/ a gun though???

If this guy was Arab or Muslim I think the reactions would be just the fucking opposite....

protesters were shrieking at Republican donors epithets like "Slut!" "Whore!" and "Fascists!"

Bad taste no doubt but do some of those same ppl support the nuts yelling that @ abortion clinics & gay rally's???

Not sure I see any moral high ground here.....

disrupter
08-13-2009, 08:19 AM
That is because the Bush propagandists didn't want you to see that you weren't alone in hating that disgusting piece of filth.

Hog Trash
08-13-2009, 09:07 AM
That is because the Bush propagandists didn't want you to see that you weren't alone in hating that disgusting piece of filth.Why are you always talking about "bush"?

You know you're a "dick" man!

Moby
08-13-2009, 10:41 AM
Lady, this isn't analysis. It's Rupert Murdoch's media outlet and the opinions of his hired hands.

The guy that was in a fight has gotten a ton of press if you haven't noticed. Of course it's hard to tell who started the fight.

Independent Harry
08-13-2009, 11:28 AM
any video evidence of this? Or just more Faux news lies? you do know that the news station lies about shit all the time right? I'd like to see some of this actually happening...

SeniorChief
08-13-2009, 11:30 AM
you do know that the news station lies about shit all the time right?

I didn't know that. Got a link or are you simply making shit up?

John Galt
08-13-2009, 11:34 AM
Apples and Oranges.

The big difference here, is that anyone is given the chance to speak their mind at the town hall meetings. Funny, because the "mind" that they are speaking, has been emailed to them by an Ins co. or lobbyist for same.


With Bush, nobody with a dissenting opinion was allowed anywhere near his speaking engagements. There was a boundary set up, and anyone who didn't subscribe to the Bushco agenda, was kept behind the tape.

Those who did manage to sneak in, were removed as soon as they voiced an opinion......or reached for a shoe.

Thai Kimchi
08-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Hey, good job, 'lady'!

It took you quite a while, but did manage to find some Rupert Murdoch Faux News yellow journalism BS from 2002.

Yep, people protesting Bush as he rode by in a limo is just like angry mobs shutting down town hall meetings while packing heat.

Great reporting!

Hog Trash
08-13-2009, 12:26 PM
Apples and Oranges.

The big difference here, is that anyone is given the chance to speak their mind at the town hall meetings. Funny, because the "mind" that they are speaking, has been emailed to them by an Ins co. or lobbyist for same.Your post reads liberal while your nick reads the complete opposite.

You do know that "John Gault" is a devout libertarian capitalist...An Ayan Rand character in fact.

I suggest you read her novel, ATLAS SHRUGGED, a magnificent work of literature.

To say the Town Hall dissenters were scripted and sent to the meetings by "Ins co. or lobbyist" is rediculous.

Do you really believe that all Americans are totally supportive of government healthcare and anyone who isn't is a plant?

You are either very young and naive or you are a complete imbecile, John Gault.

You probably also believe that anyone who didn't vote for Obama is a racist.

With Bush, nobody with a dissenting opinion was allowed anywhere near his speaking engagements. There was a boundary set up, and anyone who didn't subscribe to the Bushco agenda, was kept behind the tape.

Those who did manage to sneak in, were removed as soon as they voiced an opinion......or reached for a shoe.Bush was so unpopular he rarely scheduled public speaking events.

If he had, nothing he said would have been heard because of people shouting him down much worse than you see at these Town Hall meetings.

Be assured at every press conference Bush held he was surounded by a very hostile crowd of journalists, anxious to rip him to shreds.

You need to either grow up or wise up, whichever comes first John Gault.

Independent Harry
08-13-2009, 02:21 PM
I didn't know that. Got a link or are you simply making shit up?

It's been proven here time and time again. Go through the posts.

Moby
08-13-2009, 02:25 PM
I didn't know that. Got a link or are you simply making shit up?
The term, "all the time" is misleading but you've responded to many posts where Fox News was shown to be flat out lying.

Jowey Styxx
08-13-2009, 07:24 PM
Funny.....

Bush was unpopular because he followed the Osama Bin Ladin playbook. Ignored intelligence of an attack on our "Homeland", took a left turn at Iraq, intimidated Congress into funding a war, allowed war profiteering and sacrificed those willing to defend this country. Bush's "strategy" weakened our position in the world, destabilized the global economy and killed people.

Obama is unpopular because he is trying to provide this country with a functional health care system, address the economic crisis and address the two wars we are in. Basically Obama is trying to help people, for this the people are violently opposed.

John Galt
08-13-2009, 08:26 PM
Your post reads liberal while your nick reads the complete opposite.

You do know that "John Gault" is a devout libertarian capitalist...An Ayan Rand character in fact.

I suggest you read her novel, ATLAS SHRUGGED, a magnificent work of literature.

To say the Town Hall dissenters were scripted and sent to the meetings by "Ins co. or lobbyist" is rediculous.

Do you really believe that all Americans are totally supportive of government healthcare and anyone who isn't is a plant?

You are either very young and naive or you are a complete imbecile, John Gault.

You probably also believe that anyone who didn't vote for Obama is a racist.

Bush was so unpopular he rarely scheduled public speaking events.

If he had, nothing he said would have been heard because of people shouting him down much worse than you see at these Town Hall meetings.

Be assured at every press conference Bush held he was surounded by a very hostile crowd of journalists, anxious to rip him to shreds.

You need to either grow up or wise up, whichever comes first John Gault.

Well, if you read Atlas Shrugged, as I did 30 years ago, you would at least know how to spell my name.


Many of the loudmouths at these town hall meetings are on medicare, as they shout about not wanting the govt. messing with their healthcare.

Tell me again about imbeciles.


Under the previous regime, anyone that didn't tow the line simply wasn't allowed in. His town hall addresses with the military in the background, were very carefully scripted, and only those in the military that supported his blood for oil campaign were allowed in the backdrop.

Notice the the scant few in attendance. If you could engage your brain for a second, you would see the irony of an OP that compares angry citzens that are barred from a speaking engagement, with a bunch of teabaggers that are allowed to speak their minds....

Or at least parrot what they saw on Fox News.

bairdi
08-13-2009, 09:38 PM
Well, if you read Atlas Shrugged, as I did 30 years ago, you would at least know how to spell my name.


Many of the loudmouths at these town hall meetings are on medicare, as they shout about not wanting the govt. messing with their healthcare.

Tell me again about imbeciles.


Under the present regime, anyone that didn't tow the line simply wasn't allowed in. His town hall addresses with the military in the background, were very carefully scripted, and only those in the military that supported his blood for oil campaign were allowed in the backdrop.

Notice the the scant few in attendance. If you could engage your brain for a second, you would see the irony of an OP that compares angry citzens that are barred from a speaking engagement, with a bunch of teabaggers that are allowed to speak their minds....

Or at least parrot what they saw on Fox News.
I can tell that you are new around these parts John. Telling Hog to engage his freaking brain? Damn, that's like telling Rush Limbaugh to engage his liberalism. Hog used up most of his brain cells talking with his buddies Jack Daniels, Hiram Walker and Jimmy Beam and mostly wanders around the confines of DCJ muttering something about the black president and the Puerto Rican Supreme Court Justice while all the while proclaiming he is not racist and railing on about political correctness. Every family has one. Unfortunately we are stuck with him. Welcome to the board!

Life_Long_Dem!
08-14-2009, 02:28 PM
Analysis: Press Largely Ignored Incendiary Rhetoric at Bush Protest

News outlets that are focusing on the incendiary rhetoric of conservatives outside President Obama's town hall meeting Tuesday ignored the incendiary rhetoric -- and even violence -- of liberals outside an appearance by former President George W. Bush in 2002.

By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, August 12, 2009

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News outlets that are focusing on the incendiary rhetoric of conservatives outside President Obama's town hall meeting Tuesday ignored the incendiary rhetoric -- and even violence -- of liberals outside an appearance by former President George W. Bush in 2002.

When Bush visited Portland, Ore., for a fundraiser, protesters stalked his motorcade, assailed his limousine and stoned a car containing his advisers. Chanting "Bush is a terrorist!", the demonstrators bullied passers-by, including gay softball players and a wheelchair-bound grandfather with multiple sclerosis.

One protester even brandished a sign that seemed to advocate Bush's assassination. The man held a large photo of Bush that had been doctored to show a gun barrel pressed against his temple.

"BUSH: WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE," read the placard, which had an X over the word "ALIVE."

Another poster showed Bush's face with the words: "F--- YOU, MOTHERF---ER!"

A third sign urged motorists to "HONK IF YOU HATE BUSH." A fourth declared: "CHRISTIAN FASCISM," with a swastika in place of the letter S in each word.

Although reporters from numerous national news organizations were traveling with Bush and witnessed the protest, none reported that protesters were shrieking at Republican donors epithets like "Slut!" "Whore!" and "Fascists!"

Frank Dulcich, president and CEO of Pacific Seafood Group, had a cup of liquid thrown into his face, and then was surrounded by a group of menacing protesters, including several who wore masks. Donald Tykeson, 75, who had multiple sclerosis and was confined to a wheelchair, was blocked by a thug who threatened him.

Protesters slashed the tires of several state patrol cruisers and leapt onto an occupied police car, slamming the hood and blocking the windshield with placards. A female police officer was knocked to the street by advancing protesters, badly injuring her wrist.

The angry protest grew so violent that the Secret Service was forced to take the highly unusual step of using a backup route for Bush's motorcade because the primary route had been compromised by protesters, one of whom pounded his fist on the president's moving limousine.

All the while, angry demonstrators brandished signs with incendiary rhetoric, such as "9/11 - YOU LET IT HAPPEN, SHRUB," and "BUSH: BASTARD CHILD OF THE SUPREME COURT." One sign read: "IMPEACH THE COURT-APPOINTED JUNTA AND THE FASCIST, EGOMANIACAL, BLOOD-SWILLING BEAST!"

Yet none of these signs were cited in the national media's coverage of the event. By contrast, the press focused extensively on over-the-top signs held by Obama critics at the president's town hall event held Tuesday in New Hampshire.

The lead story in Wednesday's Washington Post, for example, is headlined: "Obama Faces 'Scare Tactics' Head-On."

"As the president spoke, demonstrators outside held posters declaring him a socialist and dubbing him 'Obamahdinejad,' in reference to Iran's president," the Post reported. "People screamed into bullhorns to protest a bigger government role in health care. 'Nobama Deathcare!' one sign read. A young girl held up a sign that said: 'Obama Lies, Grandma Dies.' Images of a protester wearing what appeared to be a gun were shown on television."
On Sunday, The New York Times reported that a Democratic congressman discovered that "an opponent of health care reform hanged him in effigy" and was confronted by "200 angry conservatives." The article lamented "increasingly ugly scenes of partisan screaming matches, scuffles, threats and even arrests."

No such coverage was given to the Portland protest of Bush by The New York Times or the Washington Post, which witnessed the protest.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/12/analysis-press-largely-ignored-incendiary-rhetoric-bush-protest/
As I asserted in the other post on this matter...90+ percent of Bush protesters were not even allowed into his events...anti war protesters were loud and vocally boisterious but non violent and how soon we forget the police state that Minnesota turned into during the republican convention last year which was not even covered by ANY of the so called "liberal" msm and how many death threats did bush and or G.O.P. ers recieve from protesters?

Bill Cosby
08-14-2009, 02:36 PM
Funny.....

Bush was unpopular because he followed the Osama Bin Ladin playbook. Ignored intelligence of an attack on our "Homeland", took a left turn at Iraq, intimidated Congress into funding a war, allowed war profiteering and sacrificed those willing to defend this country. Bush's "strategy" weakened our position in the world, destabilized the global economy and killed people.

Obama is unpopular because he is trying to provide this country with a functional health care system, address the economic crisis and address the two wars we are in. Basically Obama is trying to help people, for this the people are violently opposed.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great points.............

They said what they wanted the cowboy to do...... & he did...

http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/store/assets/images/product/cowboy/cowboy_lg.jpg

Moby
08-14-2009, 02:38 PM
and how many death threats did bush and or G.O.P. ers recieve from protesters?
I don't know.

How many?
Was it more or less then is happening now?
Where they coordinated by lobby groups as they are now?
Was there a large media outlet doing PR for them as now?

deadnun
08-14-2009, 03:08 PM
I don't engage in issues fabricated by FOX News. :p

Hog Trash
08-17-2009, 02:54 PM
Well, if you read Atlas Shrugged, as I did 30 years ago, you would at least know how to spell my name.


Many of the loudmouths at these town hall meetings are on medicare, as they shout about not wanting the govt. messing with their healthcare.

Tell me again about imbeciles.


Under the present regime, anyone that didn't tow the line simply wasn't allowed in. His town hall addresses with the military in the background, were very carefully scripted, and only those in the military that supported his blood for oil campaign were allowed in the backdrop.

Notice the the scant few in attendance. If you could engage your brain for a second, you would see the irony of an OP that compares angry citzens that are barred from a speaking engagement, with a bunch of teabaggers that are allowed to speak their minds....

Or at least parrot what they saw on Fox News.Yes I have read ATLAS SHRUGGED and FOUNTAINHEAD and other works by the great Ayan Rand, although I admit it has been some years.

Like many who lack substance for their irrational liberal beliefs, you try to cover up for it by critiquing the spelling or punctuation of your superior adversaries.

Common sense should tell you if I was that concerned about what the lowly liberals think of my spelling, all I would have to do is hit the "spell-check" key like you guys do.

If you believe John Galt would approve of wealth redistribution through a government healthcare plan, then you know very little of the messege Ayan Rand was trying to convey.

SeniorChief
08-17-2009, 02:56 PM
you've responded to many posts where Fox News was shown to be flat out lying.

Really?

Cite a few examples.

If you're not able to do that, just cite a few examples of Fox News "flat out lying."

Thanks.

Thai Kimchi
08-17-2009, 02:59 PM
Yes I have read ATLAS SHRUGGED and FOUNTAINHEAD and other works by the great Ayan Rand, although I admit it has been some years.

Yes, Hogg, I can tell it's been a few years since you read your favorite author.....in fact......you forgot how to spell her freakin' first name!

Classic.

Thai Kimchi
08-17-2009, 03:03 PM
Really?

Cite a few examples.

If you're not able to do that, just cite a few examples of Fox News "flat out lying."

Thanks.

Here's a whole database full of them, Chief Thunderbird...........


http://www.newshounds.us/

Hog Trash
08-17-2009, 05:52 PM
Yes, Hogg, I can tell it's been a few years since you read your favorite author.....in fact......you forgot how to spell her freakin' first name!

Classic.LOL!....You still on that spelling kick, professor einstein? :lmao2:

I suppose if that's all ya got, then you gotta run with it! :thumbsup:

SeniorChief
08-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Really?

Cite a few examples.

If you're not able to do that, just cite a few examples of Fox News "flat out lying."

Thanks.

I realize you are busy managing porn sites, etc., but would you mind ?

We'd all enjoy viewing your braindead Liberal stupidity -

More so than usual.

Idiot....

Independent Harry
08-18-2009, 12:15 AM
I realize you are busy managing porn sites, etc., but would you mind ?

We'd all enjoy viewing your braindead Liberal stupidity -

More so than usual.

Idiot....

You're an idiot, you've been on the threads where its been proven. No one is going to do that shit for you beacuse of your damn alzheimers anyway. We cite it and you forget it ever happened within an hour and go back to your irrational, emotionally charged, delerious world of psychopaths that feed you lies and misinformation...

Jowey Styxx
08-18-2009, 06:52 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great points.............

They said what they wanted the cowboy to do...... & he did...

http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/store/assets/images/product/cowboy/cowboy_lg.jpg


Bush the windshield cowboy (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1563773/George-Bush-the-Texan-is-scared-of-horses.html).....
Bush a 'windshield cowboy,' Mexico's Fox says (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1005foxspeaks1005.html)....

Kind of funny image since we are having problems with populations that judge leadership in how they handle animals and really looked down on posers, those that claimed to yet did not.

Bill Cosby
08-19-2009, 05:25 AM
How ironic... the man that avoids service in Vietnam starts two wars....http://www.geocities.com/nostalgicaboutmyfuture/Badass.jpg

The man who portrays himself as the big cowboy & is afraid of horses...


where is the world's super-cowboy sitting on a horse?
OK I found one...just one... (http://nostalgicaboutmyfuture.blogspot.com/)

http://www.geocities.com/nostalgicaboutmyfuture/HS376-A.jpg

what is the deal with bush and horses? how can you be a cowboy and not ride a horse? pretty please? can we get a picture of the true cowboy actually on a horse? seriously...george bush sitting on a horse captured on film....anyone?

That's what thought...all hat and no horse....or maybe:

ROdger Right
08-19-2009, 07:08 AM
How ironic... the man that avoids service in Vietnam starts two wars....http://www.geocities.com/nostalgicaboutmyfuture/Badass.jpg

The man who portrays himself as the big cowboy & is afraid of horses...

I think someone else might have started the first war...
:hi:

Now can't hold a fear of horses against a mere mortal man, they did destory SUPERMAN:lmao2: :lmao2:

John Galt
08-19-2009, 07:58 AM
Yes I have read ATLAS SHRUGGED and FOUNTAINHEAD and other works by the great Ayan Rand, although I admit it has been some years.

Like many who lack substance for their irrational liberal beliefs, you try to cover up for it by critiquing the spelling or punctuation of your superior adversaries.

Common sense should tell you if I was that concerned about what the lowly liberals think of my spelling, all I would have to do is hit the "spell-check" key like you guys do.

If you believe John Galt would approve of wealth redistribution through a government healthcare plan, then you know very little of the messege Ayan Rand was trying to convey.


First...you italicized, and wrapped quotes around your version of Galt's spelling. I figured you were trying to correct me.

I quickly devoured everything she wrote, once I started w/The Fountainhead. I was in my 20's, and I liked her message of competence, individualism, and egotism.

However, now that I go back and review some of her works, I find myself in disagreement with some aspects ...For instance...do you believe Howard Roark had the right to burn down that large building, just because he didn't like the way the builders were implementing his design?

Do you honestly think he would be acquitted in a court today? Granted, this took place in the 50's, and in many cases....esp. w/Atlas Shrugged...she was a visionary.


I know many libertarians who denounce her as a libertarian. I never looked at her as anything other than an amazing author, with a devastating vocabulary. I believe her gatherings of student contradicted what she preached about individualism.

I don't need to agree with everything "Rand". I can take what I like from her works, and discard the rest. It helped me learn that....libertarianism can't work in the real world, and that there is merit in many types of social philosophies....including some aspects of socialism.





As for the rest of your response....you are (once again) avoiding the topic in this thread.







You care to discuss wealth redistribution? Let's start with oil speculators driving the price of heating oil/gas through the roof.

After that, we'll discuss funneling trillions of tax dollars into Hallibuton's pockets.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 01:51 PM
You care to discuss wealth redistribution? Let's start with oil speculators driving the price of heating oil/gas through the roof.

After that, we'll discuss funneling trillions of dollars of tax dollars into Hallibuton's pockets.


If we are going to talk Haliburton might as well throw in ACORN.

Zebulon0351
08-19-2009, 01:54 PM
If we are going to talk Haliburton might as well throw in ACORN.

Sure, if you want to compare a mountain to a pebble I'm game.

doctordog
08-19-2009, 02:05 PM
Sure, if you want to compare a mountain to a pebble I'm a game.

I agree you are.:thumbsup: