We've figured him out

[MintJulep]

We've Figured Him Out (http://spectator.org/archives/2009/07/24/weve-figured-him-out)

By Ben Stein (http://spectator.org/people/ben-stein) on 7.24.09 @ 9:45AM

Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?

Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright.

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a "community organizer," Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way too cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond naïveté, all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our future.

The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill -- a great idea in theory -- was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

The American people already know that Mr. Obama's plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never will be -- a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

These are perilous times. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to "protect us" from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms.

There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.

[bairdi]

A lifelong Republican and neoconservative supporter doesn't like what Obama is doing. So what else is new?

[doctordog]

A lifelong Republican and neoconservative supporter doesn't like what Obama is doing. So what else is new?

You are correct, he is lying about his bill and trying to push it through as quickly as possible to avoid answering specific questions about it.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

Again with the very misinformed socialist reference....Obama is not now nore has he ever been socialist...he isnt even liberal...the rights continual reference to socialism makes me laugh everytime I see it:lmao2: you all need to get a clue! as I have stated many times the right has moved so far in that direction that if someone is even small centimeters to the left of you all you think they are too liberal.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

We've Figured Him Out (http://spectator.org/archives/2009/07/24/weve-figured-him-out)

By Ben Stein (http://spectator.org/people/ben-stein) on 7.24.09 @ 9:45AM

Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?
HAHAHA! where is the evidence that it is "socialized " medicine..refer to my post on Norways healthcare compared to what Obama proposes if you want the truth on that!
Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright.

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a "community organizer," Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way too cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond naïveté, all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our future.

typical FALSE righty fear mongering...thats all that is...NO basis in truth at all
The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill -- a great idea in theory -- was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.
The bill simply wasnt big enough for the state the economy was in and NEWSFLASH it was not supposed to be an "overnight" fix to the problem...we most likely wont see positive results until next year...to think it would fix the problem fast is simply naive and ignorant. I live in northwest Ohio and we are now just beginning to see signs of the money...road projects are starting and they are posting signs stating"this project is being funded by the American recovery and reinvestment act'

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

another false misinformed statement


The American people already know that Mr. Obama's plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never will be -- a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

WRONG..FLAT OUT WRONG! it works in other nations and they are still a free society..again reference my norway post.

These are perilous times. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to "protect us" from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms.

There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.
I could go on and finish this post of falsehoods but you get the point

[kres24GT]

The only thing to figure out is he is the exact same as Bush and if you liked Bush, you should Like Obama and vice versa.

[Hog Trash]

The Americans who voted Obama into office are largely responsible for the disaster that Obama is bringing down on us.

But the people who continue to support him regardless of all the evidence of the crisis Obama is creating are the ones who will bare most the blame.

In the end they will lighten the burden of guilt and justify their actions by shifting the blame to the previous Bush administration as if they had nothing to do with it at all.

While their children suffer their parents bad choices...

[Life_Long_Dem!]

what...no comments on my dissection of stein?

[GetAClue]

what...no comments on my dissection of stein?
What did you dissect? You just added stupid baseless comments to a well written and thought out article.


HAHAHA! where is the evidence that it is "socialized " medicine..refer to my post on Norways healthcare compared to what Obama proposes if you want the truth on that!


typical FALSE righty fear mongering...thats all that is...NO basis in truth at all

The bill simply wasnt big enough for the state the economy was in and NEWSFLASH it was not supposed to be an "overnight" fix to the problem...we most likely wont see positive results until next year...to think it would fix the problem fast is simply naive and ignorant. I live in northwest Ohio and we are now just beginning to see signs of the money...road projects are starting and they are posting signs stating"this project is being funded by the American recovery and reinvestment act'

another false misinformed statement

WRONG..FLAT OUT WRONG! it works in other nations and they are still a free society..again reference my norway post.

I guess you nailed him. I am having a hard time believing that you graduated from Bowling Green State University. I know a few people with degrees from that school and I am sure all of them would be embarrassed to claim you as a fellow alumnus with an assertion that you “dissected” Ben Stein’s article with comments like this.

[doctordog]

What did you dissect? You just added stupid baseless comments to a well written and thought out article.













I guess you nailed him. I am having a hard time believing that you graduated from Bowling Green State University. I know a few people with degrees from that school and I am sure all of them would be embarrassed to claim you as a fellow alumnus with an assertion that you “dissected” Ben Stein’s article with comments like this.

I was thinking the exact same thing!:D

[Hog Trash]

what...no comments on my dissection of stein?I'm sorry LLD but you "disected" nothing....You have added nothing positive or negative to this thread.

You sounded more like a small child hollering, uh uh! no way! you're wrong! no! uh uh! not true!

That was the extent of your argument.

[Bill Cosby]

You are correct, he is lying about his bill and trying to push it through as quickly as possible to avoid answering specific questions about it.

LOL.... & the 14,000 Americans losing there care everyday has absolutely nothing @ all to do w/ it................ :banghead:

[doctordog]

LOL.... & the 14,000 Americans losing there care everyday has absolutely nothing @ all to do w/ it................ :banghead:

That is a propaganda scare number Bill, I thought you were above that:thumbsup:

[MintJulep]

LOL.... & the 14,000 Americans losing there care everyday has absolutely nothing @ all to do w/ it................ :banghead:How are they losing their care everyday? You mean, by losing jobs?

[Bill Cosby]

Yep..........

It Dog. It is not some # I made up. Unfort that is what is happening........

How many 10's of millions does it take to make a crisis...........??

[doctordog]

Yep..........

It Dog. It is not some # I made up. Unfort that is what is happening........

How many 10's of millions does it take to make a crisis...........??

All of those do not lose their healthcare, the 6 people we laid off last month retained it through the end of the year at the same cost with their severance pay.

[MintJulep]

Yep..........

It Dog. It is not some # I made up. Unfort that is what is happening........

How many 10's of millions does it take to make a crisis...........??I'm confused as to what your point is.....

If your concern is the unemployment, you should be concerned with "soaking the rich" and raising minimum wage in such a poor economy. It will only lead to more unemployment. Poor people generally don't employ people.

[Bill Cosby]

I'm confused as to what your point is.....

If your concern is the unemployment, you should be concerned with "soaking the rich" and raising minimum wage in such a poor economy. It will only lead to more unemployment. Poor people generally don't employ people.

My concern in this thread is heathcare for all americans........

I am not for soaking the rich........ Likely my worth is more than many here....


It is really simple actually. All the lessor industrialized societies have it. We should to. This is not new or radical.. They have had it a long time now......

If it is good enough for the Swiss, French, Japanese etc./etc.etc... it is good enough for Americans........

[doctordog]

My concern in this thread is heathcare for all americans........

I am not for soaking the rich........ Likely my worth is more than many here....


It is really simple actually. All the lessor industrialized societies have it. We should to. This is not new or radical.. They have had it a long time now......

If it is good enough for the Swiss, French, Japanese etc./etc.etc... it is good enough for Americans........

I have been to France recently and I did not see one thing that made say " Gosh this place is so much better than the US".

It is a nasty country with many lazy people. I could see many of the left enjoying that lifestyle though.

[Bill Cosby]

I have been to France recently and I did not see one thing that made say " Gosh this place is so much better than the US".

It is a nasty country with many lazy people. I could see many of the left enjoying that lifestyle though.

You still boycotting french fries??? :lmao2:

They are not perfect... You should of lied & told them you were a gawd damned Canadian & they would have treated you better........ :thumbsup: lol

They have good care--- Pretty good education w/ free higher education......

Their civilization is a bit older than ours so they been around the block a few times......

I think in the civilized world such as Europe (including the bad Russians), Japan, Taiwan etc being concerned w/ their citizens health is seen as a higher, not lesser indication of civility.......

Health like other forums of change & human dignity is more advanced there, then it is here........

I am confident though, that one day we will catch up......... :thumbsup:

[doctordog]

You still boycotting french fries??? :lmao2:

They are not perfect... You should of lied & told them you were a gawd damned Canadian & they would have treated you better........ :thumbsup: lol

They have good care--- Pretty good education w/ free higher education......

Their civilization is a bit older than ours so they been around the block a few times......

I think in the civilized world such as Europe (including the bad Russians), Japan, Taiwan etc being concerned w/ their citizens health is seen as a higher, not lesser indication of civility.......

Health like other forums of change & human dignity is more advanced there, then it is here........

I am confident though, that one day we will catch up......... :thumbsup:

If/when we catch up as you say, you better like wearing rubber boots because people let their dogs shit right on the sidewalks, it is like walking a steaming mine field!:lmao2:

[Bill Cosby]

If/when we catch up as you say, you better like wearing rubber boots because people let their dogs shit right on the sidewalks, it is like walking a steaming mine field!:lmao2:

I lived in New York City my friend. I know exactly what you mean..... Hot drizzly day w/ the steam coming up off the crap covered payment....... Trying to hold your breath for a block......lol

Hopefully the folks in the city have discovered pooper scooper....

Same in the parks there. Central park you are hard pressed to find a place w/out some near by.........