Opinions On These Rules Please

[Moby]

If you have some constructive comments on these then please make it here. If you're just going to whine consider allowing the adults to discuss these before posting.


No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs.

No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.

No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court.

No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.

No multiple nick names.

No spamming the board.

No bumping your own threads.

No pornographic material.

[MintJulep]

Sounds good to me.

[doctordog]

If you have some constructive comments on these then please make it here. If you're just going to whine consider allowing the adults to discuss these before posting.


No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs.

No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.

No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court.

No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.

No multiple nick names.

No spamming the board.

No bumping your own threads.

No pornographic material.


Go with them and move on, please.

[The Professor]

why is radioguy now banned permanently?

what could he possibly have done in his absence to change the original judgement of a one week ban to life?

[Frankg]

No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.

Even if the the title is hypertexted ?

[Smurf-Herder]

If you have some constructive comments on these then please make it here. If you're just going to whine consider allowing the adults to discuss these before posting.

No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs.
No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.
No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court.
No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.
No multiple nick names.
No spamming the board.
No bumping your own threads.
No pornographic material.
You asshole!

You just changed RadioGuys ban from 5 days to Permanent - for too much drama.

Hey you fucking mentalcase - I'm outta here for good.

BTW, those bestiality porn pictures you have linked to on the adult webmasters board are illegal.
(This statement breaks my own rules) (See Rule #3)

[Hog Trash]

If you have some constructive comments on these then please make it here. If you're just going to whine consider allowing the adults to discuss these before posting.


No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs.

No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.

No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court.

No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.

No multiple nick names.

No spamming the board.

No bumping your own threads.

No pornographic material.
All are fine except this one doesn't work....There are obvious crimes which go unprosecuted for different reasons including wealth, power, political connections or political correctness.

For example your rule would mean we could not refer to illegal immigrants as "illegal" because very few are ever prosecuted regardless of the fact that it is no doubt a crime.

We would have a problem because I believe Obama is a criminal while many believe Bush is a criminal....I believe it would be in the best interest of all if you dropped this one from the list.

The main thing you must remember is to moderate fairly...Something you and Bill have always had a problem with...But if you don't it's no big deal because we've grown accustomed to it.

[Tommy]

OMG... Such Drama...

[Smurf-Herder]

OMG... Such Drama...

Hey good luck. You guys got your left-wing circle-jerk.

SirMoby is now compltely responsible for moderating, unless you find somebody new.

I'm permanently out of here.

I'm sick of his bullshit.

[mwillman]

Hey good luck. You guys got your left-wing circle-jerk.

SirMoby is now compltely responsible for moderating, unless you find somebody new.

I'm permanently out of here.

I'm sick of his bullshit.

You sound like my bi-polar mother, Im leaving, Im leaving, Stays a while then starts screaming Im leaving, Im leaving stays a while longer then here it comes, I'm leaving, Im leaving. Its boring and not very productive.

[Bill Cosby]

Most of us would rather not see him leave..........

He has been posting here for almost two years........... I imagine the guy has some things he wants to say/clear up/get off his chest & some ppl here he cares about so give pls the brotha a break..............

[Smurf-Herder]

Most of us would rather not see him leave..........

He has been posting here for almost two years........... I imagine the guy has some things he wants to say/clear up/get off his chest & some ppl here he cares about so give pls the brotha a break..............

Before I go, I'm checking out PMs for the next couple day - and LadyLiberty and I both nominate you as a new Moderator. You're one of the most fair and open-minded members here; and you may be able to get along with SirMoby better than I could.

[Hog Trash]

Before I go, I'm checking out PMs for the next couple day - and LadyLiberty and I both nominate you as a new Moderator. You're one of the most fair and open-minded members here; and you may be able to get along with SirMoby better than I could.You have got to be shatting me Smurf...ButtCrack and Surferturd are the kings of Moronopolis.

Well of course he's gonna get along with SirMoby....Both of them are flaming liberals maximus suckimus.

How gullible can anyone be?...This guy is a full blown marxist...He is PC and anti freedom of speech as they come.

This is the idiot who thought altering my posts and reposting them back under my name was AOK.....Duhhh?!

Maybe I'm the one who is a bad judge of character Smurf....You certainly fooled me brother.....My bad!

[MintJulep]

You have got to be shatting me Smurf...ButtCrack and Surferturd are the kings of Moronopolis.

Well of course he's gonna get along with SirMoby....Both of them are flaming liberals maximus suckimus.

How gullible can anyone be?...This guy is a full blown marxist...He is PC and anti freedom of speech as they come.With all due respect, you are wrong about BillCosby. He is liberal but he is not anti-free speech at all. Trust me on that one.

[Zebulon0351]

I think Bill would make an excellent moderator, but I think we should keep it evenly balanced across political lines.

I think Prof would be a good replacement. He seems as level headed as Bill, but approaches politics from the right.

Its just my two cents.. take it or leave it.. but in the end I hope Smurf stays around.

[Hog Trash]

With all due respect, you are wrong about BillCosby. He is liberal but he is not anti-free speech at all. Trust me on that one.He most certainly is....His desired speech restrictions are based on the rules of political correctness, besides being an idiot.

I have had discussions with his rediculous ass before I put him on ignore...He's very supportive and direct about what shouldn't be aloud.

Any lefties I've ever seen in the past who believes in PS restrictions usually are looking for stepping stones to full blown censorship.

I can tolerate a marxist and their ignorance but not having their ideology forced down my throat as what will happen if he is moderating.

SirMoby and Bill are bad enough without this nickel-dime HugoChavez/FidelCastro dictater enforcing his marxist adjusted petty rules.

What's wrong with adding a conservative moderater?...Moby and Bill are hard core lefties and Smurf was a middle of the road, more left than right.

[Tommy]

Why not just say I am gonna take a little break...

I Really hope you decide to stay around

[MintJulep]

He most certainly is....His desired speech restrictions are based on the rules of political correctness, besides being an idiot.

I have had discussions with his rediculous ass before I put him on ignore...He's very supportive and direct about what shouldn't be aloud.Again, you are wrong about him. He is against censorship and was always against censorship on other boards in the past and stated as much. When I first met him, we were on a completely unmoderated board and liked it that way. He has always been reasonable and I don't see him banning people like gangbusters. I think your issue with him is a personal one.

[MintJulep]

I think Bill would make an excellent moderator, but I think we should keep it evenly balanced across political lines.

I think Prof would be a good replacement. He seems as level headed as Bill, but approaches politics from the right.

Its just my two cents.. take it or leave it.. but in the end I hope Smurf stays around.Mr. Blue would make a good moderator too.

[Hog Trash]

Again, you are wrong about him. He is against censorship and was always against censorship on other boards in the past and stated as much. When I first met him, we were on a completely unmoderated board and liked it that way. He has always been reasonable and I don't see him banning people like gangbusters. I think your issue with him is a personal one.Personal is absolutely correct...I have him and surfer on ignore.

I've never had a problem with people I disagree with and enjoy a good fight but these guys are frustratingly stupid to the point of being intolerable.

I did my best to tell him to work with what he has instead of feigning 'educated and intelligent' but his dumb ass would not take my advise or heed my warning.

I think BC's an ignorant high school dropout that never makes a point or says anything sensable and usually tries to cover up by rebutting with something cute or witty and fails miserably at both.

How am I going to be moderated by some ignorant fuck that I have on ignore?...Let's be sensable and seek moreration elsewhere...There's no need to scrape the bottom of the septic tank.

[Hog Trash]

Mr. Blue would make a good moderator too.Mr Blue is someone I believe is intelligent and I can agree and disagree with.

He is sensible, a good debater and appears to be up to date on current events....I approve.

[mwillman]

Well you wouldnt be able to keep him on ignore anymore.

I really dont care if smurf leaves or not, I am not one who believes he has been fair and biased in his banning but then Its not been a big worry of mine either.

I like the Idea of mr. blue but I have a feeling he has better things to do. I would not mind Bill either, anything is better then another 2% with megalomaniacal belief in a right wing world that has never existed nor will ever exist.

[Hog Trash]

Why not just say I am gonna take a little break...

I Really hope you decide to stay aroundNo, Smurf should go!....Anyone who would suggest an uneducated marxist moron like Cosby should moderate has lost my confidence.

[Moby]

All are fine except this one doesn't work....There are obvious crimes which go unprosecuted for different reasons including wealth, power, political connections or political correctness.
I believe that ALL DC politicians are criminals and that comes from living most of my life inside the beltway. In my original set of rules I felt it fine to call them all crooks, liars and thieves but Smurf had issue with it so I changed it.

What we need to stop is referring to other people as murderers, rapists and terrorists. Those are serious crimes.

Any suggestions on how to avoid seriously slanderous accusations and still allow people to vent?

[Hog Trash]

I believe that ALL DC politicians are criminals and that comes from living most of my life inside the beltway. In my original set of rules I felt it fine to call them all crooks, liars and thieves but Smurf had issue with it so I changed it.

What we need to stop is referring to other people as murderers, rapists and terrorists. Those are serious crimes.

Any suggestions on how to avoid seriously slanderous accusations and still allow people to vent?So this isn't a ploy to protect Saviour Obama from critism ???

[Moby]

So this isn't a ploy to protect Saviour Obama from critism ???
I already think he's a criminal, liar and cheat. That doesn't mean that calling him a terrorist, a rapist or a murderer is proper.

BTW - Calling illegals, "Illegal" is OK because you're speaking about people that are here illegally.


I am open to a better statement there.

[Hog Trash]

I already think he's a criminal, liar and cheat. That doesn't mean that calling him a terrorist, a rapist or a murderer is proper.

BTW - Calling illegals, "Illegal" is OK because you're speaking about people that are here illegally.


I am open to a better statement there.Does that mean we can't say, "because of Obama's connection to the corrupt Chicago political machine where he began his career at and his ties to Tony Rezko, I believe he is likely a corrupt politician and criminal himself?

[Hog Trash]

BTW - Calling illegals, "Illegal" is OK because you're speaking about people that are here illegally.

I am open to a better statement there.You have made my point for me Moby...Yes they are obviously criminals.

But according to your rule we can't say it because they haven't been charged, prosecuted or convicted.

Our president is aiding and abetting these illegals by refusing to prosecute them...Isn't that a crime?...Guilty as charged!

[Moby]

You have made my point for me Moby...Yes they are obviously criminals.

But according to your rule we can't say it because they haven't been charged, prosecuted or convicted.

Our president is harboring and abetting these illegals by refusing to prosecute them...Isn't that a crime?...Guilty as charged!
Then come up with a better definition.

My point is that not all of the definitions that I've posted are perfect. You wanna help?

[Hog Trash]

Isn't it odd that this rule never came up in all those years of daily accussations of Bush being a criminal???...Go figure!

Only now that Obama is in office does it come about.....What a coincidence?

[Hog Trash]

Then come up with a better definition.

My point is that not all of the definitions that I've posted are perfect. You wanna help?How about the old faithful, tried and true, "IMO".

[Mr. Blue]

Mr. Blue would make a good moderator too.

Mr Blue is someone I believe is intelligent and I can agree and disagree with.

He is sensible, a good debater and appears to be up to date on current events....I approve.

Thanks for the votes of confidence, however, I have absolutely no desire to moderate, lol. I just think it would be wasted on me because I probably would never ban anyone anyway.

In essence, I find order in chaos, and chaos in order. Basically meaning that I just let people throw whatever up and see if any interesting ideas stick. Even the stupidest thread can be challenged and in that challenge you might see a great response.

So yeah, lol, I just think the mod thing would be bling for me and I'd never use it.

[Moby]

Isn't it odd that this rule never came up in all those years of daily accussations of Bush being a criminal???...Go figure!

Only now that Obama is in office does it come about.....What a coincidence?
Actually it came up about a year ago when I saw 4 posts in one day accusing politicians of crimes. I think it was spread equally among Bush and Obama.

Remember, things are generally allowed until they get out of hand. We allowed people to bump threads until someone bumped 20+ so that only his threads appeared on the front page.

We allowed topic spamming until someone kept putting 10 to 15 a day so that no other ideas could be posted on the front page.

We allowed gender and racial slurs until it got out of hand.

[kres24GT]

There is an ignore feature, here, let people choose who to ignore. No reason for these rules except to ban people you disagree with.

[Bill Cosby]

There is an ignore feature, here, let people choose who to ignore. No reason for these rules except to ban people you disagree with.

I agree w/ the racial slur rules...

The reason it is a rule is because they could not self moderate...

Personally I don't want to be associated w/ a board that openly & wantonly allows that shit..........

[kres24GT]

I agree w/ the racial slur rules...

The reason it is a rule is because they could not self moderate...

Personally I don't want to be associated w/ a board that openly & wantonly allows that shit..........


When someone uses a word you don't like, ignore them. Problem solved.

[Bill Cosby]

When someone uses a word you don't like, ignore them. Problem solved.

No the problem is not solved............

They will continue doing it.........

So you want to be associated w/ a site that allows ppl to go off & call ppl those kinda names???

[kres24GT]

No the problem is not solved............

They will continue doing it.........

So you want to be associated w/ a site that allows ppl to go off & call ppl those kinda names???


I don't believe in censoring speech, and words on a screen do not bother me.Certainly it is a private site and the owner(s) have a right to do what they see fit. Words on a computer screen will never affect me though.

[Hog Trash]

With all due respect, you are wrong about BillCosby. He is liberal but he is not anti-free speech at all. Trust me on that one.He most certainly is....His desired speech restrictions are based on the rules of political correctness, besides being an idiot.

I have had discussions with his rediculous ass before I put him on ignore...He's very supportive and direct about what shouldn't be aloud.

Any lefties I've ever seen in the past who believes in PS restrictions usually are looking for stepping stones to full blown censorship.

I can tolerate a marxist and their ignorance but not having their ideology forced down my throat as what will happen if he is moderating.

SirMoby and Bill are bad enough without this nickel-dime HugoChavez/FidelCastro dictater enforcing his marxist adjusted petty rules.

What's wrong with adding a conservative moderater?...Moby and Bill are hard core lefties and Smurf was a middle of the road, more left than right.Again, you are wrong about him. He is against censorship and was always against censorship on other boards in the past and stated as much. When I first met him, we were on a completely unmoderated board and liked it that way. He has always been reasonable and I don't see him banning people like gangbusters. I think your issue with him is a personal one.I normaly cannot see Cosby's posts but this one was quoted making it visible to me...It is a very good example of my point.

He is very much for speech restriction and censorship and it is 100% totally based on the rules of liberal political correctness.Originally Posted by Bill Cosby

I agree w/ the racial slur rules...

The reason it is a rule is because they could not self moderate...

Personally I don't want to be associated w/ a board that openly & wantonly allows that shit..........I am rarely wrong about these things...All liberals will claim they are for free speech but they eventualy expose their real colors along the way.

BC's moderating would be guided by his extremist marxist ideology...Communist have very little since of fairness.

That along with the fact that he is poorly educated and not all that bright to begin with would make his decisions totalitarian in nature.

[Bill Cosby]

I don't believe in censoring speech, and words on a screen do not bother me.Certainly it is a private site and the owner(s) have a right to do what they see fit. Words on a computer screen will never affect me though.

Sure everyone says that. & believes that....... :thumbsup:

It is a preference... I personally would rather not be subjected to it.... They can go get a soap box & say it in a park where they will get the response they deserve....

They use racial slurs were you work??

They use them in your house???

Ppl come over to your BBQ & talk down racially to your other guests???

Simply put it is hate speech @ it's crudest.......... YOu want that?? I don't.. They can go were ppl like them enjoy reading it.....

If I can disrespect your race, your heritage why not your grandmother. Why not your daughter???

This place, as are most places are about discussions sports, politics etc. Not a platform for fucking bigots.......... So if you want your debates to be about bigotry instead politics that is what you will get..........

:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

I normaly cannot see Cosby's posts but this one was quoted making it visible to me...It is a very good example of my point.

He is very much for speech restriction and censorship and it is 100% totally based on the rules of liberal political correctness.I am rarely wrong about these things...All liberals will claim they are for free speech but they eventualy expose their real colors along the way.

BC's moderating would be guided by his extremist marxist ideology...Communist have very little since of fairness.

That along with the fact that he is poorly educated and not all that bright to begin with would make his decisions totalitarian in nature.

I knew you could not resist......... As I said only yesterday...:thumbsup:

I don't know what Mob's views are on hate speech but I make no bones about my views on it......... I fully supported Smurf's opinion. 100 fucking percent.......... If that is a problem it is one I can surely live w/...

I have already addressed the issue......... You don't like my opinion thatZ tuff shit............ It will not change one bit........

You IMHO are a shameless & unceasing whiner.......... You wanna scream racial slurs I will be happy to meet you @ "the site" & we can discuss it there so we don't intrude on sensibilities of the good folks here...........

I will promise you I will even toss in the fucking nazi's & anti-Semites for your entertainment..........

CyA around big guy.............:thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

I believe that ALL DC politicians are criminals and that comes from living most of my life inside the beltway. In my original set of rules I felt it fine to call them all crooks, liars and thieves but Smurf had issue with it so I changed it.



I really hate how you twist everything.

You said that sarcastically. I didn't mean for you to include politicians. I never said for you to include accusations against politicians.

And yes, I'm posting - to clarify your misrepresentations concerning me.

[Zebulon0351]

I really hate how you twist everything.

You said that sarcastically. I didn't mean for you to include politicians. I never said for you to include accusations against politicians.

And yes, I'm posting - to clarify your misrepresentations concerning me.

And to clarify that you are indeed... still around.

[Smurf-Herder]

No, Smurf should go!....Anyone who would suggest an uneducated marxist moron like Cosby should moderate has lost my confidence.

Bill Cosby may be liberal; and I may not agree with all his views. But, he seems the type that's level headed; and not one to abuse power. And he seems a bit more mature than you in his postings. :D

[Smurf-Herder]

And to clarify that you are indeed... still around.

For now ......... and because I got a PM from Tommy. I'm presently in a state of flux.

It's hard to find a board that has a good mix of conservatives and liberals. Most of the other boards are either all left-wing or all right-wing. Kinda boring.

[Mr. Blue]

For now ......... and because I got a PM from Tommy. I'm presently in a state of flux.

It's hard to find a board that has a good mix of conservatives and liberals. Most of the other boards are either all left-wing or all right-wing. Kinda boring.

You could...I don't know...always stay here?

[Zebulon0351]

You could...I don't know...always stay here?
Sounds like a plan to me.

[Hog Trash]

Bill Cosby may be liberal; and I may not agree with all his views. But, he seems the type that's level headed; and not one to abuse power. And he seems a bit more mature than you in his postings. :DAltering my posts is mature???......I mistakingly thought you would make a good moderator...It went straight to your head.

I told you this not more than 2 days after you took on the responsibility...You took on the traits of the liberals when you began moderating.

The PC rules and liberal restrictions quadrupled under your watch...Nothing was balanced for our side by your service, in fact it became more oppressive.

I'm not in the least bit surprised by your love affair with a little marxist piece of shit like Cosby...The idiot believes in all the same speech restrictions you do.

[Smurf-Herder]

Altering my posts is mature???......I mistakingly thought you would make a good moderator...It went straight to your head.

I told you this not more than 2 days after you took on the responsibility...You took on the traits of the liberals when you began moderating.

The PC rules and liberal restrictions quadrupled under your watch...Nothing was balanced for our side by your service, in fact it became more oppressive.

I'm not in the least bit surprised by your love affair with a little marxist piece of shit like Cosby...The idiot believes in all the same speech restrictions you do.

HT, we got that straightened out way back.

No, we had more of a civil atmosphere for true political debate under my watch. I'm sorry you feel that way - but I said right from the start, this isn't "Fight Club." There's no reason to demand the right to continually insult people. The only people that feel that need lack the ability to make a good case for their side of a debate. There's more to being an adult than just saying naughty words.

[Moby]

I really hate how you twist everything.

You said that sarcastically. I didn't mean for you to include politicians. I never said for you to include accusations against politicians.

And yes, I'm posting - to clarify your misrepresentations concerning me.
Whatever Drama Queen. Your comments are in red.

No serious accusations against people that you cannot support. If you call someone a traitor, murder, rapist, terrorist or some other type of serious crime you need to post a link to a news source that actually documents a criminal case against them. The exception is pointing to politicians, lobbyists and pundits as being thieves because that's obvious

The above ends really childishly

I'd love for you to stick around but too much drama is too much drama. Stay or go but save the drama for those that thrive on it.

[Smurf-Herder]

Whatever Drama Queen. Your comments are in red.



BTW, that proves my only comment was that the last part of your rule with the smiley face (which you left out) was a childish comment - and that I did not say to include politicians.

[MintJulep]

I normaly cannot see Cosby's posts but this one was quoted making it visible to me...It is a very good example of my point.

He is very much for speech restriction and censorship and it is 100% totally based on the rules of liberal political correctness.I am rarely wrong about these things...All liberals will claim they are for free speech but they eventualy expose their real colors along the way.

BC's moderating would be guided by his extremist marxist ideology...Communist have very little since of fairness.

That along with the fact that he is poorly educated and not all that bright to begin with would make his decisions totalitarian in nature.I see your point but I know from experience that BC does not like censorship and has stood up against it --as a minority-- on other boards in the past.

He is generally a reasonable person who prefers to be challenged rather than be singing to the choir. You just don't get along with him but he is a congenial person overall.

[MintJulep]

HT, we got that straightened out way back.

No, we had more of a civil atmosphere for true political debate under my watch. I'm sorry you feel that way - but I said right from the start, this isn't "Fight Club." There's no reason to demand the right to continually insult people. The only people that feel that need lack the ability to make a good case for their side of a debate. There's more to being an adult than just saying naughty words.I think you did a good job. Hog Trash is being unfair. I hope you decide to stay.

[Hog Trash]

HT, we got that straightened out way back.

No, we had more of a civil atmosphere for true political debate under my watch. I'm sorry you feel that way - but I said right from the start, this isn't "Fight Club." There's no reason to demand the right to continually insult people. The only people that feel that need lack the ability to make a good case for their side of a debate. There's more to being an adult than just saying naughty words.Actually Smurf our debates use to be livelier and more passionate...Ripping the lowly liberals to shreds was fulfilling.

Liberals like to fight ruthlessly while restricting their opponents to civility...You helped make that possible for them.

[Smurf-Herder]

Actually Smurf our debates use to be livelier and more passionate...Ripping the lowly liberals to shreds was fulfilling.

Liberals like to fight ruthlessly while restricting their opponents to civility...You helped make that possible for them.

I made things fair for both sides.

BTW, I'm back. So be good. :thumbsup:

[MintJulep]

Welcome back, Smurf! :)

[Bill Cosby]

Actually Smurf our debates use to be livelier and more passionate...Ripping the lowly liberals to shreds was fulfilling.

Liberals like to fight ruthlessly while restricting their opponents to civility...You helped make that possible for them.


See my friend this is what I was trying to convey to you.... You like & perhaps prefer/need the circle jerk type site.. This site has moved on......

Don't be afraid....... It will be just like sitting around in the mobile home there sucking some suds & chewing/spitting tobacco' with the boyZ back in the 50's & early 60's.......... You can talk about, clown & disrespect anyone or group you like (long as they are not present:lmao2: )........

[Smurf-Herder]

See my friend this is what I was trying to convey to you.... You like & perhaps prefer/need the circle jerk type site.. This site has moved on......

Don't be afraid....... It will be just like sitting around in the mobile home there sucking some suds & chewing/spitting tobacco' with the boyZ back in the 50's & early 60's.......... You can talk about, clown & disrespect anyone or group you like (long as they are not present:lmao2: )........


Hey Bill, you and Mr. Blue are now fellow moderators. :thumbsup:

[Hog Trash]

All this bullshit about making rules is so rediculous and a waste of time...We all know how it really works around here.

Only one rule needed...The Rule-Anytime a conservative says something a liberal doesn't like he/she will be banned.

Even the owner of this site knows this so why do the moderators even bother to go through these rediculous motions?
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?p=115864#post115864

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[Bill Cosby]

THnX Smurf........

[Hog Trash]

Hey Bill, you and Mr. Blue are now fellow moderators. :thumbsup:
I don't think MrBlue is interested...Thanks for the votes of confidence, however, I have absolutely no desire to moderate, lol. I just think it would be wasted on me because I probably would never ban anyone anyway.

In essence, I find order in chaos, and chaos in order. Basically meaning that I just let people throw whatever up and see if any interesting ideas stick. Even the stupidest thread can be challenged and in that challenge you might see a great response.

So yeah, lol, I just think the mod thing would be bling for me and I'd never use it.
How do you propose I recieve moderation from your buddy Cosby when he has been on my ignore list for quite a while now.

The little Hugo Chavez commie can't even send me a warning.....LOL!

I don't like the idea of Bill Cosby of DCJ having any unposted information about me.

Tell me this is not an issue and I have nothing to worry about...

I'm warning you now that I don't trust Bill Cosby Of DCJ and I rarely make this threat but I have excellent legal representation.

Smurf-Herder, a moderator for DCJ and DCJ and it's owners have been warned of my concerns regarding this matter and is duely recorded.

[Smurf-Herder]

I don't think MrBlue is interested...
How do you propose I recieve moderation from your buddy Cosby when he has been on my ignore list for quite a while now.

The little Hugo Chavez commie can't even send me a warning.....LOL!

I don't like the idea of Bill Cosby of DCJ having any unposted information about me.

Tell me this is not an issue and I have nothing to worry about...

I'm warning you now that I don't trust Bill Cosby Of DCJ and I rarely make this threat but I have excellent legal representation.

Smurf-Herder, a moderator for DCJ and DCJ and it's owners have been warned of my concerns regarding this matter and is duely recorded.


Just chill out. You're too paranoid.

Safety in numbers.

[Hog Trash]

Just chill out. You're too paranoid.

Safety in numbers.Irrational fear is paranoia.

Rational fear is a survival tool.

You never answered my question Smurf?I don't like the idea of Bill Cosby of DCJ having any unposted information about me.

Tell me this is not an issue and I have nothing to worry about...

???????????

[Smurf-Herder]

Irrational fear is paranoia.

Rational fear is a survival tool.

You never answered my question Smurf????????????

No, he can't see your private info. Only myself, Tommy and SirMoby can.

[Hog Trash]

No, he can't see your private info. Only myself, Tommy and SirMoby can.I know what you mean by "Safety in numbers."

Just because you think he's to stupid to find my needle in a haystack doesn't mean he doesn't know someone who can.

I know people who could do it on a lunch break and still have time for desert.

[Smurf-Herder]

I know what you mean by "Safety in numbers."

Just because you think he's to stupid to find my needle in a haystack doesn't mean he doesn't know someone who can.

I know people who could do it on a lunch break and still have time for desert.

All I can say is, treat people the way you want to be treated.

[Hog Trash]

You Tommy and SirMoby are smart enough to know the consequences of misuse of information and have something to lose.

Bill Cosby is dumb as a box of hammers and is a loser bum who has nothing to lose....He is exactly the type to do something stupid.

Hog has been around.

[Hog Trash]

All I can say is, treat people the way you want to be treated.Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about or my concerns.

I don't expect anything from anybody.

[Smurf-Herder]

Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about or my concerns.

I don't expect anything from anybody.

Then go to bed.

I am.

[Mr. Blue]

I don't think MrBlue is interested...
How do you propose I recieve moderation from your buddy Cosby when he has been on my ignore list for quite a while now.

The little Hugo Chavez commie can't even send me a warning.....LOL!

I don't like the idea of Bill Cosby of DCJ having any unposted information about me.

Tell me this is not an issue and I have nothing to worry about...

I'm warning you now that I don't trust Bill Cosby Of DCJ and I rarely make this threat but I have excellent legal representation.

Smurf-Herder, a moderator for DCJ and DCJ and it's owners have been warned of my concerns regarding this matter and is duely recorded.

I didn't want the power, but I so want it now so I can take a look at your unposted information.

[Hog Trash]

I didn't want the power, but I so want it now so I can take a look at your unposted information.Whata ya wanna know?

I might just confess everything.

[Bill Cosby]

Bill Cosby is dumb as a box of hammers and is a loser bum who has nothing to lose....He is exactly the type to do something stupid.

Hog has been around.

Sounds like I am not the only one that has nothing to loZe......:lmao2:

:thumbsup:

The book has been opened.. & you already read every page............

You can PM if you have any questions/comments or just wanna cuss me out....:thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

If you have some constructive comments on these then please make it here. If you're just going to whine consider allowing the adults to discuss these before posting.


No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs.

No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.

No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court.

No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.

No multiple nick names.

No spamming the board.

No bumping your own threads.

No pornographic material.


If you want my honest opinion:

* No spamming the board. has to be clarified.

* No bumping your own threads. Bumping cannot be considered bumping if you're adding additional information.

* No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court. Public figures should be exempt from this - as it would be worthy of debate.

* No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family. This should include repeated personal attacks against another board member.

* No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs. This should include ethnic slurs - or it seems inconsistant.

And there has to be some standard description of courses of action to be taken, depending on the severity or recurrance of violations. In other words, what constitutes enough for a warning, a one day ban, etc.

That's my unbiased assessment of what you propose.

[mwillman]

I thought you were leaving Smurf,

Oh thats right its just more drama.

[Bill Cosby]

He changed his mind............. That is ok isn't it???

[mwillman]

Hey he can do what ever he wants, its only the internet.
I just find it extremely funny that he has these temper tantrums every few months and everyone jumps into the drama like he is suffering.

LOL, some people on the internet take themselves way to seriously.

[Bill Cosby]

Hey he can do what ever he wants, its only the internet.
I just find it extremely funny that he has these temper tantrums every few months and everyone jumps into the drama like he is suffering.

LOL, some people on the internet take themselves way to seriously.

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

That may be true.......... We can all be legends in our own minds but really dog is the only real legend here......... :lmao2:

You can feel any way you like but I just wanna say this. The man changed his mind & personally I am glad he did........

He got the ass now & then.....??? lol

Not like you or I never did during that time???

He is human just like the rest of us........

[mwillman]

True enough,

I hope he jumps back in with both feet but that doesn't mean I have to like him or what he stands for.

[Bill Cosby]

True enough,

I hope he jumps back in with both feet but that doesn't mean I have to like him or what he stands for.

That is absolutely true........

We can all disagree & not like each other much but we can still get along & be civil & respectful....... ;)

[mwillman]

I rarely start them, Bill.

Of course some of them were started a while ago.
I have backed off a few times and in the end its always back to terrorist lover, ... ed nasioum.

[MintJulep]

always back to terrorist lover, ... ed nasioum.Terrorist lover is not a racial or gender slur..........

[mwillman]

It is an insult non the less and you know it.

I never said you had used racial slurs by the way.

[Smurf-Herder]

I thought you were leaving Smurf,

Oh thats right its just more drama.

I was asked to return. Otherwise, it's none of your business.

[mwillman]

I better get ready for another banning. LOL

[Moby]

I've given your opinion months. I just don't believe that we need to make things complicated. You said it yourself that we seem to have a good balance here that doesn't exist elsewhere.

That's because a lot of moderation comes down to common sense. People should know how to act in public. When they don't, it should be explained to them. If they still can't, then they need to leave.

What's so complicated about that?

* No spamming the board. has to be clarified.
I disagree. No one has ever been banned for unintentionally spamming the board and every intelligent human understands what it is. A warning or two is more then enough.

* No bumping your own threads. Bumping cannot be considered bumping if you're adding additional information.
That's not bumping and normal rational people know the difference.

* No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court. Public figures should be exempt from this - as it would be worthy of debate.
Slander is slander and I won't stand for it unless you can explain what it offers to a rational discussion.

* No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.
Threats are different then attacks on character. If it gets out of hand we're adults and can deal with it as such. Idiots and liars are idiots and liars. What's the big deal?

* No racial, gender or sexual orientation slurs.
We can split hairs over racial or ethnic but they're pretty much the same.

KISS.

A warning or two depending on the act.

Then a ban of a few days to calm down.

Then why bother dealing with that person ever again?

It's not that complicated. You never left, even after numerous threats to do so because in the end we've always moderated the hate away. If someone was acting in a reasonable manner we allowed them to stay. If someone was spreading hate and getting out of hand we banned them.

We're not here to baby sit. We're not here to police. We're here to let people speak their mind. If someone is interfering with that then they have to fucking go.

Yes, sometimes we have to keep the hate speech away.

Yes, sometimes we have to explain the difference between news and entertainers. Trust me, if some one was stupid enough to post 3 clips of Olbermann in a day they'd be banned after a warning too.

Common fucking sense plays better then detailed rules but it requires thinking and after all, we should be evolved above sheep.

Thank you. After 70 posts in this thread you're finally calm enough to stop hijacking and be the Smurf that I recommended as Moderator.

It's good to have you back.

[Moby]

I better get ready for another banning. LOL
He never left. He never had any intention too. He was upset.

Get over it and leave him alone for now.

[Hog Trash]

I better get ready for another banning. LOLThey can't ban you, you're gay you idiot.

You fall under the protection of political correctness.

Just play the gay card and holler discrimmination dumbass!

[Moby]

Hog,

I think you're nuts but I noticed on the first page of this thread that you're one of the voices of reason against at least three insane rants. But I don't give a fuck who's gay or not.

[mwillman]

I wish I was gay, men are cheaper dates.

But lets not worry about each others sexuality, I dont care if you like to sleep with sheep or not.

I will leave smurf alone as long as he leaves me alone. If he doesn't like something I have said then let me know but no warning bans is bullshit and he admitted he did it out of spite.

[doctordog]

I wish I was gay, men are cheaper dates.

But lets not worry about each others sexuality, I dont care if you like to sleep with sheep or not.

I will leave smurf alone as long as he leaves me alone. If he doesn't like something I have said then let me know but no warning bans is bullshit and he admitted he did it out of spite.:melodramatic:

Damn what a drama queen!:hi:

[mwillman]

Please wayers your input is like your IQ below average.

[Hog Trash]

I wish I was gay, men are cheaper dates.

But lets not worry about each others sexuality, I dont care if you like to sleep with sheep or not.

I will leave smurf alone as long as he leaves me alone. If he doesn't like something I have said then let me know but no warning bans is bullshit and he admitted he did it out of spite.My apologies....You must not have drank the water in Frisco.

[doctordog]

Please wayers your input is like your IQ below average.

Whatever you say drama queen!:lmao2:

"Smurf ban me for no reason" "he doesn't like me" piss and moan some more little willie!

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[mwillman]

I find it hilarious that you would try and turn the drama queen label on me when it was your buddies that had the giant hissy fit and all stormed out, like anyone cared.

[MintJulep]

Whatever you say drama queen!:lmao2:

"Smurf ban me for no reason" "he doesn't like me" piss and moan some more little willie!

516It's been Drama Queen Central around here lately.

[Smurf-Herder]

I've given your opinion months. I just don't believe that we need to make things complicated. You said it yourself that we seem to have a good balance here that doesn't exist elsewhere.

That's because a lot of moderation comes down to common sense. People should know how to act in public. When they don't, it should be explained to them. If they still can't, then they need to leave.

What's so complicated about that?

I disagree. No one has ever been banned for unintentionally spamming the board and every intelligent human understands what it is. A warning or two is more then enough.


That's not bumping and normal rational people know the difference.


Slander is slander and I won't stand for it unless you can explain what it offers to a rational discussion.


Threats are different then attacks on character. If it gets out of hand we're adults and can deal with it as such. Idiots and liars are idiots and liars. What's the big deal?


We can split hairs over racial or ethnic but they're pretty much the same.

KISS.

A warning or two depending on the act.

Then a ban of a few days to calm down.

Then why bother dealing with that person ever again?

It's not that complicated. You never left, even after numerous threats to do so because in the end we've always moderated the hate away. If someone was acting in a reasonable manner we allowed them to stay. If someone was spreading hate and getting out of hand we banned them.

We're not here to baby sit. We're not here to police. We're here to let people speak their mind. If someone is interfering with that then they have to fucking go.

Yes, sometimes we have to keep the hate speech away.

Yes, sometimes we have to explain the difference between news and entertainers. Trust me, if some one was stupid enough to post 3 clips of Olbermann in a day they'd be banned after a warning too.

Common fucking sense plays better then detailed rules but it requires thinking and after all, we should be evolved above sheep.

Thank you. After 70 posts in this thread you're finally calm enough to stop hijacking and be the Smurf that I recommended as Moderator.

It's good to have you back.

IF somebody is violating a rule, it has to be a written rule. And people have been banned for unintentionally violating a rule, because it wasn't in writing. That's the entire basis of our disagreement.

You have a PM from me. I hope you'll read it and respond before I get home from work today. My intention is to work with you, not for you.

[Moby]

IF somebody is violating a rule, it has to be a written rule. And people have been banned for unintentionally violating a rule, because it wasn't in writing. That's the entire basis of our disagreement.
I disagree with you on this.

We're supposed to be adults here. People with basic common sense know how to act in public. They know you don't threaten other people. They know that you don't accuse people of serious criminal acts. They know that you don't spam boards and they know that you don't spread lies.

The only things that need to be explained to adults should be the need to link back since many people may not understand that.

Spamming, threatening, racial slurs are just stupid rules to appease the childish. They all should have learned better in first grade. If they didn't then do we really care about their opinion?

Only once was someone banned without warning.

Everyone else I've banned had multiple warnings.

[Moby]

You have a PM from me. I hope you'll read it and respond before I get home from work today. My intention is to work with you, not for you.
I finally got a PM from you after many weeks of me trying to communicate with you. Let's work together but I totally disagree with your points on RG.

Radio Guy should NOT be treated differently because he's a conservative. I don't play that and you shouldn't either! Besides, he's not a conservative any way.

With his history on this board, he was very lucky that he was given any warnings at all. The only reason I offered him two was out of courtesy to you and he fucked your trust.

Look at he drama that was created.

[Smurf-Herder]

I finally got a PM from you after many weeks of me trying to communicate with you. Let's work together but I totally disagree with your points on RG.

Radio Guy should NOT be treated differently because he's a conservative. I don't play that and you shouldn't either! Besides, he's not a conservative any way.


With his history on this board, he was very lucky that he was given any warnings at all. The only reason I offered him two was out of courtesy to you and he fucked your trust.

Look at he drama that was created.

Don't give me shit about discussing things in PMs then.

You only changed RadioGuys ban to permanent after I complained about it. And his past history was supposed to be kept out of piling on him.

He said he only got one and complied, concerning the bumping.

No, you are the one who fucked my trust.

[Smurf-Herder]

I disagree with you on this.

We're supposed to be adults here. People with basic common sense know how to act in public. They know you don't threaten other people. They know that you don't accuse people of serious criminal acts. They know that you don't spam boards and they know that you don't spread lies.

The only things that need to be explained to adults should be the need to link back since many people may not understand that.

Spamming, threatening, racial slurs are just stupid rules to appease the childish. They all should have learned better in first grade. If they didn't then do we really care about their opinion?

Only once was someone banned without warning.

Everyone else I've banned had multiple warnings.

So I can ban liberals for speading lies?

Do you really wanna go there?

Also, we're allowed to have flame wars on the board now?

There's nothing about personal attacks like when Bill and Linkster were mods; only threats, concerning members.

[MintJulep]

There's nothing about personal attacks like when Bill and Linkster were mods; only threats, concerning members.Well why not keep it that way? We're adults here. I'm not thin-skinned and I don't think many here are.

A personal attack could be classified as calling someone an asshole. Do you really want to limit speech to that degree?

[Smurf-Herder]

Well why not keep it that way? We're adults here. I'm not thin-skinned and I don't think many here are.

A personal attack could be classified as calling someone an asshole. Do you really want to limit speech to that degree?

Go for it.

And use all the ethnic slurs you like. SirMoby says they're okay. :thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

Well why not keep it that way? We're adults here. I'm not thin-skinned and I don't think many here are.

A personal attack could be classified as calling someone an asshole. Do you really want to limit speech to that degree?

No, I used to put that under flaming each other back and forth, after too many posts.

[MintJulep]

Go for it.

And use all the ethnic slurs you like. SirMoby says they're okay. :thumbsup:Whoa, my post was not about ethnic slurs as that is already covered in the rules. You mentioned "personal attacks" which, as I noted, could be applicable if someone called another person an asshole.

The rules are posted. Maybe we should just go with the flow and see what happens?

[Bill Cosby]

My apologies....You must not have drank the water in Frisco.

Actually the water there is very good. I comes from Yosemite.. http://www.matthewweathers.com/year2005/yosemite/IMG_3348_yosemite_falls.jpg

[Smurf-Herder]

Whoa, my post was not about ethnic slurs as that is already covered in the rules. You mentioned "personal attacks" which, as I noted, could be applicable if someone called another person an asshole.

The rules are posted. Maybe we should just go with the flow and see what happens?

I know what will happen. I'll come in here in the next few days and find somebody new banned, for something not in the rules - like the Professor was. A week for Lying, because he listed things about Obama that had been in multiple sources.

BTW, spreading lies can include repeating what a conservative says, including the source .... although I don't think it's in the rules, even now.

[Moby]

Go for it.

And use all the ethnic slurs you like. SirMoby says they're okay. :thumbsup:
Why did you ask me to stop calling you a Drama Queen if that's all you're going to be?


You had plenty of time to offer input into the rules. Other people seem to get them. Get over it.

[Moby]

He said he only got one and complied, concerning the bumping.
I'm sure that you know how to use the search function and can easily see that your conservative friend that you think should be treated differently because he is a conservative is lying to you.

Besides, with his history of bumping threads why should he even get 1 warning? What difference does it make 1, 2 or 100?

As far as I know he is the only person that has tried to shut this board down through both spamming and bumping so many threads that no one else could appear on the front page.

Now would you please quit being a Drama Queen? I'm asking nicely.

You can quit with the, "I want to work with you routine." Actions speak louder then words.

[Hog Trash]

Go for it.

And use all the ethnic slurs you like. SirMoby says they're okay. :thumbsup:Does that mean we can now say "nigger"? :yay:

After all, black folks use the "nigger" word more than anybody!

How about "fag", even though I never hear homos use the word "fag"?

[mwillman]

Hog why is using racial and sexual slurs so important to you?

I mean really can't you spread your hate without using them.

[ROdger Right]

As long as they continue to call themselves african Americans, I say we just call them descendent of slaves. That has a nicve ring to it right?
Fag is used in so many ways that while it may hurt a fags feelings it doesn't mean that was the purpose.

[Smurf-Herder]

Does that mean we can now say "nigger"? :yay:

After all, black folks use the "nigger" word more than anybody!

How about "fag", even though I never hear homos use the word "fag"?

Hog, you're breaking everybody's rules; whether SM's or mine.

Cut the shit.

[mwillman]

You are so forgiving of your fellow nutjobs.
It Really shows you are loyal to your ideology.

[doctordog]

You are so forgiving of your fellow nutjobs.
It Really shows you are loyal to your ideology.

whine whine whine

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[Smurf-Herder]

You are so forgiving of your fellow nutjobs.
It Really shows you are loyal to your ideology.

We need a rule against professional trolls. :D

[mwillman]

I'm not whining I'm pointing out that he is loyal to his programming.

Isn't that something you nut jobs admire.

[mwillman]

We need a rule against professional trolls. :D


Yes then you would be banned for the fuck tard you are.

As long as you guys keep insulting me I am going to return the favor.

I understand how the details of politics confuses you but this is a political forum after all.

[Smurf-Herder]

Yes then you would be banned for the fuck tard you are.

As long as you guys keep insulting me I am going to return the favor.

I understand how the details of politics confuses you but this is a political forum after all.

You get insulted because you continually insult others.

I bet if I went and reviewed all your posts since you've been here, nearly all of them would be nothing but insults.

[Hog Trash]

You are so forgiving of your fellow nutjobs.
It Really shows you are loyal to your ideology.I think I might have a good case for my defense if Smurf made an issue of my "racist" post considering I was replying to this post by him.Go for it.

And use all the ethnic slurs you like. SirMoby says they're okay. :thumbsup:Does that mean we can now say "nigger"? :yay:

After all, black folks use the "nigger" word more than anybody!

How about "fag", even though I never hear homos use the word "fag"?

[Smurf-Herder]

I think I might have a good case for my defense if Smurf made an issue of my "racist" post considering I was replying to this post by him.

You just used that as an excuse to use those words.

[Hog Trash]

Hog, you're breaking everybody's rules; whether SM's or mine.

Cut the shit.So in other words only ethnic slurs are permited?

Words like redneck, hillbilly, coonass etc etc.

[mwillman]

You get insulted because you continually insult others.

I bet if I went and reviewed all your posts since you've been here, nearly all of them would be nothing but insults.


Thats really a chicken or egg argument but again your just full of shit and you will always be full of shit becuase you have made up your mind on just about everything and since most of what you think is shit, it proves the point that you are full of shit.

I beat if you actually read my posts over the last 2 years and the ones before and after it from your clan of cave bears you would find that my insults have built up over time becuase of the bullshit and childish rants of you right wing fanatics.

I try to start most threads focusing on the topic but since so many of the topics are right wing lies and misinformation it ends up with you wack jobs lossing your tempers becuase the truth always seems to disprove most of your ideological nonsense.

[doctordog]

Thats really a chicken or egg argument but again your just full of shit and you will always be full of shit becuase you have made up your mind on just about everything and since most of what you think is shit, it proves the point that you are full of shit.:lmao2:

I beat if you actually read my posts over the last 2 years and the ones before and after it from your clan of cave bears you would find that my insults have built up over time becuase of the bullshit and childish rants of you right wing fanatics.

I try to start most threads focusing on the topic but since so many of the topics are right wing lies and misinformation it ends up with you wack jobs lossing your tempers becuase the truth always seems to disprove most of your ideological nonsense.

Damn WILLY! it is evident from your post above that you have a lot of shit between your ears!:lmao2:

As far as your admission in the 2nd paragraph, we already knew that or at least suspected.:lmao2:

[Smurf-Herder]

So in other words only ethnic slurs are permited?

Words like redneck, hillbilly, coonass etc etc.

That's the mystery.

Lady Liberty thinks they may be considered included under race. And Moby thinks "ethnic" is too many words for the members to handle. :lmao2:

I don't fucking care anymore .................................................. .......... :banghead:

[Hog Trash]

That's the mystery.

Lady Liberty thinks they may be considered included under race. And Moby thinks "ethnic" is too many words for the members to handle. :lmao2:

I don't fucking care anymore .................................................. .......... :banghead:Yes you do care....You're not fooling anyone Smurf.

I know you care because you yelled at me and hurt my feelings. :(

[Smurf-Herder]

Yes you do care....You're not fooling anyone Smurf.

I know you care because you yelled at me and hurt my feelings. :(

I didn't yell at you. I whispered sweetly into your ear. :D

You just can't hear me online - which I soon won't be. There must be something good on TV tonight.

So have fun, you few. :hi:

[Moby]

That's the mystery.

Lady Liberty thinks they may be considered included under race. And Moby thinks "ethnic" is too many words for the members to handle. :lmao2:

I don't fucking care anymore .................................................. .......... :banghead:
Sure you do. That's why you keep mentioning it.

[Moby]

We need a rule against professional trolls. :D
No. We just need to use common sense and toss them out.

[Smurf-Herder]

No. We just need to use common sense and toss them out.

Frankly, I don't know the definition of common sense in this place anymore.

If I do anything against a liberal, you'll jump right in with them now and accuse me of being partisan.

What's the point?

[Bill Cosby]

No. We just need to use common sense and toss them out.

I am going to go through every page so I know the feelings & points but I admit I am not a big rules guy.......... @ another board I am @ we had some similar issues & I stated the same... "Rules, like laws are subject to interpretation"...

I have stated & stressed the things that bothered me- essentially racial slurs & to a lesser extent the gender bashing...

Not sure what you are referring to toss out but I think "common sense" is a more practical way to go as opposed to an endless list of banned words..... There are a few IMO we should not use & I think everyone knows what they are...

You likely can't use them @ work or in the grocery store, or yell out @ a wedding of two hundred ppl of various backgrounds. If anyone is not sure pls PM me & I would be happy go over it.......

I shall return.......... :lmao2:

[Bill Cosby]

This is what I posted on the other site relating to some new rules there.. As you can see some of the issues are different but I think the solution is the same- Respect for each other... Common courtesy is common sense...:thumbsup:

Example the term redneck.... That does not bother me nor do I see any racial implication... I personally know several ppl of different races I would term as such... But if some of our "friends" here are offended by it IMO not using it is not much to ask..........:thumbsup:

The post:


Well I wasn't gonna say anything but I was asked... So eventhough I am reluctant to do so I am gonna try to be as honest as I can & hopefully no harm is done or anyone offended ...

IMO the rules are fine..... The old ones were fine as will the next round of new ones be....... Rules, like laws are left up to interpretation..

I am not going to drop names but the list is long........ If his or her argument is to weak to stand then let it fall on it's own merit not under the boot of moderation..... THNX CHRIS

Does he/she get the ass sometimes..???? Sure..... Who here has not..??? Let him or her cast the first stone........

I humbly suggest if anyone cannot dazzle them w/ brilliance or baffle them w/ bullshit then use the ignore feature & don't go crying foul to the mods & thus narrow the scope of the debate that some of us come here explicitly to engage in........

Some don't wanna get their pretty hands dirty so they go crying about it. This is the internet not the PTA.. Some don't wish to hear contrary opinions or be found to have "their logic" lacking.. I for one seek it, I thrive on it, & if not here then elsewhere..... (iron sharpens iron)

The lack of conservative opinion speaks for itself........ If ya'll want a circle jerk that is fine w/ me & I will stop by when I am in the mood.........

Eventhough I may not agree I try to respect the opinions of others w/ differing views... Also they serve, IMO anywayZ a very vital role here....... Running them off degrades my/our experience so I/we have a vested interest not only in making our own experience joyous but theirs as well........

I also respect their willingness to stick to their guns even when everyone is gangbanging them........ I have been there & believe me it is not always easy....

Some of ya'll could spend a min or two thinking how you would react..... When twenty ppl poke you & you respond in kind only to be silenced............

Keep in mind here the perspective. You have suffered 20 provocations (w/in the rules) if you respond in kind to even a quarter of them, that can be deemed inappropriate.. When I see that start happening I am outta there as I would not want to have even the appearance of participating in any gangbanging........

Many of the folks I know that were banned are not interested in returning. Rule changes are not going to change that.. IMO some of those banning were inappropriate & perhaps arbitrary & for the exact reasons I mentioned..

Well I imagine I pissed off about everybody. If I missed anyone pls forgive me & PM if you like & I will be happy to fill any requests...

I now await my fair share of abuse....

[Bill Cosby]

For now ......... and because I got a PM from Tommy. I'm presently in a state of flux.

It's hard to find a board that has a good mix of conservatives and liberals. Most of the other boards are either all left-wing or all right-wing. Kinda boring.

I agree... There are lots of other boards & usually one side or the other is dominating the other. Not the case here & I like that....... It is unique in that sense & I hope we can continue to have lively debates......:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

Well why not keep it that way? We're adults here. I'm not thin-skinned and I don't think many here are.

A personal attack could be classified as calling someone an asshole. Do you really want to limit speech to that degree?

I agree & I am glad you are contributing as I think you & wayers bring lots of valuable experience to the table that needs to be heard..

:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

I've given your opinion months. I just don't believe that we need to make things complicated. You said it yourself that we seem to have a good balance here that doesn't exist elsewhere.

That's because a lot of moderation comes down to common sense. People should know how to act in public. When they don't, it should be explained to them. If they still can't, then they need to leave.

What's so complicated about that?

I disagree. No one has ever been banned for unintentionally spamming the board and every intelligent human understands what it is. A warning or two is more then enough.


That's not bumping and normal rational people know the difference.


Slander is slander and I won't stand for it unless you can explain what it offers to a rational discussion.


Threats are different then attacks on character. If it gets out of hand we're adults and can deal with it as such. Idiots and liars are idiots and liars. What's the big deal?


We can split hairs over racial or ethnic but they're pretty much the same.

KISS.

A warning or two depending on the act.

Then a ban of a few days to calm down.

Then why bother dealing with that person ever again?

It's not that complicated. You never left, even after numerous threats to do so because in the end we've always moderated the hate away. If someone was acting in a reasonable manner we allowed them to stay. If someone was spreading hate and getting out of hand we banned them.

We're not here to baby sit. We're not here to police. We're here to let people speak their mind. If someone is interfering with that then they have to fucking go.

Yes, sometimes we have to keep the hate speech away.

Yes, sometimes we have to explain the difference between news and entertainers. Trust me, if some one was stupid enough to post 3 clips of Olbermann in a day they'd be banned after a warning too.

Common fucking sense plays better then detailed rules but it requires thinking and after all, we should be evolved above sheep.

Thank you. After 70 posts in this thread you're finally calm enough to stop hijacking and be the Smurf that I recommended as Moderator.

It's good to have you back.

Having read your definitions of common sense & the use of words "as you would in public" I agree.......

No one here is that stupid that they would not know what that means... After a warning any doubt would be removed... If they continue to offend the public (other members) they are making a conscious decision & thus accepting the repercussions..

[Bill Cosby]

"Fight Club." There's no reason to demand the right to continually insult people. The only people that feel that need lack the ability to make a good case for their side of a debate. There's more to being an adult than just saying naughty words.

Well said............ :thumbsup:

I have read comments about this being a war & the need to annihilate & all that.. Simply not the case as you pointed out very well........ I hope that ppl that feel this way can eventually out grow a need for that...

[Bill Cosby]

Isn't it odd that this rule never came up in all those years of daily accussations of Bush being a criminal???...Go figure!

Only now that Obama is in office does it come about.....What a coincidence?

Since you have me on ignore I know you are not going to peek & read it...:lmao2:

So I am replying to the board..... :thumbsup:

I agree w/ your statement- there should be only one standard applied to everybodies boy or girl............ Saying stuff about the "bad ppl" is funny & justified but when they start saying it about "your guy" those same cruel comments sound a lot different........

I had not given that much thought till a couple months ago when LL was laying out her take on this very issue......... If I recall correctly someone was giving her a hard time about bashing Obama........ Her response was something to the effect if it was good enough for bush it was good enough for Obama..........

I knew she was right & I thought about some bush bashing I had done....

@ some of the boards we were @ ppl talked about lynching him rummy & dick, torturing them & just about anything else you could think of......... & then some...

If it is wrong to say all that about Obama it was wrong of us to say all that about bush........ I have taken some heat for believing & saying that. Oh well!!! lol

[mwillman]

Always with the attempts to find moral equivalence.

Bush was a criminal and President Obama is not.
Cheney was a Criminal, Biden is not.

President Obama did not lie us into a very expensive unnecessary war.
President Obama did not destroy the economy not yet at least.
Vice President Biden did not out a CIA agent.
Vice President Biden did not use the CIA to propagate lies and misinformation.

No there is no moral equivalence.

Its like saying we are justified in insulting Nelson Madella becuase he was elected president after a bunch of white racists.

[Bill Cosby]

Always with the attempts to find moral equivalence.

Bush was a criminal and President Obama is not.
Cheney was a Criminal, Biden is not.

President Obama did not lie us into a very expensive unnecessary war.
President Obama did not destroy the economy not yet at least.
Vice President Biden did not out a CIA agent.
Vice President Biden did not use the CIA to propagate lies and misinformation.

No there is no moral equivalence.

Its like saying we are justified in insulting Nelson Madella becuase he was elected president after a bunch of white racists.

& there yea have it.. Exactly the response I got when I said it the first time......

Lets be honest here...

So far those men have been convicted of what???

So far those men have been arrested for what??

So far those men have been questioned about what???

I agree w/ your opinion. But it is just our opinions..........

Others are allowed to have their opinions to........ Right???

[mwillman]

The difference is there are investigations going on with Bush and Cheney and the rest and there are no investigations going on about 99% of the crap that is getting thrown at President Obama.

The right seems to think that if they throw every possible thing they can think of at the President, something will stick but so far its just outrageous crap.

If we are really talking a tit for tat thing then lets not forget President Clinton who was the most investigated and harassed president in history.

I really think that is when the partisanship really started to break this nation into two camps and then getting Bush jr just took it to a whole new level and now the divide is so wide I see no way to reconcile the two sides.

I am just glad that we are no longer under the thumb of right.

[Frankg]

Always with the attempts to find moral equivalence.

Bush was a criminal and President Obama is not.
Cheney was a Criminal, Biden is not.

President Obama did not lie us into a very expensive unnecessary war.
President Obama did not destroy the economy not yet at least.
Vice President Biden did not out a CIA agent.
Vice President Biden did not use the CIA to propagate lies and misinformation.

No there is no moral equivalence.

Its like saying we are justified in insulting Nelson Madella becuase he was elected president after a bunch of white racists.

Attention Sir Moby


I have no axe to grind against against mwilliam but these are clearly false accusations and mwilliam should be banned just like I when I was whenI posted the article that stated Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopeckne.

[Bill Cosby]

The difference is there are investigations going on with Bush and Cheney and the rest and there are no investigations going on about 99% of the crap that is getting thrown at President Obama.

The right seems to think that if they throw every possible thing they can think of at the President, something will stick but so far its just outrageous crap.

If we are really talking a tit for tat thing then lets not forget President Clinton who was the most investigated and harassed president in history.

I really think that is when the partisanship really started to break this nation into two camps and then getting Bush jr just took it to a whole new level and now the divide is so wide I see no way to reconcile the two sides.

I am just glad that we are no longer under the thumb of right.

The difference is there are investigations going on with Bush and Cheney and the rest and there are no investigations going on about 99% of the crap that is getting thrown at President Obama.

Well I gotta say I think it is just opinion...... If they start investigating our guy Obama then it will be ok for them to say those things??? :dunno:

The right seems to think that if they throw every possible thing they can think of at the President, something will stick but so far its just outrageous crap.

I know lots of dems that did exactly the same....... I liked it when they did it to bush & I hate it when they do it to Obama....... I see a double standard..:dunno:

partisanship really started to break this nation into two camps

The nation has never been together IMO.... We have always been divided...

Also IMHO we are better off w/ them @ each others throats.. I would prefer they cooperate as little as possible........(Pelosi rubber stamped the two wars if you recall--....)

Not only would the thieves watch & rat on the thieves they would perhaps hinder a lot of stupid shit from getting done.......

[Frankg]

Bill Cosby ,

You are a moderater, mwilliam made a false accusation .

You know it is against the rules , do your job.

[mwillman]

Bill Cosby ,

You are a moderater, mwilliam made a false accusation .

You know it is against the rules , do your job.

First off who is mwilliam I have never seen him here.

Seconldly I am getting really sick of seeing my name misspelled or not in so many other peoples fucking posts.

You FrankG have been one of the most full of shit posters in the history of the internet posting more misinformation and lies then any other poster other then maybe Radioguy.

If you want I can pull of a few of the many false accusations you have made.

[Frankg]

First off who is mwilliam I have never seen him here.

Seconldly I am getting really sick of seeing my name misspelled or not in so many other peoples fucking posts.

You FrankG have been one of the most full of shit posters in the history of the internet posting more misinformation and lies then any other poster other then maybe Radioguy.

If you want I can pull of a few of the many false accusations you have made.


WILLMAN .....got it , sorry about that, I just got my GED last month but it would be nice if you could change your name to make easier on the rest of us .


You FrankG have been one of the most full of shit posters in the history of the internet posting more misinformation and lies then any other poster other then maybe Radioguy.

mwilliam , I just post facts . Just because they happen to disprove your daily propaganda doesn't mean I'm full of shit. You are not nice .


If you want I can pull of a few of the many false accusations you have made.

Bring it on.

[mwillman]

here is one

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=10100&page=15
obama is just a cheap suit people, and is hell bent on the destruction of the United States, if we dont' vote out his power hungry socialist cronies next year than this economic crisis will get much worse.

This full of ignorant false accusations.

Actually as I went through your posts I felt like I was walking through the hall of fame for Fox news bullshit.

You are not the rudest person on the forum but you are the most prolific propagandist selling lies and misinformation daily. All anyone needs to do is click on your name and look at your posts, it reads like a Rush Limbaugh script.

[ROdger Right]

How are they false if we havent seen the time when its supposed to happen come to pass mwillman?

As a third party id say try again.

[mwillman]

Since it hasn't happened its a false accusation.

Accusing someone of something that hasn't even happened yet is a false accusation.

You can make shit up all day and say they are going to do it but its not real.

If thats the level of political discourse you respect that says more about you then it does about politics.

[Betty Blowtorch]

Attention Sir Moby

I have no axe to grind against against mwilliam but these
are clearly false accusations and mwilliam should be banned
just like I when I was when I posted the article that stated
Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopeckne.
Two wrongs don't make a right, Frankie.

The fact that you were wrongfully banned by King Moby
doesn't give you valid grounds for demanding that mwillman
should be wrongfully banned as well.

King Moby, Bill and Smurf perpetrated some questionable
bannings which have caused the victims of those bannings
(like you) to call for other members to be banned, and we
end up with a vicious cycle of bannings which beget more
bannings which beget more bannings.

That's why I started the thread entitled "Banning isn't the
solution, it's the problem." I was calling for a moratorium
on this epidemic of questionable bannings.

King Moby's rule that no criminal accusation can be made
against a public figure unless it is supported by a criminal
prosecution in a US court is a stupid and unnecessary rule,
but I think Smurf called him on it, and the rule has been
eliminated (or certainly should be.)

I think we also need a moratorium on whining to the mods,
demanding that other members be banned.

[Frankg]

Originally posted by mwillman
here is one

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=10100&page=15

Quote:
obama is just a cheap suit people, and is hell bent on the destruction of the United States, if we dont' vote out his power hungry socialist cronies next year than this economic crisis will get much worse.

This full of ignorant false accusations.

Actually as I went through your posts I felt like I was walking through the hall of fame for Fox news bullshit.

You are not the rudest person on the forum but you are the most prolific propagandist selling lies and misinformation daily. All anyone needs to do is click on your name and look at your posts, it reads like a Rush Limbaugh script.


Barack Hussein Obama was endorsed , in 1996 by the DSA , the Democratic Socialist Party of America .

Since he has become president this country is losing jobs at a rate of 16000 per month.

I thought his stimulus plan was to create jobs mwillman , not lose them.

Where are these jobs ?

Do you honestly believe that obama cares about the US when he plays golf once a week and has cocktail parties every wednsday at the white house ?

In the meantime we are losing 16000 jobs per month and it well past the time for blaming George W Bush.

If anything President George W Bush saw this crisis coming after Enron and tried to put in place more oversights on investors but it was not enough.

Obama cares more about getting involved some in the problems his personal friends like Henry Lewis Gates .

Like I said , where are all the jobs ?

[mwillman]

Bush and McCain were endorsed by the KKK does that make you all KKK members?

Can you show me how many jobs would have been lost if we hadn't passed the stimulus bill, no you can't. So your assertion is not based on facts but your twisting of the facts.

Just about every president has played golf and gone to parties I dont recall you complaining when Bush took 3 of his 8 years off.

Bush let Enron write our national energy policy.

Really please just one time in your life post more then just your half truths and false premises.

[Frankg]

Two wrongs don't make a right, Frankie.

The fact that you were wrongfully banned by King Moby
doesn't give you valid grounds for demanding that mwillman
should be wrongfully banned as well.

King Moby, Bill and Smurf perpetrated some questionable
bannings which have caused the victims of those bannings
(like you) to call for other members to be banned, and we
end up with a vicious cycle of bannings which beget more
bannings which beget more bannings.

That's why I started the thread entitled "Banning isn't the
solution, it's the problem." I was calling for a moratorium
on this epidemic of questionable bannings.

King Moby's rule that no criminal accusation can be made
against a public figure unless it is supported by a criminal
prosecution in a US court is a stupid and unnecessary rule,
but I think Smurf called him on it, and the rule has been
eliminated (or certainly should be.)

I think we also need a moratorium on whining to the mods,
demanding that other members be banned.

It is was it is BB, everyone has to play by the rules .

No on is special.

[mwillman]

Again the problem is not the rules its there interpretation and the fact that you are still around shows they are fairly lenient when it comes to posting half truths and misinformation.

[Betty Blowtorch]

It is was it is BB, everyone has to play by the rules .

No on is special.
Frankie Frankie Frankie,

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1279/avatarworking3.gif

Clearly you have a head...





































made of lead.

[Frankg]

Again the problem is not the rules its there interpretation and the fact that you are still around shows they are fairly lenient when it comes to posting half truths and misinformation.

A criminal is someone who has been CONVICTED of a crime .

There has been no probe , no investigation and no trial yet you accuse President George W Bush of being a criminal .

I believe you are the fountain of misinformation.

You should be banned for violating the rules of this forum.


...am I right SirMoby ?

[mwillman]

I love the way all the right wingers here are pushing for me to be baned.

I love that I have stuck in your craws.

I walk with pride when ever evil people fear me enough to try and get rid of me.

It rarely works but keep it up guys it just means I am a threat to you.

[Frankg]

Frankie Frankie Frankie,

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1279/avatarworking3.gif

Clearly you have a head...





































made of lead.

Whatever BB, if I have to play by rules than so does everyone else , right ?

Don't blame me , I didn't make the rules.

[doctordog]

I love the way all the right wingers here are pushing for me to be banded.

I love that I have stuck in your craws.

I walk with pride when ever evil people fear me enough to try and get rid of me.

It rarely works but keep it up guys it just means I am a threat to you.

I would compare you to diarhea

[mwillman]

And I would compare you to your avatar but with less charisma.

[doctordog]

And I would compare you to your avatar but with less charisma.

My avatar is deicated to your President, the ears are a spot on match.

[mwillman]

Yes its just one more example of your rampant racism.

Wayer you really need to go hunt some posum so you can feed your family and stop using power on the internet that could be used to run your outhouse.

I mean all your doing is putting shit into both anyways.

[doctordog]

Yes its just one more example of your rampant racism.

Wayer you really need to go hunt some posum so you can feed your family and stop using power on the internet that could be used to run your outhouse..

Why is it racist, can you come up with anything besides "that is racist"?

Bush was compared to a chimp, that must have been racist too?

Come up with some new material, your same recorded messages are getting old.

[mwillman]

Wayer I know that you are a racist.

I only give my smoking gun comments to those that have earned them and you have.

P.S. is a bank thief not a criminal even if he hasn't been caught?
Bush is a criminal he has just not be prosecuted.

[doctordog]

Wayer I know that you are a racist.

I only give my smoking gun comments to those that have earned them and you have.

P.S. is a bank thief not a criminal even if he hasn't been caught?
Bush is a criminal he has just not be prosecuted.

Sir MOby ban this sonofabitch as this is twice he has said Bush is a criminal.

[Betty Blowtorch]

A criminal is someone who has been CONVICTED of a crime.
Horseshit.

A criminal is someone who has committed a crime,
regardless of whether they have been prosecuted
or convicted.

Bush committed one of the most egregious crimes under
international law when he waged a war of aggression
against a sovereign nation (Iraq) that didn't attack us
first.

It's exactly the same as when Hitler invaded Poland.
It's a war crime. Bush and Cheney are war criminals,
regardless of whether they are prosecuted for it.

It's also clear that the Bush-Cheney gang authorized
the use of torture, which is also a war crime.

Do you want to have me banned too, Frankie?
Or do you want to stop being a dumb tool
and admit the truth?

[mwillman]

After all you have said about President Obama, really.

Man you really are a pathetic hypocrite.

[doctordog]

After all you have said about President Obama, really.

Man you really are a pathetic hypocrite.

I never said he was a criminal. He is stupid half wit, but that is not criminal.

527

[mwillman]

You are sad sad excuse for a life form.

[doctordog]

You are sad sad excuse for a life form.

Thanks, that means a lot coming from the town CRYER!

[Betty Blowtorch]

Wayer you really need to go hunt some possum
so you can feed your family and stop using power
on the internet that could be used to run your outhouse.

I mean all your doing is putting shit into both anyways.
Now that was a good one. http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7784/laughingyellowsmiley.gif

[doctordog]

Now that was a good one. http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7784/laughingyellowsmiley.gif


Ibex go back a to Eric, he loves your special touch.

[Betty Blowtorch]

Ibex go back a to Eric, he loves your special touch.
Okay, shithead, provide some links to this Ibex character
so we can all see why you seem to think I'm him (or her.)

No stupid comments are needed, just provide the links.
Back up your false accusation, or shut the fuck up.

Faggot.

[Smurf-Herder]

Okay, shithead, provide some links to this Ibex character
so we can all see why you seem to think I'm him (or her.)

No stupid comments are needed, just provide the links.
Back up your false accusation, or shut the fuck up.

Faggot.

Betty, I'm giving you a warning on this for the first offense. No sexual orientation slurs.

[environMENTAL_guy]

Betty, I'm giving you a warning on this for the first offense. No sexual orientation slurs.


The funny thing is the Ibex person they are talking about is gay.

[Smurf-Herder]

Ibex go back a to Eric, he loves your special touch.

Wayers, please don't post shit like that (the smiley I deleted). It's not exactly a slur by the rules - but has the same connotation. That's a nice way of saying, this is a warning.

[Smurf-Herder]

The funny thing is the Ibex person they are talking about is gay.

Yeah, I got the gist of it.

[Betty Blowtorch]

Betty, I'm giving you a warning on this for the first offense.
No sexual orientation slurs.
Thank you for the warning. That was decent of you.

But you mishandled this situation. You shouldn't have
spoken to me first or disciplined me first. My use of a
sexual orientation slur was clearly in self-defense after
Wayers used a very graphic sexual orientation slur
against me first.

You go after the guy who started the fight, not the guy
who defended himself.



Wayers, please don't post shit like that (the smiley I deleted).
It's not exactly a slur by the rules - but has the same
connotation. That's a nice way of saying, this is a warning.
How very polite you are to one of your own.

Wayers was clearly the instigator. He posted a visually
graphic animated picture of a smiley giving a blowjob to
an erect penis and a pair of testicles. And the smiley
was obviously supposed to represent me.

And you have the fucking audacity to say it's not exactly
a slur by the rules?

Are you stupid? Do you have a vital component missing
from your brain?

Or are you just biased in favor of a fellow wingnut?

[Smurf-Herder]

Thank you for the warning. That was decent of you.

But you mishandled this situation. You shouldn't have
spoken to me first or disciplined me first. My use of a
sexual orientation slur was clearly in self-defense after
Wayers used a very graphic sexual orientation slur
against me first.

You go after the guy who started the fight, not the guy
who defended himself.


How very polite you are to one of your own.

Wayers was clearly the instigator. He posted a visually
graphic animated picture of a smiley giving a blowjob to
an erect penis and a pair of testicles. And the smiley
was obviously supposed to represent me.

And you have the fucking audacity to say it's not exactly
a slur by the rules?

Are you stupid? Do you have a vital component missing
from your brain?

Or are you just biased in favor of a fellow wingnut?

Hey, I warned both of you. Deal with it.

I'm the one who initially ammended the original rules to include sexual orientation, back in April.

[Betty Blowtorch]

Isn't it ironic?

Senior Chief got away with literally hundreds of
sexual orientation slurs (against members who
aren't even gay, but only liberal) until you finally
gave him a couple of 24-hour slaps on the wrist.

And yet when I made ONE sexual orientation slur,
you were all over me within five minutes.

Hmmmmm...

It's almost like you were lying in wait. Looking for
an infraction you could jump on.

[Smurf-Herder]

Isn't it ironic?

Senior Chief got away with literally hundreds of
sexual orientation slurs (against members who
aren't even gay, but only liberal) until you finally
gave him a couple of 24-hour slaps on the wrist.

And yet when I made ONE sexual orientation slur,
you were all over me within five minutes.

Hmmmmm...

It's almost like you were lying in wait. Looking for
an infraction you could jump on.

C'mon. I just happen to be on the board at the same time. I'm not always online. And I only gave you a warning.

[Betty Blowtorch]

And I only gave you a warning.
And I thank you for the warning.

But did you happen to notice that we had a lively
discussion going with several members participating
and enjoying themselves?

Until YOU jumped in, that is.

Now it appears that everyone has fled the thread.
Way to go, Homer.

[Frankg]

You called President George W Bush a criminal mwillman .

That sir is a totally false accusation.

I say that obama wants to break up the United States of America .

He was annointed into politics by the Democratic Socialiast Party of America, which why I believe he out to destroy this country .

[doctordog]

Isn't it ironic?

Senior Chief got away with literally hundreds of
sexual orientation slurs (against members who
aren't even gay, but only liberal) until you finally
gave him a couple of 24-hour slaps on the wrist.

And yet when I made ONE sexual orientation slur,
you were all over me within five minutes.

Hmmmmm...

It's almost like you were lying in wait. Looking for
an infraction you could jump on.

mwillman has a new crying partner

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[mwillman]

You called President George W Bush a criminal mwillman .

That sir is a totally false accusation.

I say that obama wants to break up the United States of America .

He was annointed into politics by the Democratic Socialiast Party of America, which why I believe he out to destroy this country .

No its not a false accusation.

Bush jr and Cheney were and are criminals they just haven't been prosecuted for it, Yet!

Bush was anointed by the KKK tha'ts how I first knew he would be a criminal.

[mwillman]

mwillman has a new crying partner

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Hey troll, I guess you caught your possum but didn't power your outhouse.

Which explains why you're still full of shit.

[doctordog]

No its not a false accusation.

Bush jr and Cheney were and are criminals they just haven't been prosecuted for it, Yet!

Bush was anointed by the KKK tha'ts how I first knew he would be a criminal.

SO then Obama is a criminal as well, he just hasn't been prosecuted for it yet, ahhhhh.:disbelief:

[mwillman]

SO then Obama is a criminal as well, he just hasn't been prosecuted for it yet, ahhhhh.:disbelief:

No President Obama hasn't broken national and international law like Bush and Cheney did.

[doctordog]

No President Obama hasn't broken national and international law like Bush and Cheney did.

Bush and Cheney did nothing without Congress, so Hillary, Biden, Obama, and Pelosi,who were all in Congress go down as well. Choke on it mwillman!:thumbsup:

[mwillman]

Wrong, one of the crimes they committed was misinforming Congress.

[doctordog]

Wrong, one of the crimes they committed was misinforming Congress.

Wrong again, it is Congress's job to find the truth, it was there and they ignored it misrepresenting the American public. It is all or nothing here, dumbass.

[mwillman]

Wrong again, it is Congress's job to find the truth, it was there and they ignored it misrepresenting the American public. It is all or nothing here, dumbass.

Are you kidding me. And how are they supposed to get the truth when the people that are supposed to be giving to them are not.

No it will take some time but the criminals will pay for their crimes you just wait and see.

[doctordog]

Are you kidding me. And how are they supposed to get the truth when the people that are supposed to be giving to them are not.

No it will take some time but the criminals will pay for their crimes you just wait and see.

you hide and watch, we need to focus on the one that is fucking everything up now:thumbsup:

[Frankg]

No its not a false accusation.

Bush jr and Cheney were and are criminals they just haven't been prosecuted for it, Yet!

Bush was anointed by the KKK tha'ts how I first knew he would be a criminal.

So you believe someone is guilty until proven innocent ? , also there is that minor obstacle called "proof" which you people never seemed to have come with yet.

[Bill Cosby]

So you believe someone is guilty until proven innocent ? , also there is that minor obstacle called "proof" which you people never seemed to have come with yet.

Yep...........:thumbsup: Not a minor detail in a "Nation of laws"...

[mwillman]

So you believe someone is guilty until proven innocent ? , also there is that minor obstacle called "proof" which you people never seemed to have come with yet.

No I didnt say Bush was a convicted criminal but that doesnt make him any less a criminal. He broke the law he should be in jail but politics comes before justice, especially right wing politics.

Tell me FrankG do you think OJ did it.

[Frankg]

If President George W Bush hadn't overthrown Saddam than this country would've have definitely suffered another terrorist attack , Presdient George W Bush protected this country from terrorism for 7 years as a result of invading Iraq.

Like I said before where's the proof that he comitted a crime ?

That's a tough one for you isn't it Mwillam ?

I think OJ did it but I can't proove it so he technically he was not a criminal up until his last stunt.

FYI

crim·i·nal (krhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifmhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gif-nhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifl)
adj. 1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
2. Relating to the administration of penal law.

3. a. Guilty of crime.
b. Characteristic of a criminal.

4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.

n. One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime

[mwillman]

If President George W Bush hadn't overthrown Saddam than this country would've have definitely suffered another terrorist attack , Presdient George W Bush protected this country from terrorism for 7 years as a result of invading Iraq.

Like I said before where's the proof that he comitted a crime ?

That's a tough one for you isn't it Mwillam ?

I think OJ did it but I can't proove it so he technically he was not a criminal up until his last stunt.

FYI



Bush did nothing to make this country safer by invading Iraq.
You can say it 10,000 times and it will still not be true.

So the only criminals in the world are the ones that get caught.
I dont think so.

It says guilty of a crime it doesn't say found guilty of a crime.

[Frankg]

Bush did nothing to make this country safer by invading Iraq.
You can say it 10,000 times and it will still not be true.

So the only criminals in the world are the ones that get caught.
I dont think so.

It says guilty of a crime it doesn't say found guilty of a crime.

If you don't have proof than your accusation is false .

Correct ?

[xav8terx]

If President George W Bush hadn't overthrown Saddam than this country would've have definitely suffered another terrorist attack , Presdient George W Bush protected this country from terrorism for 7 years as a result of invading Iraq.

Like I said before where's the proof that he comitted a crime ?

That's a tough one for you isn't it Mwillam ?

I think OJ did it but I can't proove it so he technically he was not a criminal up until his last stunt.

FYI

crim·i·nal (krhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifmhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gif-nhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifl)
adj. 1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
2. Relating to the administration of penal law.

3. a. Guilty of crime.
b. Characteristic of a criminal.

4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.

n. One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime





Wow, care to support that BS claim?

[mwillman]

If you don't have proof than your accusation is false .

Correct ?

There's all kinds of proof the problem is the democrats want to fix the nation and creating the political shit storm that prosecuting Bush would create is not the best thing to do when we have all the problems he was a large part in creating.

Give it time he will be forced to face up to his crimes.

[doctordog]

There's all kinds of proof the problem is the democrats want to fix the nation and creating the political shit storm that prosecuting Bush would create is not the best thing to do when we have all the problems he was a large part in creating.

Give it time he will be forced to face up to his crimes.

Along with Congress eliminating our 3 biggest problems now.