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Smurf-Herder
07-24-2009, 06:28 AM
I can't and won't be a party to this. Three times SirMoby has come in and banned people that shouldn't have been banned, IMO.

He wants rules that at one point would have prevented linking to conservative sites he deems as "spreading Lies and Hate speech." He's since modified that to vague generalities that would cover almost anything he was in the mood for.

SirMoby, you can tell Tommy you need a new moderator, because I refuse to work with such a condescending control freak. Tell him you need a new stooge.

That's the way it is. I have too much integrity to be associated with someone like you in any way. I've put up with this crap as long as I can stand.

Moby
07-24-2009, 06:37 AM
Why are you such a drama queen?

You can adjust the rules anyway that you wish. The one's posted take ALL of your previous comments into account. Now you just have some additional ones about rules that you are welcome to change. I have suggested to you many times in the thread that you are welcome to change them.

I've banned 3 people in the past 12 months. One for repeated posting false information. One for claiming a man a killer and another for a man spamming and he's been banned numerous times before for the same thing.

Stop trying to create so much drama.

I have asked for your opinion on the last 2 banning and you provided no response at all so why are you complaining?

CONFLICTS
07-24-2009, 06:43 AM
you shouldn't ban people for posting "false" information, no matter how objective you feel the situation

1. if it's political, it's almost never about objective facts

2. the person may not even believe or know the information in contention is false. they may actually believe it, which you may feel is "wrong" but is at least honest. and not right to ban over. the right move is to let a debate ensue.

this is how that sneaky "moral relativism" conservatives are always on about actually works

Moby
07-24-2009, 06:53 AM
you shouldn't ban people for posting "false" information, no matter how objective you feel the situation

1. if it's political, it's almost never about objective facts

2. the person may not even believe or know the information in contention is false. they may actually believe it, which you may feel is "wrong" but is at least honest. and not right to ban over. the right move is to let a debate ensue.

this is how that sneaky "moral relativism" conservatives are always on about actually works
It was for repeatedly and consistently posting false information after being warned.

The board and mainly Smurf convinced me that the person really just didn't have a clue so if you will notice in the rules that I posted, I'm simply asking people to make an attempt to post truthful information.

We all know that people will be mislead and that with commentators becoming more popular as news and education slip in America there will be much more opportunity for people to be mislead and have false beliefs so we allow it.

Mr. Blue
07-24-2009, 09:35 AM
The rules should be simplified to the basics: Death Threats, Attacks on someone's family, and Excessive use of slurs.

If false information gets posted, challenge it with the real facts, it discredits the person far more than a banning, it discredits them far more then just calling them a sheep.

Most of human existence revolves around the regurgitation of what others tell us, no matter how "free thinking" a person thinks they are, it's not really the case. So, discussing topics would be preferable to just being dismissive. You may not convince the original poster, but you might convince other people reading the thread or new people that end up on the forum.

Everyday I come to the forum, it would be really easy to just say, "(fill in the name) you're a fucking moron" and while that would be a completely accurate assessment what would it bring to the discussion other than an exchange of insults?

kres24GT
07-24-2009, 09:38 AM
The term "hate speech" is hilarious.

This board is very funny with how pussy most of the posters are. Most of you need to off yourself if you are that upset by posts with no links and name calling.

Independent Harry
07-24-2009, 11:42 AM
who got banned?

MintJulep
07-24-2009, 12:25 PM
The rules should be simplified to the basics: Death Threats, Attacks on someone's family, and Excessive use of slurs.

If false information gets posted, challenge it with the real facts, it discredits the person far more than a banning, it discredits them far more then just calling them a sheep.

Most of human existence revolves around the regurgitation of what others tell us, no matter how "free thinking" a person thinks they are, it's not really the case. So, discussing topics would be preferable to just being dismissive. You may not convince the original poster, but you might convince other people reading the thread or new people that end up on the forum.

Everyday I come to the forum, it would be really easy to just say, "(fill in the name) you're a fucking moron" and while that would be a completely accurate assessment what would it bring to the discussion other than an exchange of insults?
Excellent. You nailed it.

Zebulon0351
07-24-2009, 12:28 PM
The term "hate speech" is hilarious.

This board is very funny with how pussy most of the posters are. Most of you need to off yourself if you are that upset by posts with no links and name calling.

I would hope most of you would be mature enough to not dedicate 90% of their posts to mudslinging and calling others "terrorist lovers"

kres24GT
07-24-2009, 01:11 PM
I would hope most of you would be mature enough to not dedicate 90% of their posts to mudslinging and calling others "terrorist lovers"


Regardless of how mature or immature a poster is being, to get your feelings hurt by what some jackass says on the internet is the epitome of weakness. You are harming the gene pool at that point.

Life_Long_Dem!
07-24-2009, 01:21 PM
but mister smurf I do believe you banned more people than moby quite frequently simply because you disagreed with them..dont qoute me...might be wrong but i think that was the case...goes back to the double standard thing....cant have it both ways dude.

Mr. Blue
07-24-2009, 01:51 PM
but mister smurf I do believe you banned more people than moby quite frequently simply because you disagreed with them..dont qoute me...might be wrong but i think that was the case...goes back to the double standard thing....cant have it both ways dude.

You are completely wrong. He's banned SeniorChief, Hogtrash, more times than I can remember because they excessively used slurs, he's banned disrupter because of death threats to other members of the forum.

He hasn't played it both ways and you're just being a douche because Smurf is a Republican. Way to be partisan :thumbsup:

doctordog
07-24-2009, 01:57 PM
Excellent. You nailed it.

Damn right, if you wear your feelings on your sleeve, move on, change the channel. DCjunkies is a great place because whining and crying to kept to a minimal.

Bill Cosby
07-24-2009, 02:07 PM
You are completely wrong. He's banned SeniorChief, Hogtrash, more times than I can remember because they excessively used slurs, he's banned disrupter because of death threats to other members of the forum.

He hasn't played it both ways and you're just being a douche because Smurf is a Republican. Way to be partisan :thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

I would agree 100%..........

When I first got her not to long ago things were a bit wilder but as time goes on things evolve & change.... SOme don't adapt to well........

I had issues w/ Smurf & vise verse... We were able to amicably & peacefully resolve whatever differences we had........

He is a pretty good person so not hating on him aint to hard...... IMO he has improved dramatically (he is relatively new @ this) & earned my respect & I am sad he has made this choice..........

Hopefully he will still continue to post.......

& as far as the rules????

I going to say only this. If anyone is to stupid to play w/in the rules they should find a place that suites their taste...........

There are some that spend 99% of their time complaining about something that makes up 1% of their posts.......... IDIOTS?????

I can assure most of those that are crying for an open board you aint gonna like it... True you can say what you want but then someone can rub your fucking nose in any way like......... Just a thought.......

Rules like laws serve a purpose..........

Good luck & all the best to you MR SMURF........... :thumbsup:

Dale escondido
07-24-2009, 03:24 PM
I can't and won't be a party to this. Three times SirMoby has come in and banned people that shouldn't have been banned, IMO.

He wants rules that at one point would have prevented linking to conservative sites he deems as "spreading Lies and Hate speech." He's since modified that to vague generalities that would cover almost anything he was in the mood for.

SirMoby, you can tell Tommy you need a new moderator, because I refuse to work with such a condescending control freak. Tell him you need a new stooge.

That's the way it is. I have too much integrity to be associated with someone like you in any way. I've put up with this crap as long as I can stand.

Good Smurf, I enjoyed the depth of your posting before becoming hall monitor.
I get tired of back and forth insults here, but trying to enforce rules against stupidity, maybe obama will set up a internet czar and make it sooooo simple.

CONFLICTS
07-24-2009, 03:53 PM
DCjunkies is a great place because whining and crying to kept to a minimal.

ahahahahahHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mwillman
07-24-2009, 04:11 PM
Well
I guess that means I wont get banned for the 5th time by the same guy.

ROdger Right
07-24-2009, 04:18 PM
I retract the "fuck off" I gave to you when you took the job, so we should be good.

Mr, gone
07-24-2009, 08:36 PM
Why is it that I can post an avatar of a monkey peeing into his mouth, video links of them masturbating - and a plethora of other acts with not much attention paid. But if I posted a picture of humans doing these things, most likely all hell would break loose.

Strange are these rules and regulations that society places on itself.:disbelief:

The Professor
07-24-2009, 10:24 PM
conflicts and mr blue are 100% correct

statements such as---bush lied us into war, or w's war was for oil---can never be proved nor disproved and are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT VALID EXPRESSIONS OF POLITICAL THOUGHT

IN AMERICA

how could you ban em, they're all over tv?

We all know that people will be mislEd and that with commentators becoming more popular as news and education slip in America there will be much more opportunity for people to be mislEd and have false beliefs so we allow it.

i'd like to see the LINK for the above assertion, for instance

it does not meet the standards that cost us frankg and radioguy

the real drama queen is anyone who lets another PERSONALITY get under his or her skin to the point where CENSORSHIP is even contemplated

such a CENSOR would be the one and only creating any drama

the difference is smurf banned people on BOTH SIDES of the political aisle

if anything he was way too reluctant to act against anyone on the left cuz he was loathe even to approach CENSORSHIP status

he warned at least 3 times the lunatic leftist who liked to put people's heads in plastic boxes to prevent hearing their screams---lifetime ban, smurf said, each warning

yet, women were still hanging in frozen meat lockers, and the lunatic was still freaking out the ladies

and smurf each time backed down

he relented just a few days ago concerning one of the neener neener kids

the CENSOR, on the other hand, bans ONLY those on the right

and only the most EFFECTIVE posters, at that

the CENSOR obviously lets HARD HITTING CONSERVATIVES get under his skin

the CENSOR is cowardly, weak and dishonest

(he's also pretty stupid)

another difference is smurf has NO pathologies, at least none observable

he's not a stuck needle compulsively digging a groove into some tired old, warped 78 LP

smurf is a very honorable man

radioguy is/was one of the most informative posters on this page, which is why he was banned

radioguy informed me of fact after fact after fact---and The perfect Prof who would never post a prevarication is multi multi sourced (just look at all the links)

for instance, radioguy is my original locus for the HELLER AMENDMENT, voted down in committee along pretty much party lines, which would have excluded ILLEGALS from the expanded medical coverage pelosi/bigears purpose and we can't afford, even without including our hispanic friends and neighbors

http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m7d21-White-House-health-care-bill-set-to-insure-illegals

the inclusion of illegals in pelosi/bigears' plans is gonna EXPLODE as an issue in the senate, just you wait and see

and remember where you heard it first---from radioguy

very, very powerful information

so, of course he had to GO

the CENSOR, as all of us saw, was actively engaged in an obviously personal campaign against radioguy, following him from post to post to post and calling him out

the CENSOR is demonstrably the worst example of personality whore

check out the CENSOR's profile, look at his last 100 posts, you'll see 10's revealing his anti-radioguy vendetta

a CENSORIOUS mod with a vendetta---that's what's been exhibited here today

dcjunkies is not long for this world, folks

CENSORSHIP is always suicide

MintJulep
07-24-2009, 10:29 PM
Why was radioguy banned? I didn't even realize he was banned until now.

The Professor
07-24-2009, 11:44 PM
smurf, please clear your pm's

cliff

Cat slave
07-25-2009, 12:00 AM
Why was radioguy banned? I didn't even realize he was banned until now.

I wandered in here briefly last night and saw the "banned" word on RG!!!
I couldnt find a thread where he was out of line. But, hell, we are all out
of line....look at the condition of the country...it didnt get like this at the
hands of lucid, intellectual, truth seeking citizens!!! The "majority" has
proven my point! Mass extinction by our own hands! Those would be the
hands that pushed the button in the voting booth and got us a Marxist
prez and continued to return career political criminals back to their cushy
jobs in WA.

Bill Cosby
07-25-2009, 12:03 AM
I wandered in here briefly last night and saw the "banned" word on RG!!!
I couldnt find a thread where he was out of line. But, hell, we are all out
of line....look at the condition of the country...it didnt get like this at the
hands of lucid, intellectual, truth seeking citizens!!! The "majority" has
proven my point! Mass extinction by our own hands! Those would be the
hands that pushed the button in the voting booth and got us a Marxist
prez and continued to return career political criminals back to their cushy
jobs in WA.

Can't you just say good bye to smurf w/out all your propaganda shit????

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 10:37 AM
RadioGuy was banned by SirMoby for "Topic Spamming" - Apparently SirMoby feels "different topics" repeating the same "source" is the same topic. With a PM to me suggesting it should be made permanent.

The Professor was banned for "Spreading Lies" - Which isn't a rule. Most of what he posted were generally held beliefs, based on many sources; the one or two that The Professor linked to SirMoby didn't like.

Frank was banned for saying Ted Kennedy killed someone - I don't know the context of what he said; but everybody who knows Kennedy knows the story behind the death of Mary-Jo Kopeckne.

I've received many PMs from members, both left and right, that think my moderation has been better than some boards; or at least fairly even-handed. I've cleared my PM folders if anybody wants to PM me.

My main contention with SirMoby is, pretty much what others already have stated. My thoughts earlier in the year concerning new rules was in response to SirMoby wanting new rules. It was somewhat extensive, clearly spelling everything out; in a lot of ways limiting his ability to just ban people for vague reasons.

However, he continues to push, going through with new rules as he needs them, to cover his banning people he doesn't like for personal political reasons. And trying to give the impression that I somehow have agreed to the changes. But I don't agree with the premise that I'm a part of this. I dropped the new rules; and have primarily concentrated on just interpreting the old rules, in a fair manner.

I refuse to be a part of the board authority if SirMoby is going to come in out of the blue and ban people for lame interpretations of the rules or rules he makes up as he goes along. I can't have this and still feel any credibility as a moderator. It's like Obama giving Biden a free hand to make contrary statements - that actually become contrary policy. It turns being a moderator into a sick joke.

Bottom line is, there's no point in moderating as long as SirMoby can ban people on a whim.

mwillman
07-25-2009, 11:18 AM
So are you quiting or not?

The rest of your diatribe sounds like the rest of the republican party whinny and full of shit.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 11:26 AM
So are you quiting or not?

The rest of your diatribe sounds like the rest of the republican party whinny and full of shit.

Technically I already resigned, but I haven't seen it accepted. I've still got moderator status.

The "diatribe" consists of how I see what's been going on in here.

I have no problem being moderator - as long as SirMoby doesn't ban people for reasons that I don't see as fair and even-handed.

mwillman
07-25-2009, 11:49 AM
Why not you have banned more people then he has and for less reason.

MintJulep
07-25-2009, 11:52 AM
RadioGuy was banned by SirMoby for "Topic Spamming" - Apparently SirMoby feels "different topics" repeating the same "source" is the same topic. With a PM to me suggesting it should be made permanent.Well, personally I haven't seen anything RG has done that deserves banning. He is always civil and makes an argument. I agree with Mr. Blue on this:

"The rules should be simplified to the basics: Death Threats, Attacks on someone's family, and Excessive use of slurs."

That seems reasonable. The other stuff is too subjective and after all, this is an opinion board, not a news source.

Frank was banned for saying Ted Kennedy killed someone - I don't know the context of what he said; but everybody who knows Kennedy knows the story behind the death of Mary-Jo Kopeckne.That shouldn't be bannable. I, too, think Ted Kennedy is responsible for the girl's death and technically, he did kill someone although never convicted. It would definitely be manslaughter had he not gotten off like all the rest always do.

I think you're fair as you've banned just as many or more on the right as the left. Hopefully everything will straighten itself out.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 12:02 PM
Well, personally I haven't seen anything RG has done that deserves banning. He is always civil and makes an argument. I agree with Mr. Blue on this:

"The rules should be simplified to the basics: Death Threats, Attacks on someone's family, and Excessive use of slurs."

That seems reasonable. The other stuff is too subjective and after all, this is an opinion board, not a news source.

That shouldn't be bannable. I, too, think Ted Kennedy is responsible for the girl's death and technically, he did kill someone although never convicted. It would definitely be manslaughter had he not gotten off like all the rest always do.

I think you're fair as you've banned just as many or more on the right as the left. Hopefully everything will straighten itself out.

Well, I'm apparently still moderator; according to my board status. So, I'm just going to keep doing the things I do, generally based on the old rules; trying to be as fair as possible. If they don't like it, they can change my board status.

radioguy
07-25-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm back... Thanks Smurf.

During my time off from here, I came up with a great topic idea. I planned to start 26 new, but related threads, calling them

"Rise of a pundit... a Beck retrospective"

What do you all think? Too much? :lmao2:

ps. that was a joke Moby, so don't have an aneurysm

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 12:14 PM
I'm back... Thanks Smurf.

During my time off from here, I came up with a great topic idea. I planned to start 26 new, but related threads, calling them

"Rise of a pundit... a Beck retrospective"

What do you all think? Too much? :lmao2:

ps. that was a joke Moby, so don't have an aneurysm

Yes, a bit too extreme.

Keep it in a single thread. It technically would be a single topic; the way you're describing it.

Just play it cool. I lifted the ban because I felt it was unwarranted; and you did have a Time Out to satisfy any feelings it was, technically. But I still have to maintain the status quo, under the basic rules.

The Professor
07-25-2009, 12:23 PM
I'm back... Thanks Smurf.

During my time off from here, I came up with a great topic idea. I planned to start 26 new, but related threads, calling them

"Rise of a pundit... a Beck retrospective"

What do you all think? Too much? :lmao2:

ps. that was a joke Moby, so don't have an aneurysm

welcome back, oh informative one

for aneurism no necessary cause is required

the aneurism is in the past

we all may have to suffer its effects in the present, it's true

but the STROKE obviously occurred long before any of us ever met each other

LOLOL!

Moby
07-25-2009, 12:26 PM
Smurf, here's your comments on the rules that I sent to you for you review. I took them all into account. After I posted them here you had some additional comments so I don't know why you changed your mind and why you were bitching when I've posted here that you're welcome to adjust them.

None of the board members had any constructive comments about the rules that I posted. I'm sorry that you want a long list of highly detailed rules but the board members had lots of very negative comments when you posted those. That's not my fault so get over it.

I've also asked for you feedback on every ban that I've made since I recommended you to be a moderator. You made no comments to me about the last two and you had my permission to let the Prof keep telling lies. So why are you bitching? Get over it.

I've given you free rein and in the past few weeks I've seen gender slurs, constant bumping of threads and hate. I responded with warnings to members and PMs to you that you never responded so again, get over it.

Stop being a drama queen and quit bitching. You're welcome to help but I will moderate the board as I see fit. So again, get over it.

Originally Posted by SirMoby

No hate speech. This seems a reasonable definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech
See my definition of hate speech. This is too broad for the board


No racial or gender slurs. Needs to include sexual orientation for gay members

Making any threatening statements against another board member or making personal attacks against a member's family will lead to a permanent ban without exception.
By the above, I should have banned UABblazer for life, but I only gave him 24 hours

If you cut and paste from another source, post a link to that source. They deserve credit and the board should know where the information originated.

No serious accusations against people that you cannot support. If you call someone a traitor, murder, rapist, terrorist or some other type of serious crime you need to post a link to a news source that actually documents a criminal case against them. The exception is pointing to politicians, lobbyists and pundits as being thieves because that's obvious

The above ends really childishly

Hostile statements against large groups of people for the actions of a single individual or a few is prejudice and should stop.

There is no point in using large text on a continuous basis. At first it will be edited to the normal size text and you will receive a warning.

No multiple nick names.

No spamming the board. 3 new threads on any single subject is enough in 24 hour period.

No bumping your own threads. If you have something to add to a thread then you're welcome to add it but no bumping just because no one cared to respond.

No pornographic material.


This entire section below goes against free speech on the board. People here already question sources now. Don't take them all for gullible children

Please make a reasonable effort to not post false information. Using a pundit/commentator as a source is not acceptable. There are times when people will make false statements but you should make some effort to be accurate. You will receive a warning first as some people may not understand what information is real and what is fantasy

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 12:33 PM
Smurf, here's your comments on the rules that I sent to you for you review. I took them all into account. After I posted them here you had some additional comments so I don't know why you changed your mind and why you were bitching when I've posted here that you're welcome to adjust them.

None of the board members had any constructive comments about the rules that I posted. I'm sorry that you want a long list of highly detailed rules but the board members had lots of very negative comments when you posted those. That's not my fault so get over it.

I've also asked for you feedback on every ban that I've made since I recommended you to be a moderator. You made no comments to me about the last two and you had my permission to let the Prof keep telling lies. So why are you bitching? Get over it.

I've given you free rein and in the past few weeks I've seen gender slurs, constant bumping of threads and hate. I responded with warnings to members and PMs to you that you never responded so again, get over it.

Stop being a drama queen and quit bitching. You're welcome to help but I will moderate the board as I see fit. So again, get over it.


You're ignoring the final rules I proposed - even as just a separate reference section for details.

I really hate how you twist everything. I gave you comments, that you refuse to take into account, on your vague self-serving rules.

Tell me, why after all these years do you need new rules?

And cut the Drama Queen bullshit.

bridge buff
07-25-2009, 12:49 PM
RadioGuy was banned by SirMoby for "Topic Spamming" - Apparently SirMoby feels "different topics" repeating the same "source" is the same topic. With a PM to me suggesting it should be made permanent.

The Professor was banned for "Spreading Lies" - Which isn't a rule. Most of what he posted were generally held beliefs, based on many sources; the one or two that The Professor linked to SirMoby didn't like.

Frank was banned for saying Ted Kennedy killed someone - I don't know the context of what he said; but everybody who knows Kennedy knows the story behind the death of Mary-Jo Kopeckne.

I've received many PMs from members, both left and right, that think my moderation has been better than some boards; or at least fairly even-handed. I've cleared my PM folders if anybody wants to PM me.

My main contention with SirMoby is, pretty much what others already have stated. My thoughts earlier in the year concerning new rules was in response to SirMoby wanting new rules. It was somewhat extensive, clearly spelling everything out; in a lot of ways limiting his ability to just ban people for vague reasons.

However, he continues to push, going through with new rules as he needs them, to cover his banning people he doesn't like for personal political reasons. And trying to give the impression that I somehow have agreed to the changes. But I don't agree with the premise that I'm a part of this. I dropped the new rules; and have primarily concentrated on just interpreting the old rules, in a fair manner.

I refuse to be a part of the board authority if SirMoby is going to come in out of the blue and ban people for lame interpretations of the rules or rules he makes up as he goes along. I can't have this and still feel any credibility as a moderator. It's like Obama giving Biden a free hand to make contrary statements - that actually become contrary policy. It turns being a moderator into a sick joke.

Bottom line is, there's no point in moderating as long as SirMoby can ban people on a whim.

The wrong people are being banned. Since it seems that one person is responsible for banning some of the most informative commentators on the site, how about getting rid of the one responsible for these insane decisions
J. P. Bill

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 12:51 PM
The wrong people are being banned. Since it seems that one person is responsible for banning some of the most informative commentators on the site, how about getting rid of the one responsible for these insane decisions
J. P. Bill

That isn't possible.

BTW, SirMoby just rebanned RadioGuy.

MintJulep
07-25-2009, 01:27 PM
What did he do this time?

SeniorChief
07-25-2009, 01:30 PM
BTW, SirMoby just rebanned RadioGuy.

Wow, just wow.

Moby
07-25-2009, 01:33 PM
You're ignoring the final rules I proposed
Look Smurf, we know that you want rules that are very detailed but with that they become very long and drawn out. When you posted them I supported your effort but the board members complained that they were too long.

I'm sorry about that but that's how people feel.

Now they're asking for the rules to be even shorter. I'm not prodding the board to push for rules that are shorter then what you want. That's just what they want and I agree.

I'm sorry about that but you need to accept that not everyone is going to agree with all the time and move on.

Zebulon0351
07-25-2009, 01:33 PM
Good job SM

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 01:33 PM
He reversed my reversal of his initial ban; which I thought was originally unwarranted.

I'm still waiting to see his interpretation of "Topic Spamming" - which he hasn't bothered to put in his "new rules."

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 01:36 PM
Look Smurf, we know that you want rules that are very detailed but with that they become very long and drawn out. When you posted them I supported your effort but the board members complained that they were too long.

I'm sorry about that but that's how people feel.

Now they're asking for the rules to be even shorter. I'm not prodding the board to push for rules that are shorter then what you want. That's just what they want and I agree.

I'm sorry about that but you need to accept that not everyone is going to agree with all the time and move on.

I want rules that are clear, so people can't be banned for something they don't realize is a rule, because you've decided to interpret it to suit your personal feelings at the time.

I'm getting goddamned sick of your misrepresenting everything.

Moby
07-25-2009, 01:38 PM
What did he do this time?
After I warned Radio Guy a couple of times for ignoring some basic rules, which Smurf was happy to let him to do, I banned him for 5 days I sent Smurf a PM which he responded to.

RG has been banned numerous times for spamming, gender slurs, thread bumping and I can't remember what else. Bill finally banned him permanently. Smurf requested that we bring him back and I said that I was OK with it as long as he followed some very basic rules.

It seems that RG is not adult enough to do that.

Smurf came in here and unbanned. I simply put the ban back in place. Smurf has a PM from me and he's welcome to respond to it in a mature manner but hasn't yet.

Moby
07-25-2009, 01:40 PM
He reversed my reversal of his initial ban; which I thought was originally unwarranted.

I'm still waiting to see his interpretation of "Topic Spamming" - which he hasn't bothered to put in his "new rules."
Do a search and STOP BEING A DRAMA QUEEN.

You still have the original PM.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 01:43 PM
Do a search and STOP BEING A DRAMA QUEEN.

You still have the original PM.

No I don't.

I cleared out my PMs earlier this morning when I first logged in.

And all you PM-ed me on was banning RadioGuy for Topic Spamming - without any clarification.

Furthermore, he hasn't violated any rules except for what you just banned him for, since he returned.

Is Drame Queen your new catch phrase?

No more "Programming" or other insulting characterizations?

SeniorChief
07-25-2009, 01:56 PM
Do a search and STOP BEING A DRAMA QUEEN.



Speaking of "drama," why are you airing your tit-for-tat with Smurf publicly? Take it to PM. You're a moderator, as is he. You should show a little respect for your co-worker here. If PMing is too difficult, call him on the telephone and work it out.

Seriously.

Talk about drama. Look in a mirror.

mwillman
07-25-2009, 02:03 PM
SirMoby didnt start this thread.

Moby
07-25-2009, 02:07 PM
Speaking of "drama," why are you airing your tit-for-tat with Smurf publicly? Take it to PM. You're a moderator, as is he. You should show a little respect for your co-worker here. If PMing is too difficult, call him on the telephone and work it out.

Seriously.

Talk about drama. Look in a mirror.
I didn't start this thread.
I didn't make the title all caps.
I didn't threaten to resign.
I have sent Smurf PMs to discuss this and he chose to post it here.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drama+queen
Main Entry: drama queen
Function: noun
Date: 1979
: a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions
We could debate about "often" but I think the thread title fits the rest of the description.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 02:11 PM
I didn't start this thread.
I didn't make the title all caps.
I didn't threaten to resign.
I have sent Smurf PMs to discuss this and he chose to post it here.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drama+queen

We could debate about "often" but I think the thread title fits the rest of the description.

If it were completely an emotional response, I'd be banning liberal members for the same lame excuses you use to ban conservative members.

BTW, I find your PMs very psychlogically manipulative and condescending, when we disagree. Which we do most of the time.

SeniorChief
07-25-2009, 02:15 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drama+queen



I know what a drama queen is, Alice.

And right now, that would be you.

Your name-calling/calling-out/berating a fellow Mod - your partner in Moderating - publicly, also speaks volumes of your inability to be a leader.

Perhaps you should resign as Moderator for the good of the forum.

You seem unstable.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 02:17 PM
I know what a drama queen is, Alice.

And right now, that would be you.

Your name-calling/calling-out/berating a fellow Mod - your partner in Moderating - publicly, also speaks volumes of your inability to be a leader.

Perhaps you should resign as Moderator for the good of the forum.

You seem unstable.

That's the point, I'm not his "partner" in anything. I'm a moderator who pretty much is the babysitter; who has to watch people being banned for lame excuses when I least expect it.

SeniorChief
07-25-2009, 02:18 PM
That's the point, I'm not his "partner" in anything.

Why don't you ban him?

That would be a great plus for the forum.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 02:22 PM
Why don't you ban him?

That would be a great plus for the forum.

I can't and wouldn't if I could. That would be something a child would resort to.

The Professor
07-25-2009, 03:34 PM
LOLOLOL!

the CENSOR in his own twisted little words once more puts his PATHOLOGIES on display

radioguy was BANNED, he NOW asserts---

for GENDER SLURS, THREAD BUMPING and "i can't remember" the rest...

LOLOLOL!

IN ADDITION to the SPAMMING which BY DEFINITION never occurred

everyone here SAW what went down

radioguy tried to PISS OFF the CENSOR---PERSONALLY

LOLOLOL!

(which isn't difficult)

by referring time and again to BECK!

to BECK!

to BECK!

LOLOLOL!

til WHACKED OUT little CENSOR just couldn't TAKE any more

LOLOL!

the TOPICS discussed by BECK (LOLOLOLOL!) were---

the real meaning of america

the quality of veterans' health care

hillary's words on global warming

barbara boxer vs the black guy

and govt waste of stimulus cash

GENDER SLURS!!!

LOLOLOLOL!

what an IDIOTIC dodge!

THREAD BUMPING!

what the HECK does any of THAT have to do with THIS specific?

LOLOL!

DEFINITION of BIASED judgement

even to BRING IT UP

FLAWED thinking

in his own OBSESSED little words!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

too, too, too funny

hang in radioguy

the CENSOR is making a GIANT of you

and a MIDGET of dcj

LOLOL!

unbelievably beyond DUMB!

BECK!

BOO!

LOLOLOL!

Bill Cosby
07-25-2009, 04:04 PM
I'm back... Thanks Smurf.

During my time off from here, I came up with a great topic idea. I planned to start 26 new, but related threads, calling them

"Rise of a pundit... a Beck retrospective"

What do you all think? Too much? :lmao2:

ps. that was a joke Moby, so don't have an aneurysm

You still can't recieve PM's..???

Welcome back.........:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
07-25-2009, 04:14 PM
Why not you have banned more people then he has and for less reason.

Like who??? for what???

I have not seen anyone that he has banned that was not a valid reason.........

I am not for banning.......... Personally I would much rather rub their fucking nose in it but on account of the good ppl here I bite my tongue.........

They know the rule. he was repeatedly warned them.......... & they repeatedly test & challenge... As I said if it was me I would humilate them.....

In my experience, & I have gone to lots of site, he has been/is far more understanding then the vast majority of them regarding the issues he ha had to deal w/......... On almost 100% of those boards left/right sports team lovers hater unite & beat the shit out of them & then they get banned _FOREVER!!! There is no return............ I will say, from experience, after the ass kicking they get they not likely to wanna come back.........

Bill Cosby
07-25-2009, 04:19 PM
Wow, just wow.

Welcome back Mr Chief...................:thumbsup:

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 04:29 PM
You still can't recieve PM's..???

Welcome back.........:thumbsup:

Too late, SirMoby put the original ban back on.

Bill Cosby
07-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Yea I saw that I was went further in the thread..........

Sorry to hear that............

I went over his last few post & could not see what it was all about.......???
DUNNO???????????????

Binky
07-25-2009, 05:33 PM
That's the point, I'm not his "partner" in anything. I'm a moderator who pretty much is the babysitter; who has to watch people being banned for lame excuses when I least expect it.


Personally, I don't know why anyone would want to be a mod. Time consuming and a pain in the arse. Seems one would already have enough on his or her plate to deal with on a daily basis than to have to stand watch, and babysit a bunch of whiny, itty bitty, butt sniffs to make sure they didn't cross the line. Since people are so childish, that's a full time job in and of itself. Whine, whine, whine. Bitch, bitch, bitch....brings new meaning to the phrase, "silence is golden."

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 08:22 PM
Yea I saw that I was went further in the thread..........

Sorry to hear that............

I went over his last few post & could not see what it was all about.......???
DUNNO???????????????

Too much Glenn Beck. It drives SirMoby crazy.

Smurf-Herder
07-25-2009, 08:25 PM
Personally, I don't know why anyone would want to be a mod. Time consuming and a pain in the arse. Seems one would already have enough on his or her plate to deal with on a daily basis than to have to stand watch, and babysit a bunch of whiny, itty bitty, butt sniffs to make sure they didn't cross the line. Since people are so childish, that's a full time job in and of itself. Whine, whine, whine. Bitch, bitch, bitch....brings new meaning to the phrase, "silence is golden."

To me, it's worth it, to know there's a place for a free exchange of ideas; among the stupid stuff. I'm kind of an idealist, in that way. It's the principle of the thing.

bridge buff
07-25-2009, 10:03 PM
RG has been banned numerous times for spamming, gender slurs, thread bumping and I can't remember what else.

Gender slurs! There is a liberal gentleman on this site who has used every feminine derogatory possible to discredit Lady Liberty. Where is your objectivity?
J.P. Bill

mwillman
07-25-2009, 11:05 PM
Didn't you write one of these resign posts some months ago.

All this melodrama reminds me of daytime TV without the beautiful people.

Its a freaking forum get over your self.

Binky
07-25-2009, 11:22 PM
To me, it's worth it, to know there's a place for a free exchange of ideas; among the stupid stuff. I'm kind of an idealist, in that way. It's the principle of the thing.

Well, better ye, than me. Enjoy it.

Moby
07-26-2009, 12:16 AM
Too much Glenn Beck. It drives SirMoby crazy.
Wrong Drama Queen

Moby
07-26-2009, 12:17 AM
Gender slurs! There is a liberal gentleman on this site who has used every feminine derogatory possible to discredit Lady Liberty. Where is your objectivity?
J.P. Bill
Who's doing it? I don't read every post.

The Professor
07-26-2009, 01:36 AM
well, that's real believable

LOLOLOL!

Smurf-Herder
07-26-2009, 08:08 AM
Who's doing it? I don't read every post.

No, you only pay attention to the people you are looking for reasons to ban.

I took care of it all last night - without having to ban anyone.

Hog Trash
07-26-2009, 10:21 AM
I would hope most of you would be mature enough to not dedicate 90% of their posts to mudslinging and calling others "terrorist lovers"You can't deny that liberals seem to have an obsession with defending muslims whether in Gitmo, Palestine, Iraq, Afganistan or America regardless of the situation.

In my personal opinion it's not actually because they are muslim per say, but because liberals will always take the side of any one or group that is anti-America...ALWAYS!

Bill Cosby
07-26-2009, 11:06 AM
You can't deny that liberals seem to have an obsession with defending muslims whether in Gitmo, Palestine, Iraq, Afganistan or America regardless of the situation.

In my personal opinion it's not actually because they are muslim per say, but because liberals will always take the side of any one or group that is anti-America...ALWAYS!

Just another wrong conclusion..............

Defending ppl, some of whom may be Muslim victims..............

The key word is victim- not Muslim...

:hi:

Bill Cosby
07-26-2009, 11:09 AM
Too much Glenn Beck. It drives SirMoby crazy.

Watching any of those shows will likely have most folks walking a few IQ points lighter.... :thumbsup:

Zebulon0351
07-26-2009, 11:49 AM
Just another wrong conclusion..............

Defending ppl, some of whom may be Muslim victims..............

The key word is victim- not Muslim...

:hi:

It doesn't matter though BC, according to some, any Muslim is a terrorist. It doesn't matter if they did anything or not.

bridge buff
07-26-2009, 02:23 PM
Who's doing it? I don't read every post.

The name is Zebulon0351. You don't need to read all of the posts. only the ones to which he's contributed. You banned Radio Guy for spamming or something else that I have trouble understanding. I think he's one of the biggest assets on this site. I've only been here for a few months and I've never been on sites like this before but in my opinion you've made a big mistake. There are so many others here that offer nothing but criticism and attack. They are predictable and not willing to discuss issues. Maybe that's what this site wants and if so Ive come to the wrong place. I still question your objectivity.
J.P. Bill

Zebulon0351
07-26-2009, 02:26 PM
The name is Zebulon0351. You don't need to read all of the posts. only the ones to which he's contributed. You banned Radio Guy for spamming or something else that I have trouble understanding. I think he's one of the biggest assets on this site. I've only been here for a few months and I've never been on sites like this before but in my opinion you've made a big mistake. There are so many others here that offer nothing but criticism and attack. They are predictable and not willing to discuss issues. Maybe that's what this site wants and if so Ive come to the wrong place. I still question your objectivity.
J.P. Bill

Yeah Bridge.. it is all me..

Bill Cosby
07-26-2009, 04:06 PM
It doesn't matter though BC, according to some, any Muslim is a terrorist. It doesn't matter if they did anything or not.


That may be true... None the less I am lead to point out the obvious........:banghead:

IMO your benevolence towards Muslims/Arabs etc speaks volumes as to what type of person you are & your strength of charter... :thumbsup:

Sometimes ppl w/ similar backgrounds & experiences often times come away embittered....

Hope yo enjoy your weekend.... :)

CONFLICTS
07-26-2009, 09:28 PM
i don't know the whole story, seeing as how i have a fucking life

but moby is behaving like a child in this thread, and if people are being banned for ideas they at least believe (empirically true or not), that's not how you moderate a political forum

you let the debate sort it out

Cat slave
07-26-2009, 11:03 PM
But that would require the ability to discuss issues instead of hate speech and
vitriol.

Just silence the opposition...typical "librul" tactics.

Trinnity
11-09-2010, 07:03 PM
What the hell happened here????

The site seems to have calmed down since then. Very revealing about several people.....

Truckman
11-09-2010, 07:22 PM
What the hell happened here????

The site seems to have calmed down since then. Very revealing about several people.....
Don't blame me, I just got here yesterday...:hi: ...Ben

Bill Cosby
11-09-2010, 07:34 PM
I blame the guy from texas.............:mad:

he is from Texas, what more need of proof do we need.........:lmao2:

......................................

I was digging around in the archives & I thought I heard someone in the archives digging around.........:lmao2:

Gee, I didn't realize we were alone in there..........

http://seldomshort.com/pictures/large/candle_light_dinner.jpg

Truckman
11-09-2010, 07:50 PM
I blame the guy from texas.............:mad:

he is from Texas, what more need of proof do we need.........:lmao2:

I'm only holding this smoking gun for a friend...I'm sure he'll be right back...:kiss: ...Ben

Trinnity
11-09-2010, 08:37 PM
Don't look at me, I didn't do it.

Hey, what's that over there????
here it comes

OMG, duck!!!!!

Southern Man
11-09-2010, 09:08 PM
I didn't read the whole thread- I probably don't have to. Lemme guess; a liberal moderator is banning conservative posters. Do I have it right?

Trinnity
11-09-2010, 09:13 PM
I didn't read the whole thread- I probably don't have to. Lemme guess; a liberal moderator is banning conservative posters. Do I have it right?How did you know?
Smurf posted less and less, and finally he quit in August. He was our conservative mod.

MarkMiller
11-09-2010, 09:27 PM
Don't blame me, I just got here yesterday...:hi: ...Ben
Lock the doors....:D

AK Gandy
11-09-2010, 09:29 PM
Looking back through this thread, I would say he was much more than "our conservative mod."

It seems to me he was pretty high-strung and prone to drama. :dunno:

Considering that he was kept on as a mod after he started this thread to publicly whine, about a matter that should have stayed in the mod forum...... I would say he was treated better than any other board mod I've ever seen.

Any bets he misses the drama............ and will be back? ;)



.

MarkMiller
11-09-2010, 09:31 PM
How did you know?
Smurf posted less and less, and finally he quit in August. He was our conservative mod.
Yeah, but this was an old thread. He came back.

I think I may have just pssied him off or it may have been something else entirely. The last encounter I had was about something he said that he had warned me about saying....so when he said it I mirrored his exact words to me. I don't know if that even bothered him to be honest.

Edit....OK...I took a look...and I see what happened and I can't believe it to be honest.

bairdi
11-09-2010, 09:39 PM
Why anyone would go into the archives and resurrect this thread is beyond me.

MintJulep
11-09-2010, 09:43 PM
I was wondering the same thing bairdi.........

Moby
11-09-2010, 09:45 PM
I didn't read the whole thread- I probably don't have to. Lemme guess; a liberal moderator is banning conservative posters. Do I have it right?
Welcome back Southern Man. It seems that your assumption haven't changed in a long while and are still wrong. Some things never change.

AK Gandy
11-09-2010, 09:49 PM
I was wondering the same thing bairdi.........

You need to ask Trinity that question.

Trinnity
11-09-2010, 11:11 PM
Bill was bumping old threads, and I came across it. I'm surprised all this was played out in public.

So many who posted on this thread are now banned. It seems the site has settled down quite a bit since then.

Has it Minty?

Smurf was a good guy and I miss him.

doctordog
11-09-2010, 11:20 PM
Bill was bumping old threads, and I came across it. I'm surprised all this was played out in public.

So many who posted on this thread are now banned. It seems the site has settled down quite a bit since then.

Has it Minty?

Smurf was a good guy and I miss him.

I miss him, too.:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 12:44 AM
I'm only holding this smoking gun for a friend...I'm sure he'll be right back...:kiss: ...Ben

:lmao2: :lmao2:

:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 12:49 AM
Why anyone would go into the archives and resurrect this thread is beyond me.


LOL............ I was kinda surprised to.......... I thought wow Smurf quit......

I got an Email from him & I think he is still pondering it.......

I am not sure if he has been lurking around or not but perhaps he will see this & add his two cents..........

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 12:52 AM
Bill was bumping old threads, and I came across it. I'm surprised all this was played out in public.

So many who posted on this thread are now banned. It seems the site has settled down quite a bit since then.

Has it Minty?

Smurf was a good guy and I miss him.

Did you even know Smurf???

How did you find it?? Did you go digging???

We were alone in the archives & you wasted the moment on this???WTF?? :lmao2:

I had forgotten all about this one............

Seems that some of them are banned & things are much better, @ least IMHO then they were before.........

slowhand
11-10-2010, 01:01 AM
Did you even know Smurf???

How did you find it?? Did you go digging???

We were alone in the archives & you wasted the moment on this???WTF?? :lmao2:

I had forgotten all about this one............

Seems that some of them are banned & things are much better, @ least IMHO then they were before.........

Evidenty Trin has never had the honor of meeting Hog Trash, and Senior Chief..Then again, they'd probably be in the Fab5 lounge munching on groundhog burgers..drinking Margaritas, and dissin' us libruls..

Who luvs ya baby? :lmao2:

Oppps..Sorry, Ol Chiefy Wiefy is still a member in good standing..Who says theres no such things as miracles? :lmao2:

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 05:58 AM
Did you even know Smurf???

How did you find it?? Did you go digging???

We were alone in the archives & you wasted the moment on this???WTF?? :lmao2:

I had forgotten all about this one............

Seems that some of them are banned & things are much better, @ least IMHO then they were before.........Of course I knew Roger.

I was looking at threads you bumped, and saw a member avi that said "banned". It was RadioGuy. So I pulled up his profile page to see what his last couple of posts said - cuz I was curious to see what he'd written to get banned. His posts that I saw were fine. Anyone can look if they don't believe me.
That's how I ran across this. I was shocked to see so many avi's with "banned" under them.

And Bill darlin', I didn't waste any moments in the dark in here. That was me that grabbed your ass - twice. :thumbsup:

:lmao2:

Moby
11-10-2010, 06:07 AM
Smurf is a good guy and he didn't quit after starting this thread. He posted for almost a year afterwards. I'd enjoy having him around again.

MintJulep
11-10-2010, 06:49 AM
That was a nice thing to say, Moby...........

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 06:56 AM
Yes, Mobe, nice thing to say.

I think you do sometimes use the rules to unfairly punish people. You did it to me over that shit with PR.
However, from what I've seen, I don't think you do it as much as you used to.

I think you've mellowed some.

Moby
11-10-2010, 06:59 AM
Yes, Mobe, nice thing to say.

I think you do sometimes use the rules to unfairly punish people. You did it to me over that shit with PR.
However, from what I've seen, I don't think you do it as much as you used to.

I think you've mellowed some.
I didn't feel that I had a choice since so many have been banned for using that phrase.

I recommended Smurf as a mod. I don't agree with him but he was here a lot and cared.

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 07:35 AM
I didn't feel that I had a choice since so many have been banned for using that phrase.

I recommended Smurf as a mod. I don't agree with him but he was here a lot and cared.Let me be more specific. I didn't have a problem with you giving me a time out. But SHE should have gotten one also. SHE was the one who kept on and on reposting it. I had deleted the post shortly after I made it. That was appropriate.
She brought that post on by harassment. She does that sort of thing for sport. I don't let her get to me anymore.
She went on a crusade to disrupt threads by going on and on about it. After you told her not to post it anymore, she continued to refer to it.

She should have gotten a time out for that.
That is my opinion.

She is a troll. A TROLL. You know it. She should have stayed banned.

2T
11-10-2010, 07:50 AM
Why anyone would go into the archives and resurrect this thread is beyond me.


beacuse she enjoys that kind of show... drama queens.

I'm amazed that wasn't shut and moved, its an embarrassment to Smurf

2T
11-10-2010, 07:53 AM
Let me be more specific. I didn't have a problem with you giving me a time out. But SHE should have gotten one also. SHE was the one who kept on and on reposting it. I had deleted the post shortly after I made it. That was appropriate.
She brought that post on by harassment. She does that sort of thing for sport. I don't let her get to me anymore.
She went on a crusade to disrupt threads by going on and on about it. After you told her not to post it anymore, she continued to refer to it.

She should have gotten a time out for that.
That is my opinion.

She is a troll. A TROLL. You know it. She should have stayed banned.

"I can't handle posting on the internet... when I give my opinions, people try to make me answer their questions about what I wrote" "life is soooo UNFAIR" "WHAAAH!"
:p

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 08:07 AM
"I can't handle posting on the internet... when I give my opinions, people try to make me answer their questions about what I wrote" "life is soooo UNFAIR" "WHAAAH!"
:pI can handle her and you just fine, thanks. You have a lot in common with her, and that reflects badly on you.
You're entitled to your opinion, but the above statement of yours is just trolling/baiting. Big deal. yawn
Carry on, tooty. :hi:

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 08:23 AM
Welcome back Southern Man. It seems that your assumption haven't changed in a long while and are still wrong. Some things never change. What? :confused:

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 08:25 AM
How did you know?
Smurf posted less and less, and finally he quit in August. He was our conservative mod. I know liberals like the back of my hand. So how many moderators, and how many are lib-tards?

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 08:44 AM
I know liberals like the back of my hand. So how many moderators, and how many are lib-tards?

I have to ask, how much intelligent dialog and exchange of viewpoints do you expect to get, when you start out with an attitude like that? :confused:

Throwing invectives and calling names is easy.

Getting past the ugly, partisan rhetoric....... is much harder.

.

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 08:45 AM
So how many moderators, and how many are lib-tards?Huh.......?

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 08:48 AM
I have to ask, how much intelligent dialog and exchange of viewpoints do you expect to get, when you start out with an attitude like that? :confused:

Throwing invectives and calling names is easy.

Getting past the ugly, partisan rhetoric....... is much harder.

.There's no such thing as having an intelligent conversation with liberals. After they get slammed with facts they start to spin....

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 08:49 AM
Huh.......?How can I be more clear?

1. How many moderators on this board?
2. How many are liberal?
3. How many are conservative?

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 08:51 AM
There's no such thing as having an intelligent conversation with liberals. After they get slammed with facts they start to spin....
And the right doesn't do the same thing? :doh:

I think I see the problem. :rolleyes:

.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 08:53 AM
And the right doesn't do the same thing? :doh:

I think I see the problem. :rolleyes:

.
No, because the Right is usually right and the Left is usually wrong...

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 08:58 AM
How can I be more clear?

1. How many moderators on this board?
2. How many are liberal?
3. How many are conservative?
Oh, okay. your wording was unclear to me

There are 2 moderators.
Both are liberal.
Now that Smurf is gone, there are NO conservative mods.

The owner of the site is liberal too, so I have been told.

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 09:01 AM
No, because the Right is usually right and the Left is usually wrong...


:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Thanks.

I needed that. :thumbsup:


.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:18 AM
Oh, okay. your wording was unclear to me

There are 2 moderators.
Both are liberal.
Now that Smurf is gone, there are NO conservative mods.

The owner of the site is liberal too, so I have been told.

I'm predicting the usual then: I best them at debate, they find any excuse to ban me, first for a day, then for a week....

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:19 AM
...

Thanks.

I needed that. :thumbsup:


.

Actually you didn't "need" that, so you're wrong. You must be a liberal. :D

Moby
11-10-2010, 09:20 AM
There's no such thing as having an intelligent conversation with liberals. After they get slammed with facts they start to spin....
So what facts have you presented since coming back after bitching about us on another board?

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:24 AM
So what facts have you presented since coming back after bitching about us on another board? Prove your assertion that I have been 'bitching about you all on another board'.

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 09:35 AM
Regardless of how mature or immature a poster is being, to get your feelings hurt by what some jackass says on the internet is the epitome of weakness. You are harming the gene pool at that point.

Applause, Applause

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 09:39 AM
It was for repeatedly and consistently posting false information after being warned.

The board and mainly Smurf convinced me that the person really just didn't have a clue so if you will notice in the rules that I posted, I'm simply asking people to make an attempt to post truthful information.

We all know that people will be mislead and that with commentators becoming more popular as news and education slip in America there will be much more opportunity for people to be mislead and have false beliefs so we allow it.

My two cents ..

I've been on quite a few boards and in my opinion you're doing a terrific job .. a job that undoubtedly is not easy. Can't please everybody .. don't even try.

Continue doing just what you're doing brother.

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 09:41 AM
Actually you didn't "need" that, so you're wrong. You must be a liberal.


Actually, I am an Independent/Centrist/Moderate.

All terms that I'm sure you will lump together, being as most folks on the far right have to pigeonhole anything other than their views.......... as being a "liberal." :doh:

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Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:45 AM
My two cents ..

I've been on quite a few boards and in my opinion you're doing a terrific job .. a job that undoubtedly is not easy. Can't please everybody .. don't even try.

Continue doing just what you're doing brother.Oh look, a liberal patting a liberal on the back.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:47 AM
Actually, I am an Independent/Centrist/Moderate.

All terms that I'm sure you will lump together, being as most folks on the far right have to pigeonhole anything other than their views.......... as being a "liberal." :doh:

.

In other words, you realize that your liberal views can't be defended. :D

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 09:50 AM
Oh look, a liberal patting a liberal on the back.

Sorry, you can save your legandary ignorance for someone who gives a fuck.

In fact, just so there is no ambivalence .. fuck you and the hole you crawled out of.

Pat that on the back.

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 09:51 AM
Actually, I am an Independent/Centrist/Moderate.

All terms that I'm sure you will lump together, being as most folks on the far right have to pigeonhole anything other than their views.......... as being a "liberal." :doh:

.

You'll find this thing to be a complete waste of time.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:53 AM
Sorry, you can save your legandary ignorance for someone who gives a fuck.

In fact, just so there is no ambivalence .. fuck you and the hole you crawled out of.

Pat that on the back. Oh come on, don't pussy-foot around. Just call me a racist and get it over with it. :)

Truckman
11-10-2010, 09:55 AM
Actually, I am an Independent/Centrist/Moderate.

Having known and argued with Rick for many years, I'll agree with that...He's also compassionate, patriotic and as bull-headed as anyone I've ever met...

And I still owe him a Diet Dr Pepper...:banghead: ...Ben

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 09:58 AM
Sorry, you can save your legandary ignorance for someone who gives a fuck.

In fact, just so there is no ambivalence .. fuck you and the hole you crawled out of.

Pat that on the back.meltdown in progress ^

As Bill would say and I'm paraphrasing, when you resort to this kind of response, you show you have lost the argument.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 10:00 AM
meltdown in progress ^

As Bill would say and I'm paraphrasing, when you resort to this kind of response, you show you have lost the argument.

BAC lost the argument long ago. He stared calling me "Southie", so in response I started calling him "Blackie", which of course made me a "racist" in his judgment. :lmao2:

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 10:06 AM
meltdown in progress ^

As Bill would say and I'm paraphrasing, when you resort to this kind of response, you show you have lost the argument.

With all due reaspect .. I don't care that you don't like my response to that thing.

What "argument" are you talking about? Show me what "argument" I lost. You didn't even consider that before you jumped in.

I responded to a serial moron who've I've encountered before and have absolutely no respect for. He knew that when he posted to me.

If my response to that thing doesn't suit you, then perhaps you should put me on ignore because that is my every response to it. It knows that as well.

Stop trying to be my mother .. I've read many of your posts that are a long ass way from PC. Your attempt to protect it is ONLY because it's a right-winger like you.

Just post what you believe .. stop whining.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 10:12 AM
With all due reaspect .. I don't care that you don't like my response to that thing.

What "argument" are you talking about? Show me what "argument" I lost. You didn't even consider that before you jumped in.

I responded to a serial moron who've I've encountered before and have absolutely no respect for. He knew that when he posted to me.

If my response to that thing doesn't suit you, then perhaps you should put me on ignore because that is my every response to it. It knows that as well.

Stop trying to be my mother .. I've read many of your posts that are a long ass way from PC. Your attempt to protect it is ONLY because it's a right-winger like you.

Just post what you believe .. stop whining.

BAC: the argument you lost is way back in history, so long ago that even I forgot what it was about. You're still sore about it so resort to insults right away. It speaks volumes not just about the weakness of your arguments but the weakness of your character...

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 10:12 AM
BAC lost the argument long ago. He stared calling me "Southie", so in response I started calling him "Blackie", which of course made me a "racist" in his judgment. :lmao2:

The lying fuck you've always been.

"Southie" .. what the fuck is that?

You're a racist because that's what your mama made you.

I don't give a damn what you call me .. you're just a moronic blip on my screen that I get to trash everytime your dumb ass posts to me .. if I choose.

Ignoring you is equally as pleasing.

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 10:13 AM
BAC: the argument you lost is way back in history, so long ago that even I forgot what it was about. You're still sore about it so resort to insults right away. It speaks volumes not just about the weakness of your arguments but the weakness of your character...

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Watch .. this thing will keep on posting to me like a love-sick pig.

Watch

MintJulep
11-10-2010, 10:19 AM
My two cents ..

I've been on quite a few boards and in my opinion you're doing a terrific job .. a job that undoubtedly is not easy. Can't please everybody .. don't even try.

Continue doing just what you're doing brother.I agree 100%. Until someone has been around a bunch of thin-skinned control freaks with a ban button, one doesn't know how much to appreciate him.

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 10:21 AM
You should just ignore him then, BAC.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 10:22 AM
The lying fuck you've always been.

"Southie" .. what the fuck is that?

You're a racist because that's what your mama made you.


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=474681

Oops.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 10:24 AM
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Watch .. this thing will keep on posting to me like a love-sick pig.

Watch

Or a man with a fly swatter. :D

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 10:29 AM
Or a man with a fly swatter.

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Told you

Its ONLY value to a message board is to engage in 8th grade ignorant bumper-sticker illogic. That's its only "value."

I think it to be sub-human .. but it will keep on posting to me anyway

... keep watching :0)

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:03 AM
Of course I knew Roger.

I was looking at threads you bumped, and saw a member avi that said "banned". It was RadioGuy. So I pulled up his profile page to see what his last couple of posts said - cuz I was curious to see what he'd written to get banned. His posts that I saw were fine. Anyone can look if they don't believe me.
That's how I ran across this. I was shocked to see so many avi's with "banned" under them.

And Bill darlin', I didn't waste any moments in the dark in here. That was me that grabbed your ass - twice. :thumbsup:

:lmao2:


:lmao2: :thumbsup:

I have not gone through the whole thread again but as to RG...... he made his own choices.........

he even came back & did essentially the same things he did before...

If posting here makes him so upset, why would he want to come here??

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 11:10 AM
......and as bull-headed as anyone I've ever met...

:lmao2: :lmao2:



And I still owe him a Diet Dr Pepper...:banghead: ...Ben

I don't recall that.

But I do like DDP. :thumbsup:


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Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:10 AM
There's no such thing as having an intelligent conversation with liberals. After they get slammed with facts they start to spin....


So you are crying about the mods.......... & you come here to have "unintelligent conversation" w/ luberals???

SO who is gonna be doing the slamming?? You??

:lmao2: :lmao2:

:thumbsup:

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 11:11 AM
In other words, you realize that your liberal views can't be defended.

:rolleyes:

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MintJulep
11-10-2010, 11:12 AM
:lmao2: :lmao2:





I don't recall that.

But I do like DDP. :thumbsup:


.DDP is probably the best tasting diet soda, along with diet Orange Crush. :D

My latest favorite is Fresca.

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 11:13 AM
So you are crying about the mods.......... & you come here to have "unintelligent conversation" w/ luberals???

SO who is gonna be doing the slamming?? You??

:lmao2: :lmao2:

:thumbsup:

So far, it appears to be the slamee. :D

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:14 AM
I'm predicting the usual then: I best them at debate, they find any excuse to ban me, first for a day, then for a week....


I have a couple questions............ As long as you been here were you ever banned & by who??

When have you ever bested anyone here ever?? left or right??

You got no game, never did........... You get your ass handed to you time & again & go back home crying & licking your wounds.........

So rather than talk the talk, why don't you start some threads & walk the walk..........

Cya in your threads.............:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:16 AM
BAC lost the argument long ago. He stared calling me "Southie", so in response I started calling him "Blackie", which of course made me a "racist" in his judgment. :lmao2:

So then you are now denying you are a racist????:lmao2:

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 11:18 AM
:lmao2: :thumbsup:

I have not gone through the whole thread again but as to RG...... he made his own choices.........

he even came back & did essentially the same things he did before...

If posting here makes him so upset, why would he want to come here??Obviously, Bill, he doesn't. So, he's gone.

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:20 AM
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=474681

Oops.


Your link does not seem to work.............????

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:24 AM
DDP is probably the best tasting diet soda, along with diet Orange Crush. :D

My latest favorite is Fresca.


Oh, I can't stand Fresca...... ALthough I have not tried it since a kid..:o

Have you tried Dt A&W rootbeer??

It is really good......... I bought a 12 of reg & a 12 of dt... I was drinking what I thought was a Dt & as I tasted it (for the first time) I said to myself, damn I got the reg & not the Dt by accident..........

About half way down the can I noticed I did actually have the dt rootbeer....

It is prob the only dt soda I could actually say I like......

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:26 AM
So far, it appears to be the slamee. :D

he has no game....

That is why he never stay around very long..........

Most of the luberals here could be totally wrong & still hand him his ass in a debate......:lmao2: :lmao2:

MintJulep
11-10-2010, 11:28 AM
Oh, I can't stand Fresca...... ALthough I have not tried it since a kid..:o

Have you tried Dt A&W rootbeer??

It is really good......... I bought a 12 of reg & a 12 of dt... I was drinking what I thought was a Dt & as I tasted it (for the first time) I said to myself, damn I got the reg & not the Dt by accident..........

About half way down the can I noticed I did actually have the dt rootbeer....

It is prob the only dt soda I could actually say I like......No, I haven't but I'll have to try it. Thanks! :)

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 11:33 AM
he has no game....

That is why he never stay around very long..........

Most of the luberals here could be totally wrong & still hand him his ass in a debate......:lmao2: :lmao2:

:0)

I know .. I have pieces of his ass laying all around my computer .. and a long history of putting the cyber-boot up what ass he has left.

... now he's off whining to mommy after just a few posts.

I feel bad ..

.. that he didn't stick around so I could have more fun playing with him.

:lmao2: :lmao2:

Truckman
11-10-2010, 11:45 AM
No, I haven't but I'll have to try it. Thanks! :)
Yep, good stuff...Now if I could only find a good diet grape soda...Whatever happened to Grapette?...And NuGrape?...:D ...Ben

slowhand
11-10-2010, 12:29 PM
Let me be more specific. I didn't have a problem with you giving me a time out. But SHE should have gotten one also. SHE was the one who kept on and on reposting it. I had deleted the post shortly after I made it. That was appropriate.
She brought that post on by harassment. She does that sort of thing for sport. I don't let her get to me anymore.
She went on a crusade to disrupt threads by going on and on about it. After you told her not to post it anymore, she continued to refer to it.

She should have gotten a time out for that.
That is my opinion.

She is a troll. A TROLL. You know it. She should have stayed banned.

Not for nothing, but she got banned alot longer for alot less..What you said to her was dispicable, and she threw it back in your face numerous times to address your own hypocrisy

She is not a troll, get that through your head..She is very passionate about her principles and beliefs, and she is an aggressive debater..Maybe you cant handle that..That is a problem that you've got..Just because you dont see eye to eye on issues with someone, doesn't make them a troll

MarkMiller
11-10-2010, 01:14 PM
How can I be more clear?

1. How many moderators on this board?
2. How many are liberal?
3. How many are conservative?
Let me be clear. The ideal of adding another moderator has been made by Maby and dismissed by the members as unneccisary as we seem to be able to moderate ourselves for the most part.....with some slight nudging now and then....and the occasional shove in the right direction. A number of conservatives have been nominated as well as a number of liberals all declined (or almost all) so no new moderator was added.

MarkMiller
11-10-2010, 01:16 PM
Oh look, a liberal patting a liberal on the back.
You certainly have a bigoted probelm with liberals. Is it just Liberals or anyone who doesn't believe in you way of life and the god you prey to?

MintJulep
11-10-2010, 01:51 PM
Not for nothing, but she got banned alot longer for alot less..What you said to her was dispicable, and she threw it back in your face numerous times to address your own hypocrisy

She is not a troll, get that through your head..She is very passionate about her principles and beliefs, and she is an aggressive debater..Maybe you cant handle that..That is a problem that you've got..Just because you dont see eye to eye on issues with someone, doesn't make them a trollYo Slow. Shouldn't you be pimpin' the graveyard for your Nazi Massas with the other battered wife bootlickers? :lmao2::lmao2:

Having no morals clearly goes hand-in-hand with no pride or self-respect. LOL

Cookie
11-10-2010, 01:57 PM
I agree 100%. Until someone has been around a bunch of thin-skinned control freaks with a ban button, one doesn't know how much to appreciate him.


You bet. This place is heaven comparatively speaking.
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Cookie
11-10-2010, 02:02 PM
DDP is probably the best tasting diet soda, along with diet Orange Crush. :D

My latest favorite is Fresca.

Really? Fresca has been around since the 60's. Does it still have that grapefruity taste?
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MintJulep
11-10-2010, 02:06 PM
Really? Fresca has been around since the 60's. Does it still have that grapefruity taste?I had a long time ago and forgot it about, and I bought some the other day and really loved it. It's more of a lemon-lime taste to me, but refreshing.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 03:55 PM
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Told you

Its ONLY value to a message board is to engage in 8th grade ignorant bumper-sticker illogic. That's its only "value."

I think it to be sub-human .. but it will keep on posting to me anyway

... keep watching :0)

Too bad you're afraid to debate.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 03:58 PM
I have a couple questions............ As long as you been here were you ever banned & by who??

When have you ever bested anyone here ever?? left or right??

You got no game, never did........... You get your ass handed to you time & again & go back home crying & licking your wounds.........

So rather than talk the talk, why don't you start some threads & walk the walk..........

Cya in your threads.............:thumbsup:

I have a couple questions....... When have I ever "got my ass handed to me"? When have I ever "gone back crying and licking my wounds"?

Methinks you are projecting. :)

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 04:00 PM
So then you are now denying you are a racist????:lmao2:
Yes. In fact I challenge you to prove otherwise. So far BAC has run from this challenge, and I suspect that you will too.

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 04:02 PM
Not for nothing, but she got banned alot longer for alot less..What you said to her was dispicable, and she threw it back in your face numerous times to address your own hypocrisy

She is not a troll, get that through your head..She is very passionate about her principles and beliefs, and she is an aggressive debater..Maybe you cant handle that..That is a problem that you've got..Just because you dont see eye to eye on issues with someone, doesn't make them a trollShe spends very little time debating. Most of it is spent trolling, baiting, and insulting. She contributes very little to this site.
Nice of you to defend her though, Willard.

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 04:05 PM
I have a couple questions....... When have I ever "got my ass handed to me"? When have I ever "gone back crying and licking my wounds"?

Methinks you are projecting. :)


Perhaps I am............ Perhaps I am not.............. It does not matter much what happened before so lets just start fresh & go from here.....:thumbsup:

They say everything comes out in the wash.......

So, you have fun....... :D

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 04:15 PM
You certainly have a bigoted probelm with liberals. Is it just Liberals or anyone who doesn't believe in you way of life and the god you prey to?With all due respect, Mark, "bigoted" doesn't apply.

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 04:21 PM
With all due respect, Mark, "bigoted" doesn't apply.

Why not?

Definition of BIGOT

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

It does not have to only apply in reference to ethnicity or race.

A number of people around here can legitimately be called "bigots".............. for their intolerant views. :dunno:

.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 04:25 PM
Perhaps I am............ Perhaps I am not.............. It does not matter much what happened before so lets just start fresh & go from here.....:thumbsup:

They say everything comes out in the wash.......

So, you have fun....... :D

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way with me. You made specific accusations, so now provide basis or apologize.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 04:26 PM
Why not?



It does not have to only apply in reference to ethnicity or race.

A number of people around here can legitimately be called "bigots".............. for their intolerant views. :dunno:

.By that definition then yes, I am a bigot against liberals.

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 04:27 PM
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way with me. You made specific accusations, so now provide basis or apologize.

OR WHAT EXACTLY???:hi:

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 04:31 PM
OR WHAT EXACTLY???:hi:Or you lose cred.

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 04:40 PM
Or you lose cred.


Oh, OK.......... I think I have enough to spare.........

& how much do you think you have here???

Long before I got here you were here & anyone can go lurk in the archives & see where Moby, Linksters & the others tossed you back & fourth like a ^$^$%%# after the football game.....:lmao2:

You had no game then & you don't now..........

Do you have another account here??

We have two ppl claiming to be the southern man....... ???

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Too bad you're afraid to debate.

I debate posters all the time .. even posters who I don't agree with.

Your problem is that you're not a mature poster. You only post for chaos.

I have no desire to debate anyone who doesn't know how to post respectfully .. and I have NO DESIRE to post respectfully to someone who uses terms like "nigger" .. You do use such terms, do you not?

Knowing that you do, why in the fuck do you think I would show you any respect whatsoever?

HERE'S THE ANSWER .. I DON'T FUCKING LIKE YOU .. I THINK YOU'RE A NASTY AND IGNORANT THING.

THUS, the answer is for you and I to avoid each other if for nothing more than for the sake of civility on this board .. something else you never think about.

I'm good with that .. how about you?

By the way, stop sending me private messages girlfriend .. NO, I do not want to go out with you.

Trinnity
11-10-2010, 05:28 PM
Why not?



It does not have to only apply in reference to ethnicity or race.

A number of people around here can legitimately be called "bigots".............. for their intolerant views. :dunno:

.Another example of overplaying perceived victim-hood.

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 05:42 PM
Another example of overplaying perceived victim-hood.

No, actually it is another example of trying to make a slam dunk....and catching nothing but air in front of the rim. ;)

How embarrassing. :doh:

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Trinnity
11-10-2010, 05:46 PM
And what game are you playing, hypocrite. I don't see you taking the high ground on this forum. :lmao2:

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 06:05 PM
And what game are you playing, hypocrite. I don't see you taking the high ground on this forum.


I believe scrutiny of my posts, will make it very clear that I come nowhere near displaying the hate, vitriol and downright viciousness of yourself.

Maybe I just need more practice? :D

I was not referring to you, little Caesar.
Hawk now has to depend on BAC and AK to advocate for him.
Well. That ^ shut 'em up. Ran like rats. Figures.
She hasn't been around lately. Somebody must have dropped a house on her - or a bucket of water. :lmao2:



These are just going back a couple of days.

It would be pretty easy to paint the whole picture............ by going back further.


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Trinnity
11-10-2010, 06:46 PM
I believe scrutiny of my posts, will make it very clear that I come nowhere near displaying the hate, vitriol and downright viciousness of yourself.I have a longstanding relationship with the regulars. They give as good as they get.
We battle, but I still respect most of them.
You came along recently. They don't need your help. Talk to the hand. :talktothehand:

I let up on you for the truce. That we me extending good will.
You are on the attack too much for a truce.
So much for that. :hi:

AK Gandy
11-10-2010, 07:00 PM
I have a longstanding relationship with the regulars. They give as good as they get.
We battle, but I still respect most of them.
You came along recently. They don't need your help. Talk to the hand.

I let up on you for the truce. That we me extending good will.
You are on the attack too much for a truce.
So much for that.
Well, let's look at what happened right here in this thread.

I posted this.......Why not?

It does not have to only apply in reference to ethnicity or race.

A number of people around here can legitimately be called "bigots".............. for their intolerant views. .......which was generic and uses no name(s).

If I had wanted to make it about you, I would have just said so.

Is it my fault you saw yourself in it and took umbrage?





Then your response was.......Another example of overplaying perceived victim-hood.........which was a direct shot at me.





Now tell me again about........ "You are on the attack too much for a truce."

:doh:


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2T
11-10-2010, 07:28 PM
Another example of overplaying perceived victim-hood.


yeah never mind the definition of a word... :lmao2:

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:14 PM
Oh, OK.......... I think I have enough to spare.........

& how much do you think you have here???

Long before I got here you were here & anyone can go lurk in the archives & see where Moby, Linksters & the others tossed you back & fourth like a ^$^$%%# after the football game.....:lmao2:

You had no game then & you don't now..........

Do you have another account here??

We have two ppl claiming to be the southern man....... ???

I guess the reason that I have no idea what you are talking about is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Southern Man
11-10-2010, 09:18 PM
I debate posters all the time .. even posters who I don't agree with.

...I have NO DESIRE to post respectfully to someone who uses terms like "nigger" ....

Wow imagine debating someone that you disagree with.:crazzy:

I challenge you to show where I have used that word, unless in a quote from someone else. Don't pussy out like you did at the other forum.

MarkMiller
11-10-2010, 09:54 PM
With all due respect, Mark, "bigoted" doesn't apply.
Yes, it does and I went no further then with the dems but asked if it went further and he said it did not. I give him some credit for being honest.

BlackAsCoal
11-10-2010, 10:32 PM
Wow imagine debating someone that you disagree with.:crazzy:

I challenge you to show where I have used that word, unless in a quote from someone else. Don't pussy out like you did at the other forum.

:0)

A. I'm not digging through threads on any site looking for your ignorance.
B. Fuck you and your challenge.
C. Stop sending me PM's motherfucker .. I don't read them

Are you a stalker?

It seems so very important to you that I talk to you .. even though you know I think you're a piece of shit. It's so important, that when I ignore you, you're so desperate that you send me private messages.

What the fuck is that?

What the fuck are you? Obviously you are not a fully matured man. Men don't stalk other men .. especially men who hate them.

Go away asshole

Udo Dirkschneider
11-10-2010, 10:35 PM
Somebody hit a nerve...

MintJulep
11-10-2010, 10:59 PM
:0)

A. I'm not digging through threads on any site looking for your ignorance.
B. Fuck you and your challenge.
C. Stop sending me PM's motherfucker .. I don't read them

Are you a stalker?

It seems so very important to you that I talk to you .. even though you know I think you're a piece of shit. It's so important, that when I ignore you, you're so desperate that you send me private messages.

What the fuck is that?

What the fuck are you? Obviously you are not a fully matured man. Men don't stalk other men .. especially men who hate them.

Go away asshole :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

BAC throws down, JACK.

Damn that was funny.

Bill Cosby
11-10-2010, 11:40 PM
I guess the reason that I have no idea what you are talking about is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Old men forget lots of stuff in three years......

You, like everyone else can go lurk in the archives & see what went down......:thumbsup:

You can start anew or take up were you left off........ :thumbsup:

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 08:35 AM
Old men forget lots of stuff in three years......

You, like everyone else can go lurk in the archives & see what went down......:thumbsup:

You can start anew or take up were you left off........ :thumbsup: I think you have me confused with this guy:

http://www.dcjunkies.com/member.php?u=1932

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 08:37 AM
A. I'm not digging through threads on any site looking for your ignorance.
B. Fuck you and your challenge.
C. Stop sending me PM's motherfucker .. I don't read them



a. Because you know that you are wrong.
b. See "a" above.
c. Liar. You responded.

BlackAsCoal
11-11-2010, 09:49 AM
a. Because you know that you are wrong.
b. See "a" above.
c. Liar. You responded.

Listen moron .. I responded to one telling you to fuck off, I think you're a piece of shit .. yet that didn't stop you.

You are the absolute best example there is of why moderators and administrators have to ban posters from their boards. You make a mockery of those who jumped on Moby for doing what he thought was in the best interests of civility here.

The question of whether Moby was right or not has been answered.

thank you

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 10:11 AM
Listen moron .. I responded to one telling you to fuck off, I think you're a piece of shit .. yet that didn't stop you.

You are the absolute best example there is of why moderators and administrators have to ban posters from their boards. You make a mockery of those who jumped on Moby for doing what he thought was in the best interests of civility here.

The question of whether Moby was right or not has been answered.

thank you

Your method of dealing with posters who call you to the mat and best you at debate is to call them racist or tell them how much you hate them. When you can't back up your accusation then you want a moderator to step in and ban me. :lmao2:

BlackAsCoal
11-11-2010, 11:01 AM
Your method of dealing with posters who call you to the mat and best you at debate is to call them racist or tell them how much you hate them. When you can't back up your accusation then you want a moderator to step in and ban me. :lmao2:

I don't give a damn whether you get banned or not .. don't care if you live to the end of this sentence. :)

"Call me to the mat"

:lmao2:

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 11:03 AM
I don't give a damn whether you get banned or not .. don't care if you live to the end of this sentence. :)

"Call me to the mat"

:lmao2:

Yes, I've called you to the mat before, just like I'm doing now. You will pussy-out now just like you did before.

Prove your accusation that I am a racist. :)

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 12:19 PM
Your method of dealing with posters who call you to the mat and best you at debate is to call them racist or tell them how much you hate them. When you can't back up your accusation then you want a moderator to step in and ban me. :lmao2:

It seems you & BAC have some history from other sites which I hope you can leave @ those other sites.... :thumbsup:

You have not been back to DCJ in several years & there is another poster w/ the same name so pls forgive any confusion that may have occurred as a result..........

This is just a message board & we all come here to speak our minds, have a little fun & be entertained......... I hope that is why you are here as well..:D

We like to let ppl run their game as they see fit, w/in the simple rules we have here... But there is a lot of ppl out there on a mission, to slay the libs, to kill the neo-cons & wracist, war mongers, hippie crusades, vendettas blah blah blah, & IMHO they would be better off doing that somewhere else..

Personally my goal is to have a fun place were ppl of various views & opinions can come & share their thoughts w/out being harassed etc.......

I think that is a goal shared by a majority of the posters here & it is to our mutual benifit......

So again, welcome aboard/welcome back.......:banana:

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 12:20 PM
It seems you & BAC have some history from other sites which I hope you can leave @ those other sites.... :thumbsup:

You have not been back to DCJ in several years & there is another poster w/ the same name so pls forgive any confusion that may have occurred as a result..........

This is just a message board & we all come here to speak our minds, have a little fun & be entertained......... I hope that is why you are here as well..:D

We like to let ppl run their game as they see fit, w/in the simple rules we have here... But there is a lot of ppl out there on a mission, to slay the libs, to kill the neo-cons & wracist, war mongers, hippie crusades, vendettas blah blah blah, & IMHO they would be better off doing that somewhere else..

Personally my goal is to have a fun place were ppl of various views & opinions can come & share their thoughts w/out being harassed etc.......

I think that is a goal shared by a majority of the posters here & it is to our mutual benifit......

So again, welcome aboard/welcome back.......:banana:
I am the way I am. This is a political discussion board and by its nature politics is confrontational. I am right and lefties are wrong- there is not a lot of room for compromises.

I have no problem with folks who disagree with me as long as they are intellectually honest about it. And there is no animosity unless my debate opponent is a hateful asshole. With regards to BAC, his method of dealing with a debater who doesn't agree with his views is to accuse them of being racist. That's about as hateful a thing an asshole can do. I've called him out on that here as well as other boards, and will continue to do so until he recants.

Moby
11-11-2010, 12:25 PM
Listen moron .. I responded to one telling you to fuck off, I think you're a piece of shit .. yet that didn't stop you.

You are the absolute best example there is of why moderators and administrators have to ban posters from their boards. You make a mockery of those who jumped on Moby for doing what he thought was in the best interests of civility here.

The question of whether Moby was right or not has been answered.

thank you
Don't let this loser get under your skin. He was posting on another board how he likes to get people pissed off over here.

Is anyone with such low self esteem and such a pathetic life worth getting upset about?

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 12:54 PM
I am the way I am. This is a political discussion board and by its nature politics is confrontational. I am right and lefties are wrong- there is not a lot of room for compromises.

Politics is confrontational........lol Well it is good then that you are just another poster & not a politician......:lmao2:

Politics & other topics can get ppl stirred up, that is fine, it does not have to be personal........

I would say some of the ppl I disagree w/ here the most I am probably the closest to on a personal level....... We disagree, a lot, we say our peace & agree to disagree..... That does not make us enemies........

I respect their opinions & they mine, w/out agreeing.... It is refreshing to see things from others perspectives & angels on issues that you don't get from circle jerk boards & the mutual admiration societies that many boards evolve into........

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 02:07 PM
Don't let this loser get under your skin. He was posting on another board how he likes to get people pissed off over here.

Is anyone with such low self esteem and such a pathetic life worth getting upset about?

Awww... You're getting pissed because your ideas don't work? :(

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 02:08 PM
Politics is confrontational........lol Well it is good then that you are just another poster & not a politician......:lmao2:

Politics & other topics can get ppl stirred up, that is fine, it does not have to be personal........

I would say some of the ppl I disagree w/ here the most I am probably the closest to on a personal level....... We disagree, a lot, we say our peace & agree to disagree..... That does not make us enemies........

I respect their opinions & they mine, w/out agreeing.... It is refreshing to see things from others perspectives & angels on issues that you don't get from circle jerk boards & the mutual admiration societies that many boards evolve into........


I respect your intellectually honest opinion as well. As of yet though, I haven't seen it.

MarkMiller
11-11-2010, 02:18 PM
I am the way I am. This is a political discussion board and by its nature politics is confrontational. I am right and lefties are wrong- there is not a lot of room for compromises.

I have no problem with folks who disagree with me as long as they are intellectually honest about it. And there is no animosity unless my debate opponent is a hateful asshole. With regards to BAC, his method of dealing with a debater who doesn't agree with his views is to accuse them of being racist. That's about as hateful a thing an asshole can do. I've called him out on that here as well as other boards, and will continue to do so until he recants.

Respectfully, Sir Moby and Mods....but I think we have a problem here.

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 02:23 PM
Respectfully, Sir Moby and Mods....but I think we have a problem here.


He is ok, lets see how smart he is...

Lets see if he can adjust & run his game w/in this rigged, legalistic liberal prison for which he voluntary subjects himself....... :lmao2:

Should prove entertaining anyway...........:thumbsup:

MarkMiller
11-11-2010, 02:31 PM
He is ok, lets see how smart he is...

Lets see if he can adjust & run his game w/in this rigged, legalistic liberal prison for which he voluntary subjects himself....... :lmao2:

Should prove entertaining anyway...........:thumbsup:
rigged, legalistic liberal prison...:lmao2: :lmao2:

AK Gandy
11-11-2010, 02:54 PM
He is ok, lets see how smart he is...

Lets see if he can adjust & run his game w/in this rigged, legalistic liberal prison for which he voluntary subjects himself.......

Should prove entertaining anyway...........:thumbsup:

Ya damn jack-booted mods. :mad:


:D


:lmao2:



.

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 02:56 PM
He is ok, lets see how smart he is...

Lets see if he can adjust & run his game w/in this rigged, legalistic liberal prison for which he voluntary subjects himself....... :lmao2:

Should prove entertaining anyway...........:thumbsup:

Too bad you libtards can't debate even handed....

MarkMiller
11-11-2010, 03:49 PM
Too bad you libtards can't debate even handed....
Sir, with all due respect you have announced that you cannot or will not debate Liberals by proclaiming that your frame of mind is closed. You are right and all Liberals are wrong. Who wants to debate with a predetermined poster? But to me your announcement that you intend to hound a member here until they submit to your will is unacceptable. You've admitted to calling out a member here on several other boards and now you are here to simply make his membership uncomfortable and hinder is use of the board.

I think that's a problem.

MintJulep
11-11-2010, 03:50 PM
With regards to BAC, his method of dealing with a debater who doesn't agree with his views is to accuse them of being racist. That's about as hateful a thing an asshole can do. I've called him out on that here as well as other boards, and will continue to do so until he recants.
Are you sure this is the same person? I've known BAC a while and we don't agree at all, but he has never called me any of those things.

MintJulep
11-11-2010, 04:05 PM
Sir, with all due respect you have announced that you cannot or will not debate Liberals by proclaiming that your frame of mind is closed. You are right and all Liberals are wrong. Who wants to debate with a predetermined poster? But to me your announcement that you intend to hound a member here until they submit to your will is unacceptable. You've admitted to calling out a member here on several other boards and now you are here to simply make his membership uncomfortable and hinder is use of the board.

I think that's a problem.Neither of them said anything that warrants banning. I've known BAC a while and he is no wilting violet. They can work it out themselves. If you want bannings and babysitters, please go hang out at Politicalgraveyard. No need to turn this site into one as shitty and boring as that one.

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 04:29 PM
Are you sure this is the same person? I've known BAC a while and we don't agree at all, but he has never called me any of those things.


I think our new friend has an old axe he thinks he needs to grind.......

Hopefully he can move beyond all those old ghosts that haunt him....:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 04:46 PM
Too bad you libtards can't debate even handed....


I bet you say that @ all the boards you visit.... AAhhhh we just not fair are we...:lmao2:

I already told you, it will be what you make it.........

Well I am not sure what you mean by even handed but do you want me to lay out some ground rules just for you??

We don't know you from shit, BAC is a well respected member here & is liked by almost everybody both left & right..... So if you are looking for someone to side w/ you or give you a shoulder to cry on I think you are probably sniveling in the wrong place........

I offered you my best advice, you do whats best for you, & we will do the same......... :thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 04:49 PM
Sir, with all due respect you have announced that you cannot or will not debate Liberals by proclaiming that your frame of mind is closed. You are right and all Liberals are wrong. Who wants to debate with a predetermined poster? But to me your announcement that you intend to hound a member here until they submit to your will is unacceptable. You've admitted to calling out a member here on several other boards and now you are here to simply make his membership uncomfortable and hinder is use of the board.

I think that's a problem.

Great points & advice Mark......... He should pay-pal you a tutoring fee... :thumbsup:

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 06:17 PM
Sir, with all due respect you have announced that you cannot or will not debate Liberals by proclaiming that your frame of mind is closed. You are right and all Liberals are wrong. Who wants to debate with a predetermined poster? But to me your announcement that you intend to hound a member here until they submit to your will is unacceptable. You've admitted to calling out a member here on several other boards and now you are here to simply make his membership uncomfortable and hinder is use of the board.

I think that's a problem.

People who have fixed their positions debate all the time. Liberals never admit they are wrong so I don't see what the problem is. I debate them because its fun to watch them back themselves into a corner and then do the predictable: spin, ignore you, or insult you. Either way its a win for me. :D

With regards to calling out BlackasCoal, he called me a racist, which in today's society is a heinous insult. He did it obviously to squelch debate since his positions are so weak. If he's uncomfortable reading my posts then I suggest that he ignore me. But that won't prevent me from challenging him when I choose to. It doesn't hinder his use of the board in any way unless he chooses to let it.

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 06:23 PM
Are you sure this is the same person? I've known BAC a while and we don't agree at all, but he has never called me any of those things.

Are you kidding? It's his modus operandi. Just in the last few days:

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=270534&postcount=136

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=267180&postcount=14

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=266654&postcount=94

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=263641&postcount=78

2T
11-11-2010, 06:26 PM
I always thought BAC was a woman :confused:

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 06:26 PM
I bet you say that @ all the boards you visit.... AAhhhh we just not fair are we...:lmao2:

I already told you, it will be what you make it.........

Well I am not sure what you mean by even handed but do you want me to lay out some ground rules just for you??

We don't know you from shit, BAC is a well respected member here & is liked by almost everybody both left & right..... So if you are looking for someone to side w/ you or give you a shoulder to cry on I think you are probably sniveling in the wrong place........

I offered you my best advice, you do whats best for you, & we will do the same......... :thumbsup:

For someone who claims not to know what I mean by "even handed" you sure make plenty of assumptions of what it means.

I don't give a shit about who sides with whom or who's respected and whose not. All I give a shit about is exposing the truth and having a little fun at the expense of those who hate the truth...

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 06:27 PM
I always thought BAC was a woman :confused: STOP degrading women like that. :D

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 06:56 PM
I don't give a shit about who sides with whom or who's respected and whose not. All I give a shit about is exposing the truth and having a little fun at the expense of those who hate the truth...

So is that your mission statement??

& the reason we are going to let you carry on your hate filled jihad here is what again??

Let me give you a friendly reminder here son, you are a guest here...... This isn't the fuckin park........ You wanna go on a mission, start there.

Get you a soap box, a bible, or newts old book & go to slaying the haters of truth there........
http://lastprice.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/soapbox.jpg

Or you can go back to your fan base @ just plain politics.......... Seems you are about as popular there as you are here........:lmao2:

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 07:03 PM
Oh look, "appeal to ridicule" and a threat to abuse your moderator privileges.

This won't be the first time that board rules have been "interpreted" differently for The Southern Man because he made a fool out a moderator. :D

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Oh look, "appeal to ridicule" and a threat to abuse your moderator privileges.
:D

& I am doing that how again??

By telling you, you are not going to come here & harass members of the board??? :lmao2:

Again if you don't like it tuff shit............. That is the deal.........

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 07:11 PM
# No personal attacks.
# No racial, gender, ethnic or sexual orientation slurs.
# No posting personal information of others on the board (IE: SS numbers, phone numbers, addresses, etc.)
# No threatening statements against another board member or personal attacks against a member's family.
# No criminal accusations against others that have not been supported or are not being pursued in US court.
# No cutting and pasting from another source without posting a link to that source.
# No multiple nick names.
# No spamming the board.
# No bumping your own threads.
# No pornographic material.

Any clarification involves basic common sense.
Last edited by Smurf-Herder : 05-08-2010 at 07:46 AM. http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=117566&postcount=1

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 07:13 PM
Based on the first and fourth points you'll need to ban BAC for calling me a racist as well as my mother. :D

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 07:15 PM
Unless of course calling someone a racist is not a personal attack but demanding that the accuser back up his claim, apologize or STFU is...

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 07:15 PM
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=117566&postcount=1

Hopefully you read them...........

For your edification suggested reading : The Hate, Harassment and Insults
(http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=14481)

Pls take the time to study & see where your jihad fits in there........ Enjoy

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 07:18 PM
Hopefully you read them...........

For your edification suggested reading : The Hate, Harassment and Insults
(http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=14481)

Pls take the time to study & see where your jihad fits in there........ Enjoy How is that 'a clarification that involves common sense'? :disbelief:

Look, if you want to ban me go ahead. It will just reinforce what I already know about liberals who find themselves in a position of authority...

Bill Cosby
11-11-2010, 07:24 PM
How is that 'a clarification that involves common sense'? :disbelief:

Look, if you want to ban me go ahead. It will just reinforce what I already know about liberals who find themselves in a position of authority...

If I wanted to do that I would have done so a couple hours ago........

I have said all I have to say on it........

MarkMiller
11-11-2010, 07:31 PM
Neither of them said anything that warrants banning. I've known BAC a while and he is no wilting violet. They can work it out themselves. If you want bannings and babysitters, please go hang out at Politicalgraveyard. No need to turn this site into one as shitty and boring as that one.
Why do you think anyone should consider banning. No need to take a leap I never mentioned. If you want anarchy find another board. We self moderate as well here....or have you forgotten that so soon. Please consider your own war against politcalgroove as a constsant irritant to many and you jumping down people thoats at the mere mention of a problem as being simply dumb.

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 07:33 PM
If I wanted to do that I would have done so a couple hours ago........

I have said all I have to say on it........
:p :taunt: :p

Mike D.
11-11-2010, 07:34 PM
Sir, with all due respect you have announced that you cannot or will not debate Liberals by proclaiming that your frame of mind is closed. You are right and all Liberals are wrong. Who wants to debate with a predetermined poster? But to me your announcement that you intend to hound a member here until they submit to your will is unacceptable. You've admitted to calling out a member here on several other boards and now you are here to simply make his membership uncomfortable and hinder is use of the board.

I think that's a problem.

That's rich coming from someone who went on a completely unjustified, hypocritical, and not to mention an accusatory racist rant against me when I posted a joke pic in the "Shooting the Shit" thread showing Obama with a white face and the caption beneath reading, "Still hate him? Me, too. So you aren't a racist."

MarkMiller
11-11-2010, 07:43 PM
People who have fixed their positions debate all the time. No, they argue. There is a difference.

Liberals never admit they are wrong so I don't see what the problem is. I debate them because its fun to watch them back themselves into a corner and then do the predictable: spin, ignore you, or insult you. Either way its a win for me. :D Yeah.....that's called disruption. If you are going to participate but have predetermined that Liberals never win an argument, that may be your own problem....but pushing that sort of agenda on a mixed board is a powder keg waiting to be lit.

With regards to calling out BlackasCoal, he called me a racist, which in today's society is a heinous insult. He did it obviously to squelch debate since his positions are so weak. If he's uncomfortable reading my posts then I suggest that he ignore me. But that won't prevent me from challenging him when I choose to. It doesn't hinder his use of the board in any way unless he chooses to let it. By bringing this here you now ask everyone present to weigh whether or not you are a racist. SO far you are not disproving that point. I am telling you as a member here I HAVE THE RIGHT to a harrassment free board as much as Black As Coal. If you continue to make unwanted contact and the members here see it and you admit to it, we have the right to ask you to NOT disrupt this board.

MarkMiller
11-11-2010, 07:46 PM
That's rich coming from someone who went on a completely unjustified, hypocritical, and not to mention an accusatory racist rant against me when I posted a joke pic in the "Shooting the Shit" thread showing Obama with a white face and the caption beneath reading, "Still hate him? Me, too. So you aren't a racist."
LOL! Your rant was pretty bad and if you want to call me racist I would like to see you justify it. Otherwise you are the one who is the racist. See how that works. Accusations are so easy. How can I be a racist against you...I don't know your race. You made some pretty wacko posts though dude...so.....

MintJulep
11-11-2010, 08:03 PM
Why do you think anyone should consider banning. No need to take a leap I never mentioned. If you want anarchy find another board. We self moderate as well here....or have you forgotten that so soon. Please consider your own war against politcalgroove as a constsnt irritant to many and you jumping down people thoats at the mere mention of a problem as being simply dumb.I wasn't jumping down anyone's throat. The only problems on this board have been from the thin-skinned babies from the graveyard. That entire Hate, Harassment thread stemmed from a handful of delicate crybabies from there who mentally crumble at every opposing opinion. We don't need that here. Hopefully they are gone and in their element. Anyone who falls apart over words on a screen should be on a knitting/gardening/mental health board, not a political one.

Southern Man
11-11-2010, 08:04 PM
Looks like Mark has a hair across his ass....

MintJulep
11-11-2010, 08:08 PM
No, they argue. There is a difference.

Yeah.....that's called disruption. If you are going to participate but have predetermined that Liberals never win an argument, that may be your own problem....but pushing that sort of agenda on a mixed board is a powder keg waiting to be lit.

By bringing this here you now ask everyone present to weigh whether or not you are a racist. SO far you are not disproving that point. I am telling you as a member here I HAVE THE RIGHT to a harrassment free board as much as Black As Coal. If you continue to make unwanted contact and the members here see it and you admit to it, we have the right to ask you to NOT disrupt this board.There are PLENTY of people here who have 'pre-determined' notions about their political opponents and that is not disruption, that is not harrassment.

This is between BAC and SM and I don't see either of them falling apart over this.

This is not politicalgraveyard.com.............!